# Bobby Jindal. you lying sack of \[disgusting bodily waste\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 25, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322 "2009-02-25T04:20:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/81 "2009-02-25T15:58:37Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > The proposed route is Las Vegas-Anaheim. Where is that proposal in the ARRA? Show us the exact text. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/82 "2009-02-25T16:02:25Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > **Sinaijon** , > If I say that the bill includes funding for basic scientific research such as psychological study of the reasons why many Republicans brazenly mislead the American public, would my statement be true and not misleading? Depends. If, say, Nancy Pelosi, had been fighting for funding for her pet project, ‘Misleading Republican Pyscology’ for 20 years, and then the bill included $8 billion for ‘Partisan Political Psycology’, and there were only 3 or for other studies waiting for funding, then it would not be misleading. However, if it was just for ‘Scientific Reseach’, your statement would be misleading, because there are probably thousands, if not millions of scientific research projects that are competing for the funding. Another example would be the ACORN thing. They are eligible for the money, but there are probably thousands of other organizations that are as well. So it would be misleading to imply ACORN is a priority in the bill. I think we agree that there is some latitude on where funding will go, because, as stated, there is no **specific** language in the bill. But for me, if the amount of money is greater than $1billion, and I can count the number of eligible projects on one hand, then its not misleading to pick any one as an example. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/83 "2009-02-25T16:05:23Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Take out the pork and the bill is just a tax break bill. Just like the Republican version of the bill…all tax cuts, all the time. Grover Norquist is still riding on the backs of the DC Republicans, cracking his whip. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/84 "2009-02-25T16:06:28Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > The GOP keeps having this problem–a name emerges as the “Saviour of the Party”, the name gets built up by the talking heads and the editorial writers, but when the public finally gets a look at said Messiah you can almost hear that sound effect they play when you lose on _The Price is Right_. Not to mention his problems with the GOP True Believers back home: > [@](#): > > [Jindal Not Conservative Enough For Some In LA](http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20090224/NEWS01/902240306) > > When Gov. Bobby Jindal talks to the nation Tuesday, he will be feted by the national Republican Party as the GOP’s own man of hope - an antidote to President Barack Obama. > > Louisiana’s 37-year-old governor will deliver the GOP’s response to Obama’s national address tonight, and it’ll be a breakthrough moment. He’ll be the talk of political junkies, and the conservative punditry will likely gush over him and his inspirational story, the Rhodes Scholar son of Indian immigrants. > > But there’s a twist: Back home in Louisiana, a state that turns more Republican with every election cycle, Jindal is not conservative enough for some. He’s facing a rebellion from an unlikely source - the homegrown conservative punditry… ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/85 "2009-02-25T16:10:16Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Where is that proposal in the ARRA? Show us the exact text. While you’re at it, **Moto** , please produce the statement issued by Reid’s office. I’d love to see a statement from a Senator that talks about getting a “big chunk” of funding. Unfortunately, it appears that others who have looked for it have been unable to find such a statement: > **[A Statement From Harry Reid's Office](http://cahsr.blogspot.com/2009/02/statement-from-harry-reids-office.html)** > > NOTICE: The Blogger service temporarily acted up and failed to include the most recent post correctly on this blog's home page. Our apologi... More debunking of the lie here: [http://mediamatters.org/items/200902180010](http://mediamatters.org/items/200902180010) The AP is becoming more and more notorious for dubious reporting that tends to perpetuate right wing talking points and lies. Furthermore, the Washington Post was just discovered yesterday to have edited out a clause in an article about the field mice lie that called it into question. They preferred to pass along Republican lies without qualification. As do you. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/86 "2009-02-25T16:19:46Z")
Really petty, but does the guy have some sort of speech impediment? Because he sort of whistled a syllable every minute or so. And once I started noticing it, I found it impossible to parse the sense of what he was saying because I was listening for the next whistle and trying to make out if it were certain sounds he was doing it on… Anyone else notice this? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/87 "2009-02-25T16:34:58Z")
