# Boehner - Obama trying to annihilate Repubs- Bitch & Moan, do something about it

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 24, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227 "2013-01-24T16:30:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![diggerwam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@diggerwam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diggerwam)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/1 "2013-01-24T16:30:29Z")

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Yeah, Mr Boehner, you are right. You gonna sit there like a bitch or are you gonna try to do something about it? Trust me, you would try to do it too if the situation was reversed.

Now repubs in general have got a choice, they need to change their positions to become more relevant/popular or they need to do a better job in selling their existing positions. Neither of which has to do with the Dems. Change comes from within.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says there has to be 2 parties or that the Repubs have to be one of them. You want to be relevant, you better be willing to fight & nail to get there again. You better figure out a way because nobody’s gonna do it for you.

It’s a brutal world out there. Quit your bitching and hand wringing and adapt.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/2 "2013-01-24T16:40:23Z")

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There is another way. They can change the rules regarding elections and gerrymander districts to retain power.

It will be interesting to see how long that strategy continues to keep Republicans voting Republican.

My guess is quite a while, since they appear to vote for party rather than position, policy or principle.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/3 "2013-01-24T17:17:30Z")

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Relax. Didn’t you hear? “Obama” is just code speak for Tea Party. And Mr. Boehner is right.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/4 "2013-01-24T17:36:03Z")

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Don’t forget the crying. Boehner’s got to stop that fuckin’ crying.

And the orange tan lotion. Either that or he should start adding black stripes to his face to improve the Tony the Tiger imitation.

Tony the Tiger doesn’t cry either.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/5 "2013-01-24T17:46:37Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Tony the Tiger doesn’t cry either.

Of course not. [He plays baseball.](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8BVcGoREYwc/TJbOtYjZulI/AAAAAAAAGww/2de-p_fE5lA/s1600/1992+Kelloggs+Frosted+Flakes+Baseball+Box.jpg)

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/6 "2013-01-24T18:38:31Z")

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I know it’s pronounced Bay-ner, but in my head he’ll always be Bo-ner.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/7 "2013-01-24T18:42:38Z")

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Nowadays it’s pronounced “whiner”.

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/8 "2013-01-24T19:28:04Z")

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I’m a Brit with a vague understanding of who Mr. Boehner is (Congress’s only Orange-American, right?). I’d like to know what this pit is about, but not to the extent of googling anything. Could someone explain, please? As in, on what occasion did Mr. Boehner imply or state that Obama was trying to annihilate Republicans, and what reasoning did he give for such implication/assertion?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/9 "2013-01-24T19:38:49Z")

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What makes you think he needs an occasion? Or a reason?

This seems to be the relevant quote:

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> “Given what we heard [Monday] about the President’s vision for his second term, it’s pretty clear to me that he knows he can’t do any of that as long as the House is controlled by Republicans,” Boehner said Tuesday. “So we’re expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the Republican Party.”

[Source](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/01/24/Boehner-Obama-plans-to-annihilate-GOP/UPI-58281359031285/)

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/10 "2013-01-25T00:07:44Z")

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> [@diggerwam](#):
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> \<snip\> Quit your bitching and hand wringing and adapt.

Butbutbut, that’s _ **EVOLUTION !** _

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/11 "2013-01-25T00:22:38Z")

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> “Given what we heard [Monday] about the President’s vision for his second term, it’s pretty clear to me that he knows he can’t do any of that as long as the House is controlled by Republicans,” Boehner said Tuesday. “So we’re expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the Republican Party.”

I think this is a classic case of projection.

As I recall, it was the Republicans who, 4 years ago, thought that the top priority was to make Obama a one term president.

Here’s a nice book from a conservative radio host:

[Painting the Map Red: The Fight to Create a Permanent Republican Majority](http://www.amazon.ca/Painting-Map-Red-Permanent-Republican/dp/0895260026)

They failed in their attempts; now they think that the Democrats will naturally have the same sleazy thinking.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/12 "2013-01-25T00:32:01Z")

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I sometimes forget how stupid most of the leftist posters on these boards are.

