# Body Signals and the Fall of Radical Islam

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 9, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015 "2015-10-09T11:36:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/81 "2015-10-09T19:42:51Z")

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This just in! Al Jazeera is reporting that all the members of ISIS are feeling all crazy itchy on their left side!

_The seed had been planted._

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/82 "2015-10-09T23:54:17Z")

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I thought the OP is LDS. This “theory” is nowhere near that church’s theology.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/83 "2015-10-10T00:09:01Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I thought the OP is LDS. This “theory” is nowhere near that church’s theology.

Personal Revelation can lead people to a lot of idiosyncratic beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/84 "2015-10-10T00:20:04Z")

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I believe it. Right now my quads are killing me, and I’m quite certain it’s god telling me that I put too much weight on the bar when I was doing squats the other day…

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/85 "2015-10-10T00:21:45Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Then what is god telling me when he makes my other cheeks itch? Inquiring minds!

[Voice of God] **Left Hand of Dorkness** , you’re doing it all wrong. You only need two passes - one to clean, and one to polish." [/Voice of God]

> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Personal Revelation can lead people to a lot of idiosyncratic beliefs.

He’s a **Snark Hunter**. I’d say he was successful.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/86 "2015-10-10T00:35:50Z")

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On a completely serious note, as a left-hander who is the son of a left-hander and the father of a left-hander, I’m deeply offended by your “symbolism.”

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**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/87 "2015-10-10T00:36:31Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I thought the OP is LDS. This “theory” is nowhere near that church’s theology.

I’m inactive LDS. My bishop told me I could write a book on the body signals, but they are **NOT** LDS doctrine.

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**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/88 "2015-10-10T00:42:34Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> On a completely serious note, as a left-hander who is the son of a left-hander and the father of a left-hander, I’m deeply offended by your “symbolism.”

You needn’t be. I’m somewhat ambidextrous, but that doesn’t mean anything.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/89 "2015-10-10T01:03:07Z")

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Neither does your OP.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/90 "2015-10-10T01:17:39Z")

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> [@Snark\_Hunter](#):
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> I’m inactive LDS. My bishop told me I could write a book on the body signals, but they are **NOT** LDS doctrine.

The LDS church does not dictate to its membership what the membership can and cannot author. What the members do, on the other hand, may have consequences for continued membership.

> [@silenus](#):
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> > [@Snark\_Hunter](#):
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> > You needn’t be. I’m somewhat ambidextrous, but that doesn’t mean anything.
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> Neither does your OP.

Yep.

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**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/91 "2015-10-10T03:41:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Neither does your OP.
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> Yep.

Nope. Sorry Monty, but you’re wrong on this one.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/92 "2015-10-10T04:05:01Z")

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So if legs symbolize “thoughts” and a person is paralyzed and cannot move their legs (but can feel), what is God talking about here? Is he talking shit??! :mad: Kinda sounds like it to me…

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/93 "2015-10-10T08:08:01Z")

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> [@Snark\_Hunter](#):
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> Nope. Sorry Monty, but you’re wrong on this one.

Fine. Prove me wrong. Your OP was essentially content-free. It had a lot of stuff pulled out of a particular orifice (might as well go with the whole “body talk” bit) and attributed that to God speaking to you with your body, basically, being a Ouija board for you to pronounce you got indications from God what you already decided you want. Of course, there’s absolutely no way anyone can disprove that God made your left leg itch in response to a question you asked. That also means that you cannot prove it either.

A betting man would say that you didn’t really listen to your bishop when he told you how this “method” contradicts LDS doctrine.

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**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/94 "2015-10-10T10:22:23Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Fine. Prove me wrong.

Oh, come on, Monty. You know better than to use the atheist’s Last Resort argument in a matter of faith.

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> Of course, there’s absolutely no way anyone can disprove that God made your left leg itch in response to a question you asked. That also means that you cannot prove it either.

Then why are you asking for proof?

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> A betting man would say that you didn’t really listen to your bishop when he told you how this “method” contradicts LDS doctrine.

He said nothing of the kind.

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**Author:** ![Hiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3be4f8/32.png) [@Hiker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiker)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/95 "2015-10-10T11:13:25Z")

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> [@Snark\_Hunter](#):
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> Then why are you asking for proof?

That strikes me as an odd question. You presented your theory in _Great Debates_. If you actually want to have a debate over a theory, you will eventually have to come up with something to back it up. You claim to be receiving messages from God and you really are surprised that people take that as a bit of a tall tale?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/96 "2015-10-10T12:50:14Z")

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> [@Snark\_Hunter](#):
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> Oh, come on, Monty. You know better than to use the atheist’s Last Resort argument in a matter of faith.
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> Then why are you asking for proof?

I meant prove me wrong about your OP having any actual meaning. That should’ve been obvious given what I quoted prior.

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> He said nothing of the kind.

Of course he didn’t. You didn’t talk to him about it.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/97 "2015-10-10T13:40:11Z")

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**Snark** – my hemorrhoids itch & burn.  
Does that mean I’m going to win the Lottery?

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**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/98 "2015-10-10T18:52:11Z")

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> [@Hiker](#):
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> That strikes me as an odd question. You presented your theory in _Great Debates_. If you actually want to have a debate over a theory, you will eventually have to come up with something to back it up. You claim to be receiving messages from God and you really are surprised that people take that as a bit of a tall tale?

This is also the place for religious witnessing. Who said I wanted a debate?

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**Author:** ![Snark\_Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snark\_Hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snark_Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/99 "2015-10-10T18:59:17Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I meant prove me wrong about your OP having any actual meaning. That should’ve been obvious given what I quoted prior.
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> Of course he didn’t. You didn’t talk to him about it.

Actually, I did. I gave him the full 3-page theory.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/body-signals-and-the-fall-of-radical-islam/734015/100 "2015-10-10T19:44:23Z")

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> [@Snark\_Hunter](#):
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> This is also the place for religious witnessing. Who said I wanted a debate?

Fine, fine. You witnessed. What you witnessed is a complete mystery that nobody much cares about or wants to know.

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