> [@drewbert](#): > > [insult] him. > > Anyone get the feeling from his delivery that he was channeling Mister Rogers? Nope. I didn’t see it, I was in the car, listening. He sounds exactly like a mega-church preacher. Same rhythms, same emphases, same speech structure, same types of anecdotes, same way of building to his point and coming to a conclusion. A certain portion of the base is going to love what I heard. It’s comfortable and familiar, and speaks exactly to them in a way that they’re used to being spoken to. I’m not dismissing him at all. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/88 "2009-02-25T16:35:58Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Didn’t Obama say last night that he identified trillions of wasteful spending and that they’ve barely scratched the surface and that it would take a long time to review all of it? Yup. He also said that some of the cuts he’d propose would piss off the Democrats, too. That if a program is wasteful and not helpful, out it goes, no matter which side of the aisle howls and stamps its feet. Now, whether he can actually get a budget with slashes like that through Congress is another story, of course; but President Obama served notice last night that everybody’s ox is endangered. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/89 "2009-02-25T16:38:21Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > …The AP is becoming more and more notorious for dubious reporting that tends to perpetuate right wing talking points and lies. … Yeah, so I’ve noticed as well as many others. Anybody know what the “regards” happened? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/90 "2009-02-25T16:40:03Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Nope. > > I didn’t see it, I was in the car, listening. He sounds exactly like a mega-church preacher. Same rhythms, same emphases, same speech structure, same types of anecdotes, same way of building to his point and coming to a conclusion. A certain portion of the base is going to love what I heard. It’s comfortable and familiar, and speaks exactly to them in a way that they’re used to being spoken to. I’m not dismissing him at all. Wow. I was stunned by how bad it was from an audio/visual perspective. It was as if he’d never given a speech before in his life! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/91 "2009-02-25T16:46:44Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > The AP is becoming more and more notorious for dubious reporting that tends to perpetuate right wing talking points and lies. > [@elucidator](#): > > Yeah, so I’ve noticed as well as many others. Anybody know what the “regards” happened? A couple of years ago, a guy named [Ron Fournier](http://mediamatters.org/columns/200807220006) took over as Washington Bureau Chief and Political Editor for the AP. He’s a right winger and a buddy of Karl Rove who has slowly been moving away from the AP’s traditional objectivity and dry factual reporting into more and more overt pro-GOP political editorializing. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/92 "2009-02-25T16:55:56Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > But let’s assume that the high speed rail was both: a) true and b) an absolute waste of money. Fine. Eliminate it. But you’ve got to do way deeper than that. Obama does as well. Cut out all earmarks and end the Iraq war. I really wish people would stop spouting this bullshit. Guess what percentage of the annual budget earmarks are. Go on, guess. 15%? 10%? 5%? No, sorry, earmarks are less than 1% of the annual budget, at least by any reasonable estimate. Plus, many earmarks are in the form of language directing agencies as to how they should spend money they’re already getting. So cutting out all earmarks would accomplish virtually jack shit. Thanks for playing. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/93 "2009-02-25T17:00:49Z")
> [@SteveMB](#): > > Not to mention his problems with the GOP True Believers back home: Just to continue the tangent about Jindal’s chances: there’s also the disconnect between his Catholic-convert status and the conservative Protestantism of many Republican voters. If Christian conservatives overall were so suspicious of the Mormon Mitt Romney, I don’t think a lot of them are going to be much readier to warm up to a [Death Cookie](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0074/0074_01.asp) eater like Jindal. (Okay, yes, I know that most conservative Protestants are not as rabidly anti-Catholic as Jack Chick. But there definitely is a significant level of anti-Catholic feeling in many conservative Protestant churches.) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/94 "2009-02-25T17:02:02Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > I really wish people would stop spouting this bullshit. Guess what percentage of the annual budget earmarks are. Go on, guess. 15%? 10%? 5%? No, sorry, earmarks are less than 1% of the annual budget, at least by any reasonable estimate. Plus, many earmarks are in the form of language directing agencies as to how they should spend money they’re already getting. So cutting out all earmarks would accomplish virtually jack shit. Thanks for playing. But…but…but…John McCain RAN on earmarks! They must be important and vastly wasteful or else the whole Republican 2008 presidential campaign is empty air! Ohhhh…never mind. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/95 "2009-02-25T17:11:57Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > I find it odd that the GOP picks these “saviors” rather than letting the people choose the voice that resonates for them. I can’t think of any Rs I know that would have pinned their hopes on Jindal. Don’t be silly, if you allow _hoi polloi_ to select their own saviors they’ll likely come up with one of those terribly unsuitable types–simply Not Our Sort Of People, Lovey. We must **tell them** who to support, they’re such children, really… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/96 "2009-02-25T18:16:04Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > Lets turn the tables around. In some alternate universe, McCain/Palin wins the election, and Ted Stevens becomes the Senate Leader. They write and pass a stimulus bill that sets aside $8 billion for building bridges. Would it be that far out to assume that Ted probably wants a piece of that action for his Gravina Island pet project? Such a perfect example for a “Lets turn the tables around” moment. The difference is that one of the end projects is useful and the other is corrupt nonsense. That sums up so much of our politics lately. Like discriminating against gays or destroying other countries (or our own, ftm). You’d do better with an example where the Ds objected to something that wasn’t transparently backward. I’m disappointed that it took 44 replies for the semantic apologies and denials to begin. Our Rs are sleeping in lately! Can we just surrender and apologize for the unjust accusation of lying so that we don’t have to go on with 3 more pages of arguing what “such as” means? Then we can get back to what a [kitten riding a pony over a rainbow] Jindal is. Cuz even if the bill specifically included the new train, it’s still a pathetically small and stupid thing to complain about in the big picture. Kinda like “you’re technically inaccurate in your title!” ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/97 "2009-02-25T18:18:50Z")