Boehner wasn’t whining and he was spot on. Obama put out a liberal wet dream in his inaugural, and the simple truth is aside from the things that can be done via executive order a large portion of it will in fact be impossible with a Republican House. Obama has one more Congress as President after the 113th, you can bet he’ll use all the political muscle he has to try and take back the House and make the 114th a Democratic controlled body. I see no reason anyone should doubt that, it’s what you’re supposed to do if you’re a Democrat President (same if the situation was reversed and you’re a Republican President.)

Also, the reality is our system will have two parties and it is structurally inclined to two parties. No, the GOP doesn’t have to be one of the two, and parties have replaced one another in the past. I think modern politics, with deep entrenchment now into the extant two parties means whatever changing the GOP does will result in, at some point in the indeterminate future (anywhere from 2 to 25 years or more, who knows) simply becoming a different party with the same name. There are two many structural problems with trying to truly replace one of the current parties so internal reform will just take over the existing party.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/13 "2013-01-25T00:35:24Z")

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I didn’t realize that trying to win a majority of seats in the House is the same as an “… attempt to annihilate the Republican Party.”

Thanks for clearing that up.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/14 "2013-01-25T00:39:12Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I didn’t realize that trying to win a majority of seats in the House is the same as an “… attempt to annihilate the Republican Party.”
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> Thanks for clearing that up.

an·ni·hi·late [ə n ə làyt]  
destroy something: to destroy something completely, especially so that it ceases to exist  
defeat somebody: to defeat somebody easily and decisively  
be destroyed in particle collision: to be mutually destroyed when a particle collides with a corresponding antiparticle

It can easily mean exactly that without it being silly or stupid. This is part and parcel of some of the mouthbreathers here on the SDMB wanting to find “stupidity” anytime a Republican opens their mouth. It was overblown rhetoric but no technical violation of the language and no evidence he was suggesting annihilate to mean “total destruction.” That’s one possible meaning of the word.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/15 "2013-01-25T00:44:39Z")

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> [@Thread title](#):
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> **Boehner - Obama trying to annihilate Repubs**

**kaylasdad99** - Does he need me to hold his jacket for him?

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/16 "2013-01-25T01:02:28Z")

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It’s their own damn fault that the GOP gets their asses handed to them, with the positions they’ve taken.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/17 "2013-01-25T01:20:23Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> Obama put out a liberal wet dream in his inaugural,

Yeah, sure. :rolleyes: Obama isn’t remotely liberal, and liberals typically despise him in my experience.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/18 "2013-01-25T01:35:05Z")

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Boehner’s an imbecile, preaching to his choir. The very last thing Obama wants is the annihilation of the Republican Party, because that might lead to something stronger and more viable rising up in its place. What he does want, I’d imagine, is to weaken it, to marginalize just a little more, to keep them gasping on the end of his fishing pole, trying to win elections with a decreasing proportion of rich, white jingoists and racists for a few more generations. Why annihilate? They’re his best bet for the future of the Democratic party.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/19 "2013-01-25T13:50:46Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> I sometimes forget how stupid most of the leftist posters on these boards are.

Back atcha. You do seem to have difficulty here grasping that the political discussions on this board are not as accurately categorizable as liberal-conservative as realist-fantasist.

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> Obama put out a liberal wet dream in his inaugural

What parts, for example, do you classify as a “wet dream” instead of simple realism and responsibility? :dubious:

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> and the simple truth is aside from the things that can be done via executive order a large portion of it will in fact be impossible with a Republican House.

Only if the Republican caucus remains united in loyalty to the obstructive absolutist approach with which they have so comprehensively failed, with no more than single digit number of them either recognizing their responsibilities to the nation or recognizing their desire to be re-elected by the people whose interests their party’s position does not align with. How confident are you of that?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boehner-obama-trying-to-annihilate-repubs-bitch-moan-do-something-about-it/648227/20 "2013-01-25T14:12:11Z")

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Actually, think he wants a Republican party that he can work with, and will bring useful ideas to the table, rather than one that game-says everything he says, even if it’s on something they had previously supported.

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