# Bobby Jindal. you lying sack of \[disgusting bodily waste\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 25, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322 "2009-02-25T04:20:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/61 "2009-02-25T15:20:22Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Ferchrisakes, it’s obvious that “Disneyland to Las Vegas” is the latest center square on Right Wing Buzz Word Bingo. “Arugula” “Tax Cut” “Porkulus” “Crocoduck” BINGO! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/62 "2009-02-25T15:20:57Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Well, the good news is, I think Obama won the 2008 election last night. > > Or at least, Jindal lost the Republican nom. Obama won it on Nov. 4. Maybe you mean the 2012 election? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/63 "2009-02-25T15:22:38Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > Who gives a copulation? The point is, the word “constitutional” can and has been used as a euphemism for “bowel movement.” Let’s not nitpick this anymore. > > Robin The proper usage is “airborne copulation.” ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/64 "2009-02-25T15:24:06Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > “Arugula” > “Tax Cut” > “Porkulus” > “Crocoduck” > > BINGO! You forgot “Hussein” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/65 "2009-02-25T15:29:36Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > You sad, pathetic, desperate apologist! Please find some evidence anywhere of an actual proposed train in the bill between Las Vegas and LA (or, now, apparently Disneyland). > > Or retract your statement above. [Well, there is this…](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gdDrWnoMueqVFI-Uo1ClxVZur22AD96ADKM00) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Reluctant to call it quits, key lawmakers bargained into overtime Thursday on the $790 billion economic stimulus legislation before reaching final agreement more than 24 hours after first announcing a deal. Lingering controversy over school-modernization money and a scaled-back tax break for businesses forced a delay in final votes on the legislation. But by nightfall, with Democratic leaders eager for final passage by the weekend, all issues were reported settled. > > …Another late addition was a quadrupling to $8 billion, at the behest of Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., of money to construct high-speed rail lines. Reid’s office issued a statement noting that a proposed Los Angeles-to-Las Vegas rail could get a big chunk of the money. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/66 "2009-02-25T15:33:17Z")
The GOP keeps having this problem–a name emerges as the “Saviour of the Party”, the name gets built up by the talking heads and the editorial writers, but when the public finally gets a look at said Messiah you can almost hear that sound effect they play when you lose on _The Price is Right_. See also: Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson. Sarah Palin somehow still remains plausible as a party leader, which is one reason why I drink, but I think most people realize she isn’t going to lead the GOP back to sanity. With Jindal’s epic fail, I wonder who the next GOP Messiah will be? My money is on Eric Cantor–ironic, since he’s Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/67 "2009-02-25T15:37:39Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Obama won it on Nov. 4. Maybe you mean the 2012 election? 😉 :smack: FUCK ME. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/68 "2009-02-25T15:38:29Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Because it isn’t in the [expletive deleted] bill, you [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted]. Use your [expletive deleted]-filled head for a single [expletive deleted] second. I am using my head. How many ‘shovel ready’ high speed train projects are there? Maybe 3? A half dozen maybe in the wings? The LALV has been a pet project for Harry Reids for a _long_ time. It isn’t that hard to deduce that he will push for a bunch of the money to go for that project. None of the other projects have such a highly placed champion. Of course there isn’t specific language for that project in the bill. I don’t think there’s specific language for any project anywhere in the bill. Lets turn the tables around. In some alternate universe, McCain/Palin wins the election, and Ted Stevens becomes the Senate Leader. They write and pass a stimulus bill that sets aside $8 billion for building bridges. Would it be that far out to assume that Ted probably wants a piece of that action for his Gravina Island pet project? ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/69 "2009-02-25T15:38:53Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > [Well, there is this…](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gdDrWnoMueqVFI-Uo1ClxVZur22AD96ADKM00) Which, as has already been pointed out, is not the same as saying the proposed rail is a funded item as is being claimed. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/70 "2009-02-25T15:39:18Z")
