# Body shaming insults should not be allowed here, towards anyone.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153>\
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**Created:** [November 27, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153 "2018-11-27T12:00:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/101 "2018-11-27T23:42:29Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> It’s _Christie._ Why you gotta name shame the man? Reported.

It’s all just a big blame game name shame game.

Christie, Christie, bo-bistie…

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/102 "2018-11-27T23:55:41Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Like everyone else, I look fucking stupid in a capotain.

> [@Riemann](#):
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> I guess now I can agree with you, you _do_ look fucking stupid in a capotain.

To be fair, I’m not sure it’s the capotain’s fault.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/103 "2018-11-28T00:21:02Z")

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> [@JeffB](#):
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> To be fair, I’m not sure it’s the capotain’s fault.

But are you the capotain of her heart?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/104 "2018-11-28T00:29:17Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> But are you the capotain of her heart?

[I love that song!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX-Ru1XkNZc)

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/105 "2018-11-28T01:08:23Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> It’s _Christie._ Why you gotta name shame the man? Reported.

Stop shaming John Mace for his poor spelling ability. Reported.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/106 "2018-11-28T18:45:06Z")

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Body shaming is bad, yes. But to me it is worse when it is done hypocritically; that is to say when it is done by someone who would themselves likely be the target of body-shaming.

It’s like the bully who cries foul when he himself is bullied.  
“Bullying is wrong but, hey, suck it up; if anyone deserves to be bullied it’s you”.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/107 "2018-11-28T19:31:58Z")

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Say what you want about the Capotain, but have a go at Tenoille and we’ll have to step outside.

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/108 "2018-11-28T22:08:33Z")

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Which Capotain has the most shameful body: Kirk or Picard?  
(or between acting Capotain Troi or bearded Riker?)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/109 "2018-11-28T23:19:04Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> Body shaming is bad, yes. But to me it is worse when it is done hypocritically; that is to say when it is done by someone who would themselves likely be the target of body-shaming.

That’s not hypocritical. It would be hypocritical if the person had made statements that people should not body shame others, or had complained about being body shamed. It seems people get this wrong around here a lot.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/110 "2018-12-04T15:33:08Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> That’s not hypocritical. It would be hypocritical if the person had made statements that people should not body shame others, or had complained about being body shamed. It seems people get this wrong around here a lot.

Okay, I stand corrected. But this situation must also have a name. Like hearing an African-American person calling for the enslaving of Latinos.

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**Author:** ![Fantome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Fantome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fantome)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/111 "2018-12-04T16:50:31Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> That’s not hypocritical. It would be hypocritical if the person had made statements that people should not body shame others, or had complained about being body shamed. It seems people get this wrong around here a lot.

You took BwanaBob’s quote out of context. His next paragraph was

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> It’s like the bully who cries foul when he himself is bullied.  
> “Bullying is wrong but, hey, suck it up; if anyone deserves to be bullied it’s you”.

That quote infers that the body shamer, like the bully, feels body-shaming is wrong but does it to others.

> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> But this situation must also have a name. Like hearing an African-American person calling for the enslaving of Latinos.

If the African-American is calling for that hypocritically, then the name is" hypocrisy." If he thinks there’s a rational reason why it’s okay in the one case and not the other and he’s wrong, then the name could be “irrationality”, but it could be something else, like having incorrect facts as a starting point. We’d need more information.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-shaming-insults-should-not-be-allowed-here-towards-anyone/825153/112 "2018-12-04T21:00:53Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> Okay, I stand corrected. But this situation must also have a name. Like hearing an African-American person calling for the enslaving of Latinos.

My father’s second wife was a German Jewish woman who was highly prejudiced against African and Latin American people. I called her “titanium” because “irony” just wasn’t strong enough to describe her.

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