# Bodybuilders Do Math: can somebody summarize this argument within some fancy math or logical niche? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 12, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599 "2015-01-12T03:56:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599/1 "2015-01-12T03:56:31Z")
Days of the week. Names and numbers couple and uncouple like KY-jellied orgiasts in a darkened room. Number theory? Arithmetic? Logic–surely the double count mixup can be symbolized for instant clarity of what went wrong. Does this pitfall lurk in other areas? Has this been expressed, gussied up with more tricks, as a “paradox” for some logical point. It’s a very amusing thread, but it’s a serious question. And I think everyone screws this up now and then.\* I read somewhere Bertrand Russell spent eight pages proving 1+1=2. FWIW, my Mother, may she rest in peace, studied symbolic logic (as well as physics) for graduate work at Columbia, and since I was a little kid I was into it. \*I saw a photo of a check Einstein wrote in the first week of January, _and he dated it with the wrong year which had ended in December._ Made me feel good all day. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599/2 "2015-01-12T03:59:50Z")
I don’t know that it’s particularly useful to try to classify every possible mistake of reasoning with a particular name, but if you like, you might think of this as a variant of a [fencepost error](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-by-one_error#Fencepost_error) (in counting two weeks, both an initial Sunday and a terminal Sunday were counted). ---
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599/3 "2015-01-12T06:19:48Z")
It reminds me of the problem with _tertian fever_, literally a ‘fever every third day’ which you might think would mean a fever e.g. on Sunday, then Wednesday, and then Saturday. But the Romans counted differently; for them counting started on the day of the fever, not the day after. So a tertian fever is actually a fever every 48 hours: Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday. Sunday (fever) is day 1, then Monday is day 2, then Tuesday (fever again) is day 3; the cycle resets and Tuesday (fever) is day 1 again, Wednesday is day 2, and Thursday (fever) is day 3. The Roman calendar counted down the days to particular reference days like the first of the month or the Ides or Nones, but the reference day counted as day 1, not day 0. So if the Ides were on Wednesday, then the preceding Sunday was ‘four days before the Ides’ and Monday was ‘three days before the Ides’. So there’s a precedent for different day-counting styles. It also applies to the ‘died and arose on the 3rd day’ bit from the Bible: died Friday, rose Sunday. Friday is day 1, Saturday day 2, Sunday day 3 even though Friday PM to Sun AM is less than 48 hours. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599/4 "2015-01-12T06:42:28Z")
I love the guy who can’t divide 31 by seven, and tries to argue that because he can fit 16 workouts into a month, and also 4 weeks into a month, he must be able to work out every other day. That reminds me of that “where did the dollar go?” puzzle. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599/5 "2015-01-12T07:08:08Z")
The linked thread is funny, but in the end the guy basically admits to trolling. …which I’m inclined to believe, as he was pretty over the top with the “OMG you guys are such retards!!1!1” schtick. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599/6 "2015-01-12T11:28:30Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > The linked thread is funny, but in the end the guy basically admits to trolling. > …which I’m inclined to believe, as he was pretty over the top with the “OMG you guys are such retards!!1!1” schtick. Or he decided that pretending to be a troll was better than being outed as an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599/7 "2015-01-12T19:15:15Z")
I lost some braincells reading some of that, but it was worth it for the ultimate bodybuilder insult. > [@](#): > > You do have a lot to lose…bodyfat. I picture the exchange going down like “[your hair looks stupid](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAc_AM5UOjU#t=46)” from Anchorman. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bodybuilders-do-math-can-somebody-summarize-this-argument-within-some-fancy-math-or-logical-niche/709599/8 "2015-01-13T06:22:46Z")
Actually, _most_ of the respondents get it right, yet do a terribly obtuse job of explaining what they are trying to explain. And a lot of them never learnt to deal with fractions or averages. And a whole bunch of them can’t spell “moran”.