We had the same reaction to Jindal last night. I think I said, “Does he think we are six?” But this morning he was on Today and he spoke normally (I think it was him. I’m not a morning person). My guess is he just can’t give a speech. He has three years to learn and improve. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/71 "2009-02-25T15:42:05Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > The GOP keeps having this problem–a name emerges as the “Saviour of the Party”, the name gets built up by the talking heads and the editorial writers, but when the public finally gets a look at said Messiah you can almost hear that sound effect they play when you lose on _The Price is Right_. > > See also: Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson. Sarah Palin somehow still remains plausible as a party leader, which is one reason why I drink, but I think most people realize she isn’t going to lead the GOP back to sanity. > > With Jindal’s epic fail, I wonder who the next GOP Messiah will be? My money is on Eric Cantor–ironic, since he’s Jewish. I find it odd that the GOP picks these “saviors” rather than letting the people choose the voice that resonates for them. I can’t think of any Rs I know that would have pinned their hopes on Jindal. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/72 "2009-02-25T15:42:34Z")
**Sinaijon** , It would be easy to not lie or mislead on this point. Just say that, in your opinion, the bill’s money will likely go to a specific misguided light rail project. Fine. No one objects to that opinion. What we object to is the lie that the bill includes that earmark, or the misleading statement that the bill funds projects “such as” that. If I say that the bill includes funding for basic scientific research such as psychological study of the reasons why many Republicans brazenly mislead the American public, would my statement be true and not misleading? ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/73 "2009-02-25T15:43:54Z")
So is the GOP objection on the train connecting Las Vegas to Disneyland? Or on a train connecting Las Vegas and Los Angeles? Connecting Las Vegas and Los Angeles seems sensible to me. Connecting Las Vegas and Disneyland seems incongruent to me, but I will also believe the the GOP tossed in “Disneyland” to make the spending seem superfluous. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/74 "2009-02-25T15:48:24Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > [Well, there is this…](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gdDrWnoMueqVFI-Uo1ClxVZur22AD96ADKM00) Your quote means nothing. There is still no such provision _in the bill_. The exact light rail projects are to be determined later. The bill does NOT set aside money for the Disney rail. Jindal made that up. The fact that the Republicans are forced to keep making things up to prove how “larded” the bill is is testament to how lean it really is. It’s very sad that your party has decided to put all its chips on hoping for the economy to go tits up. It’s like refusing to help throw buckets of water on a house fire so you can blame the people throwing the water for the house burning down. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/75 "2009-02-25T15:49:40Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > So is the GOP objection on the train connecting Las Vegas to Disneyland? Or on a train connecting Las Vegas and Los Angeles? > > Connecting Las Vegas and Los Angeles seems sensible to me. > Connecting Las Vegas and Disneyland seems incongruent to me, but I will also believe the the GOP tossed in “Disneyland” to make the spending seem superfluous. The proposed route is Las Vegas-Anaheim. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/76 "2009-02-25T15:52:35Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Your quote means nothing. There is still no such provision _in the bill_. The exact light rail projects are to be determined later. The bill does NOT set aside money for the Disney rail. Jindal made that up. The fact that the Republicans are forced to keep making things up to prove how “larded” the bill is is testament to how lean it really is. > > It’s very sad that your party has decided to put all its chips on hoping for the economy to go tits up. It’s like refusing to help throw buckets of water on a house fire so you can blame the people throwing the water for the house burning down. What are you talking about, for one thing? High speed rail and light rail are two separate things. If you try to go fast on light rail it will snap apart. Light rail generally is delineated as commuting lines serving a hub, though they do have other functions. High speed rail operates at far higher speed over far longer distances. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/77 "2009-02-25T15:54:25Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > We had the same reaction to Jindal last night. I think I said, “Does he think we are six?” That’s exactly the thing about Bobby Jindal. He’s a pretty smart guy. That slow, dopey performance last night was not a reflection of his own intellect, but of how he sees the voters – especially Republican voters. It’s been my impression for years that Jindal dumbs his act down to a crawl and puts on the cornpone and Jaysus costume not because it’s who he really is, but it’s who he thinks the voters of of his state are (and he’s not far wrong, I’m originally from that state and know something about it). He’s like a used car salesman working the rubes, but someone needs to tell him the whole country isn’t like Lousiana. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/78 "2009-02-25T15:56:29Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > What are you talking about, for one thing? High speed rail and light rail are two separate things. If you try to go fast on light rail it will snap apart. > > Light rail generally is delineated as commuting lines serving a hub, though they do have other functions. High speed rail operates at far higher speed over far longer distances. An accurate correction, I’m sure, but also an irrelevant one. ---