One of Andrew Sullivan’s readers likened it to watching Will Smith talk, followed by Urkel. Couldn’t agree more. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/98 "2009-02-25T18:56:44Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > I really wish people would stop spouting this bullshit. Guess what percentage of the annual budget earmarks are. Go on, guess. 15%? 10%? 5%? No, sorry, earmarks are less than 1% of the annual budget, at least by any reasonable estimate. Plus, many earmarks are in the form of language directing agencies as to how they should spend money they’re already getting. So cutting out all earmarks would accomplish virtually jack shit. Thanks for playing. Read the rest of my post; that is exactly the point I was making. Neither side has the political courage to go in with a chainsaw and get this budget anywhere near balanced: this year (and no that isn’t advisable) or ten years from now. [QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Yup. He also said that some of the cuts he’d propose would piss off the Democrats, too. That if a program is wasteful and not helpful, out it goes, no matter which side of the aisle howls and stamps its feet. Now, whether he can actually get a budget with slashes like that through Congress is another story, of course; but President Obama served notice last night that everybody’s ox is endangered. [/QUOTE] I don’t buy this. He’s been around politics for a long time. Surely he has some broad idea of what type of programs that government should not be involved in. This idea that he has these massive cuts ready as soon as he explores the idea is laughable. If he hasn’t explored them yet, then how does he know there are trillions to be cut? He just speaks in generalities about making Congressmen mad when he’s only been in office a month and passed an 800 billion dollar spending bill which has satisfied every special interest to the max. Almost his entire speech last night was a laundry list of new spending and new programs. Forgive me if I need more than a wink and a nudge to believe that he is serious about cutting spending. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/99 "2009-02-25T18:57:10Z")
Don’t pay any attention to the Las-Vegas-to-Disneyland bullshit. It’s the standard Republican tactic: frame the debate with an obvious lie, and you control the debate that follows. Now the debate has become “is there a provision for LA-to-LV?” instead of “so what if there is?” By accepting the lie as the focal point for the debate, we implicitly accept that _Las-Vegas-to-Disneyland train is wrong and wasteful._ We argue that the provision isn’t there because we’re made to feel guilty that it might _be_ there. You want to complain about LA-to-LV? Great. Prove that it’s a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/100 "2009-02-25T19:11:45Z")
> [@doublehelix](#): > > Levitating trainins and the facts: > > > [@](#): > > > > [snip] > > Officials in both Nevada and California, including California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons (both Republicans) have agreed to back a maglev train between **Anaheim** (home of Disneyland) and Las Vegas. In June 2008, Reid did help to secure $45 million for an environmental study of the proposed route. > > > > It’s possible the **Anaheim-Las Vegas project** will receive some of the stimulus funds, though how much remains uncertain. It’s not even clear how much Reid expects will go to it. On Feb. 12, the Associated Press reported that a statement from Reid’s office bragged that the **Anaheim-Las Vegas project** could receive what AP called “a big chunk of the money.” But The Washington Post later quoted a Reid spokesman as saying that while the project is “eligible" for funding, the transportation secretary, Ray LaHood – a former Republican congressman – “will have complete flexibility as to which program he uses to allocate the funds.” We asked Reid’s office to explain the discrepancy – “big chunk” or merely “eligible” – but we received no response. > > [snip] > > The **L.A.-to-Vegas project** may well be under consideration for funding; according to a FAQ posted on the Federal Railroad Administration’s Web site, maglev projects are eligible for funding under ARRA. But that same FAQ also points to a 2005 Railroad Administration report to Congress that found that outside of the heavily populated northeast corridor (roughly D.C. through Boston) and a 527-mile section along California’s coast, maglev’s costs exceeded its benefits. That implies that the proposed Disneyland-to-Las Vegas route doesn’t make economic sense to the FRA. > > [http://www.factcheck.org/politics/gop\_stimulus\_myths.html](http://www.factcheck.org/politics/gop_stimulus_myths.html) For somebody who calls themselves “factcheck”, you’d think they might check up on the fact that we Anaheimians aren’t really that thrilled about being told that [we’re in Los Angeles.](http://www.veteranpresence.com/2006MLB/Angels.gif) :mad: > [@sachertorte](#): > > So is the GOP objection on the train connecting Las Vegas to Disneyland? Or on a train connecting Las Vegas and Los Angeles? > > Connecting Las Vegas and Los Angeles seems sensible to me. > Connecting Las Vegas and Disneyland seems incongruent to me, but I will also believe the the GOP tossed in “Disneyland” to make the spending seem superfluous. Well, the word I would have used was “frivolous.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322.md?page=6)