# Body Signals and the Fall of Radical Islam **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 9, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015 "2015-10-09T11:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/281 "2015-10-24T02:01:20Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Yes, it means God wants you to have the buttsex. What makes that even funnier is that the OP is, IIRC, gay. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/282 "2015-10-24T04:18:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What makes that even funnier is that the OP is, IIRC, gay. If you say so. But it doesn’t exactly rise to the level of irony. ---
**Author:** ![IDtenT\_Error](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@IDtenT\_Error](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IDtenT_Error)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/283 "2015-10-25T22:55:45Z")
> [@Snark\_Hunter](#): > > That book happens to be a biased anti-Mormon work (from what I’ve heard–I don’t waste my time reading dishonest, sensational polemic filth). All Mormons (actually, all mankind) are entitled to personal revelation, even us “liars” who make up stories about talking to our bishops. Personal revelation is nothing more or less than the Holy Ghost speaking in our hearts. > > Abraham, Moses, Isaiah, etc. all received personal revelation. Hitler claimed the same thing. How (if in any way at all) did he differentiate himself from you? Why should we _trust_ your ‘revelation’? What do you do, that we should trust you, that he _didn’t_ do? Can you show us how your arm itched, that you paid attention to, but his itched in exactly the same way, but he ignored? I’m not a Mormon. I’m not willing to take your word for the shit you’re spewing. Show me it works, or go the fuck away. I don’t want to see your mad bullshit, unless you can prove it works. ---
**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/284 "2015-10-26T00:23:52Z")
> [@IDtenT\_Error](#): > > Hitler claimed the same thing. How (if in any way at all) did he differentiate himself from you? He didn’t, as I wasn’t born yet. > [@](#): > > Why should we _trust_ your ‘revelation’? What do you do, that we should trust you, that he _didn’t_ do? Can you show us how your arm itched, that you paid attention to, but his itched in exactly the same way, but he ignored? I don’t receive revelation for the world, just for my own benefit (hence the term _personal_ revelation). Only the current leadership of the LDS church is authorized to receive revelation for the entire world. You’re free to distrust me on the matter of body signals, as IANA prophet. > [@](#): > > I’m not a Mormon. I’m not willing to take your word for the shit you’re spewing. This is not Mormon doctrine. > [@](#): > > Show me it works, or go the fuck away. I don’t want to see your mad bullshit, unless you can prove it works. Calm down. Nobody forced you to read this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/285 "2015-10-26T07:10:11Z")
> [@Snark\_Hunter](#): > > Actually, I saw and read what ISIS was doing, and I wondered if I could do anything about it. Also, I wondered what would happen if many knew about the signals. This thread was the result. But if you think we’re a tough crowd, how do you hope to sell your idea to radical extremists? ---
**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/286 "2015-10-26T08:21:33Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > But if you think we’re a tough crowd, how do you hope to sell your idea to radical extremists? Simple. Because the more messed up or out of whack a person is (justifying _jihads_, for instance), the more God will manifest Himself to get through to that person. I know this from personal experience, as I’ve been pretty much out of whack myself. There is no darkness of mind and heart that Allah cannot penetrate. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/287 "2015-10-26T10:56:43Z")
> [@Snark\_Hunter](#): > > This is not Mormon doctrine. I thought you said the bishop was onboard? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/288 "2015-10-26T11:12:06Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I thought you said the bishop was onboard? No no no; the bishop said “I’m bored.” ---
**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/289 "2015-10-26T11:22:53Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I thought you said the bishop was onboard? He told me I could write a book on the signals, but he had never heard of them before. They certainly aren’t _official Mormon doctrine_. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/290 "2015-10-26T11:27:25Z")
> [@Snark\_Hunter](#): > > He told me I could write a book on the signals, but he had never heard of them before. They certainly aren’t _official Mormon doctrine_. But you’ve sowed the seeds, so it’s only time. ---
**Author:** ![Clark\_Cello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Clark\_Cello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_Cello)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/291 "2015-10-26T11:46:16Z")
> [@Snark\_Hunter](#): > > the Theory of Body Signals. It isn’t a scientific theory, but rather a spiritual one. That’s when I stopped reading this thread. Hope it’s being going well in the last few hundred posts! ---
**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/292 "2015-10-26T12:44:26Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > But you’ve sowed the seeds, so it’s only time. In order for it to become official doctrine, it would have to be presented by the prophet in General Conference and voted upon. I just don’t see that happening anytime in the near future, even though I personally believe it’s true. Now as to whether the Muslim extremists will accept it, I can only hope. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/293 "2015-10-26T12:54:35Z")
You know you’re headed in the right direction if you expect ISIS to adopt your program first because it’s unlikely to find traction with the Mormons. ---
**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/294 "2015-10-26T14:59:39Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > You know you’re headed in the right direction if you expect ISIS to adopt your program first because it’s unlikely to find traction with the Mormons. Probably true, although I overheard some LDS discussing it, saying that some people would have “trouble” with it (implying that it has merit?). But most Mormons I’ve told the theory to have just shrugged it off as pure fiction, or the product of a mentally ill person. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/295 "2015-10-26T15:09:50Z")
> [@Snark\_Hunter](#): > > Probably true, although I overheard some LDS discussing it, saying that some people would have “trouble” with it (implying that it has merit?). But most Mormons I’ve told the theory to have just shrugged it off as pure fiction, or the product of a mentally ill person. Therefore proving that most Mormons think exactly like baseline people. ---
**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhodes/32/273_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhodes)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/296 "2015-10-26T16:07:30Z")
> [@Snark\_Hunter](#): > > **…** > > **Gas pains** = You’re procrastinating something spiritually important too long Dafuq? A _fart_ is “something spiritually important”?? ---
**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/297 "2015-10-26T16:13:54Z")
> [@Rhodes](#): > > Dafuq? A _fart_ is “something spiritually important”?? Gas pains and farts are two different things. ---
**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhodes/32/273_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhodes)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/298 "2015-10-26T16:15:48Z")
> [@Snark\_Hunter](#): > > Gas pains and farts are two different things. Yes, I’m aware of that. Gas pains are what happens when a fart is procrastinated. ETA: Honestly, try it next time you have gas pains. Fart, or do something else spiritual. See which one relieves the pressure. Take notes, and form a theory. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/299 "2015-10-26T16:18:53Z")
> [@Rhodes](#): > > Dafuq? A _fart_ is “something spiritually important”?? I always feel like a new man after a good fart. Ready to take on the world! ---
**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/300 "2015-10-26T16:29:37Z")
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