**Author:** ![doublehelix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@doublehelix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doublehelix)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/79 "2009-02-25T15:57:52Z")
Levitating trainins and the facts: > [@](#): > > Levitating Trains > A number of congressional Republicans, including Reps. Patrick McHenry (N.C.), Thaddeus McCotter (Mich.), Candice Miller (Mich.), and Sens. John McCain (Ariz.) and Jim DeMint (S.C.), have accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat from Nevada, of inserting an $8 billion “earmark” into the stimulus bill for a levitating train from Disneyland to Las Vegas. That’s a major distortion. No money is specifically set aside for such a train. > > What the bill contains is $8 billion in funding for unspecified high speed rail projects (skip to p. 237 for the relevant section). The money is to be allocated by the secretary of transportation. A DOT spokesperson told us that it is “premature to speculate” about what exactly will be funded. Even vigilant pork-busting budget watchdogs agree that the “levitating train earmark” charge is without merit: Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan group that scours legislation for earmarks, told us that there is “no way that this provision is an earmark for Sen. Reid.” > > In truth, “levitating” trains really do exist – but they are properly called maglev trains, and they are high-tech marvels. The technology uses electromagnets to lift the train off the tracks. That reduces friction and allows trains to reach extremely high speeds; in 2003, an experimental Japanese maglev train reached a record speed of 581 kilometers (or about 361 miles) per hour. > > [snip] > > Officials in both Nevada and California, including California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons (both Republicans) have agreed to back a maglev train between Anaheim (home of Disneyland) and Las Vegas. In June 2008, Reid did help to secure $45 million for an environmental study of the proposed route. > > It’s possible the Anaheim-Las Vegas project will receive some of the stimulus funds, though how much remains uncertain. It’s not even clear how much Reid expects will go to it. On Feb. 12, the Associated Press reported that a statement from Reid’s office bragged that the Anaheim-Las Vegas project could receive what AP called “a big chunk of the money.” But The Washington Post later quoted a Reid spokesman as saying that while the project is “eligible" for funding, the transportation secretary, Ray LaHood – a former Republican congressman – “will have complete flexibility as to which program he uses to allocate the funds.” We asked Reid’s office to explain the discrepancy – “big chunk” or merely “eligible” – but we received no response. > > In any case, the weaker statement is more in line with the actual text of the legislation: > > American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Within 60 days of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall submit to the House and Senate Committees on Appropriations a strategic plan that describes how the Secretary will use the funding provided under this heading to improve and deploy high speed passenger rail systems. > > Is this pork? Taxpayers for Common Sense’s Ehrich Zimmermann told us: “Nothing about the bill indicates that maglev has a higher priority than other types of high speed rail.” That is the DOT’s view as well. A spokesperson for the DOT told us: “The Secretary of Transportation is developing a comprehensive plan over the next 60 days to ensure the allocated high-speed rail funds are spent on projects that will have the highest-impact across the country.” > > The L.A.-to-Vegas project may well be under consideration for funding; according to a FAQ posted on the Federal Railroad Administration’s Web site, maglev projects are eligible for funding under ARRA. But that same FAQ also points to a 2005 Railroad Administration report to Congress that found that outside of the heavily populated northeast corridor (roughly D.C. through Boston) and a 527-mile section along California’s coast, maglev’s costs exceeded its benefits. That implies that the proposed Disneyland-to-Las Vegas route doesn’t make economic sense to the FRA. > [snip] . [http://www.factcheck.org/politics/gop\_stimulus\_myths.html](http://www.factcheck.org/politics/gop_stimulus_myths.html) ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/80 "2009-02-25T15:58:29Z")
The stimulus program is largely a collection of state and local projects that need to be done ,and doing them will assist the economy and provide employment. That is practically by definition pork . Take out the pork and the bill is just a tax break bill. The argument is ridiculous. We are having a huge pork bill to stimulate the economy. The response that it is bad because it is full of pork is inane. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322.md?page=5)