# Bobby Jindal. you lying sack of \[disgusting bodily waste\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 25, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322 "2009-02-25T04:20:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/221 "2009-02-27T04:18:26Z")
Going with the global herd. Everybody’s doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/222 "2009-02-27T04:54:43Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > And, heck, if you want to go way back, the Republicans controlled Congress and/or the White House for all but two years from Reagan’s inauguration to Obama’s. In fact, until Reagan’s second midterm, the Senate was also controlled by Republicans, and there were quite a few Dixiecrats in both chambers who deferred to Reagan. He really gets a lot more credit for negotiating with a ‘Democrat Congress’ than he deserves. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/223 "2009-02-27T05:22:03Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > In fact, until Reagan’s second midterm, the Senate was also controlled by Republicans, and there were quite a few Dixiecrats in both chambers who deferred to Reagan. He really gets a lot more credit for negotiating with a ‘Democrat Congress’ than he deserves. There used to be somewhat of a “gentleman’s agreement” in Congress that when a new President took office the Congress went along with and voted in the budget that the new President submitted. A Democratic Congress approved Reagan’s radical budget proposal. The Republicans had trouble stomaching that after the embarrassment of the Reagan budget fiascoes that ran up the national debt to unforeseeable levels. When Clinton submitted his budget it passed by one (1) vote because the 'Pubs didn’t want to raise taxes. I watched the vote and it was a cliffhanger. As we all saw, the Clinton budgets only led to a balanced budget that the country hadn’t seen since the Johnson years. What a calamity! Eight years of relative peace and prosperity! The horror! Of course we’ve all seen the insanity of GWB’s economic policies. They cook the books and still produce record deficits by any definition. Now the 'Pubs are acting like crybaby’s because there aren’t enough tax cuts for the wealthy. When the next Webster dictionary comes out the definition of “failure” and “hypocrisy” should be accompanied by the picture of the Republican elephant logo. (I don’t want to disparage elephants.) ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/224 "2009-02-27T14:13:05Z")
> [@Spartydog](#): > > As we all saw, the Clinton budgets only led to a balanced budget that the country hadn’t seen since the Johnson years. What a calamity! Eight years of relative peace and prosperity! The horror! In fairness, this is inaccurate. Clinton’s original budget reduced the deficit for a few years with a projection for rising deficits in the late 90s. The GOP took over in 1995 with a demand for a balanced budget by 2002. Clinton counted with a program to balance the budget by 2005. (As an aside here, we can see how ridiculous these long term plans are. Look how different 2002 and 2005 were when they arrived as opposed to their projections in 1995) The GOP “won” the negotiations and came up with a compromise plan to balance the budget by 2002. The compromise was a farce. The deficits in the plan increased until the year 2000 with huge cuts factored in the year 2001 and 2002 (cuts which would be made after Clinton left office by the next President). It was a sham, and everyone knew it. So what happened? The budget was balanced in 1997. By having a Congress and a President talking about a balanced budget, along with the rise in Dot Com businesses, the economy boomed. That is to the praises of a Dem President who didn’t go crazy with spending, and a GOP Congress who insisted on a balanced budget. But it was mostly dumb luck. Neither side had the courage to really plan on a balanced budget. This idea that Clinton did it all is not consistent with the facts.. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/225 "2009-02-27T14:26:15Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Neither side had the courage to really plan on a balanced budget. This idea that Clinton did it all is not consistent with the facts.. Maybe this thread will be easier on you if you can just point out a couple cites here on the SDMB where you were so very concerned about fiscal responsibility and ballooning deficits between 2001 and 2008? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/226 "2009-02-27T15:31:15Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > In fairness, this is inaccurate…Neither side had the courage to really plan on a balanced budget. This idea that Clinton did it all is not consistent with the facts.. What is accurate is to say that every year of Clinton’s presidency, the deficit gap shrank from the preceding year, whether he had a Democratic congress or Republican congress to work with. It shrank until it was actually a surplus. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/227 "2009-02-27T15:34:24Z")
This “surplus” of which you speak? These words are not known amongst my people. What is this thing, this “surplus”? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/228 "2009-02-27T15:59:27Z")
> [@bup](#): > > What is accurate is to say that every year of Clinton’s presidency, the deficit gap shrank from the preceding year, whether he had a Democratic congress or Republican congress to work with. It shrank until it was actually a surplus. Perhaps, but look at how different 2002 and 2005 were when they arrived, in contrast to their projections. I mean, they just “arrived” and they were not what was expected. Or course, nothing happened between 1995 and then to influence their outcome. I hope that 2010 just falls from the sky with dollars flowing from people’s pockets! It’s kind of like how the Iraq War just happened to Bush. Fell right in his lap. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/229 "2009-02-27T16:01:59Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > If you put it that way, it’s 10 out of the last 10 years. The Republicans controlled Congress in 1998. They took control in 1994, actually. So, really, 14 out of the last 14 years they controlled Congress and/or the White House. This is stupid way to measure. In recent history. The republicans owned the gov’t from 2003 to 2007. The Democrats owned it from '93 to’95. The rest of the time it was split. So the republicans might have 16 out of 18, but the Democrats did 14 out of 18. You can argue that the 4 years the Republicans controlled everything recently is significant, but then you’ll have to confront the fact that our economy was doing fine at the time. It wasn’t until Democrats took control of Congress that it started to tank. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/230 "2009-02-27T16:30:46Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > You can argue that the 4 years the Republicans controlled everything recently is significant, Six years. Having 50 Democrats and 50 Republicans in the Senate when Jeffords flipped didn’t make much difference. > [@Sinaijon](#): > > but then you’ll have to confront the fact that our economy was doing fine at the time. It wasn’t until Democrats took control of Congress that it started to tank. Aww, how cute. He’s trying to link correlation with causation. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/231 "2009-02-27T16:36:56Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > You can argue that the 4 years the Republicans controlled everything recently is significant, but then you’ll have to confront the fact that our economy was doing fine at the time. It wasn’t until Democrats took control of Congress that it started to tank. That’s when Iraq turned around, too. Should we be thanking the Democratic Congress for the improvements in Iraq then? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/232 "2009-02-27T16:37:43Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > He’s trying to link correlation with causation. I’m sorry. I was just trying to fit in. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/233 "2009-02-27T16:40:24Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > That’s when Iraq turned around, too. Should we be thanking the Democratic Congress for the improvements in Iraq then? > > -Joe No - we should thank the Shia for winning the Civil War and completing their ethnic cleansing and the Sunni for building big walls to huddle behind. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/234 "2009-02-27T16:41:11Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Should we be thanking the Democratic Congress for the improvements in Iraq then? Quite possibly. Putting congressional pressure to withdraw certainly upset the status quo, which wasn’t really working. The only real counter I would offer is that the President is explicitly in charge of the military forces, while Congress is explicitly in control of the purse strings, as such I’d tend to give credit/fault to the President for things military, and to Congress for fiscal things. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/235 "2009-02-27T16:44:36Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > You can argue that the 4 years the Republicans controlled everything recently is significant, but then you’ll have to confront the fact that our economy was doing fine at the time. It wasn’t until Democrats took control of Congress that it started to tank. It’s good to see you finally embrace the idea that you are responsible for the shit that goes down on your watch. Now there’s a little hurricane damage I’d like to talk to you about. And some buildings with an airplane stuck in 'em. And a dot-com bubble. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/236 "2009-02-27T16:50:18Z")
[quote=“Sinaijon, post:234, topic:487322”] Quite possibly. Putting congressional pressure to withdraw certainly upset the status quo, which wasn’t really working./QUOTE]What congressional pressure? For the most part, Congress has yet to find its balls. (Pelosi on the first bailout: “We have yielded . . . on almost every point…” You control Congress! Why are you yielding so much?!) > [@Sinaijon](#): > > I’m sorry. I was just trying to fit in. No, you weren’t, but nice try. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/237 "2009-02-27T17:01:39Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > This is stupid way to measure. In recent history. The republicans owned the gov’t from 2003 to 2007. The Democrats owned it from '93 to’95. The rest of the time it was split. So the republicans might have 16 out of 18, but the Democrats did 14 out of 18. Of course it is - the rarity is when one party controls both branches. It doesn’t make my statement inaccurate. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/238 "2009-02-27T17:08:31Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > This is stupid way to measure. In recent history. The republicans owned the gov’t from 2003 to 2007. From 2001 through 2003, Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency, and, arguably, the Supreme Court as well (witness the 5-4 Bush v. Gore fiasco.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/239 "2009-02-27T18:09:49Z")
To hijack the thread back to the original topic… [http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindal\_admits\_katrina\_story\_was\_false.php](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindal_admits_katrina_story_was_false.php) From _Talking Points Memo_, without which no citizen can hope to be adequately informed… **Jindal Admits Katrina Story Was False** ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/240 "2009-02-27T18:51:52Z")
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