Boeing 777 loses power; glides to a safe landing

Bump.

Have there been any updates released on the cause of this accident?

Modern airliners are designed to be flown by two crew. The old crew functions of flight engineer, navigator, and radio operator have been gradually replaced by technology. Having said that, flight and duty limitations restrict the number of hours a pilot can work in a day and some airliners have an endurance that exceeds those limitations or the company may want to fly multiple sectors with the one crew. The regulations vary from country to country and even among individual companies, but generally speaking, the flight and duty limitations can be extended by providing extra crew members. Sometimes just one, or some countries may require a complete relief crew. Therefore you will normally have just two pilots on short flights and three or more on long international flights.

I believe this is the latest information. The gist of it is that there was plenty of fuel on board, located in suitable tanks and that the fuel had not frozen enroute. There was some damage to the fuel pumps.

Here is the final paragraph from the report:

I wonder how significant the debris found in the fuel tanks will turn out to be?

I wonder if this crash was the wakeup call that forced United Airlines to ground their entire fleet of 777s for safety inspections this week? And then there’s the story on how Southwest failed its safety inspections, pressured the FAA inspectors to look the other way but didn’t (but their superiors apparently did).

Thanks Death Ray. Very interesting reading.

No. The United grounding is related to missing inspections from fire-suppression systems, not fuel problems.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKN0236553820080403

Well, I certainly would consider ‘Not Crashing’ a fire suppression system! :smiley:

That was the first thing I thought of – the Gimli Glider. You beat me to it. :eek:

The folks on the Boeing 777 probably needed a collective change of pants. I would have. :eek:

Rysto beat you to it by 2 months, 2 weeks and some odd days.

:smack: That’ll teach me to not check the dates. :stuck_out_tongue:

Nevah mind. /Emily Litella

No worries. I agree.

Seeing as someone already resurrected this thread–

When I saw this pilot on TV speaking to the press, to my American ears he had the poshest accent I’ve ever heard this side of the Windsor family. My question for the English people here is, is my assessment accurate or do you think the accent is an affectation on his part?

Lots of people speak like that.

Heard the following from a guy in the aircraft industry, who says it comes from someone close to the investigation:

Investigators are now looking at the possibility that the problem was caused by a cellphone jammer operating on the ground near the final approach path. Some goverment official was traveling in a motorcade and it has become standard practice in such cases to carry a cellphone jammer with an effective range of a few hundred yards, to address the problem of a cellphone-triggered bomb. The 777’s FADEC (full-authority digital engine control) may have been influenced by this jamming signal, causing the engines to go to idle power.

I think we are into urban-myth territory here :- Hoax-Slayer

I note that your link says the validity of this not yet known and being investigated - which is what I was told.

The problem with that is that it’s also accurate to say that people spent years investigating the various conspiracy theory assassination theories about Diana’s death. Sometimes fruitbats come up with ideas that catch on, and have to be debunked, no matter how unrealistic they might appear to people involved in the investigation.

I’d be a lot more sympathetic to the theory if Hoax-Slayer weren’t saying that the only public figure associated with it is the woman who wrote this book. I cannot take seriously anyone making any kind of doomsday on schedule predictions. Especially when they’re claiming to support their theory by alluding to how their scenario was what destroyed Atlantis.

Cellphone jammers are apparently widely used in Iraq and Afghanistan for this purpose.

That would be our beloved Prime Minister, Bottler Brown.

Is there someone from Boeing who can comment on this possibility? I’ve got to assume that part of aircraft environmentals involve EMC/EMI testing.

In the deep South of Thailand, too, by the military. We’ve had a Muslim insurrection in the Muslim-majority provinces near Malaysia for three years now, with more than 3000 dead. Cellphone-triggered bombs are a favorite. The army will deploy these jammers if one bomb has gone off, because there’s often a second one waiting for the response to the first one to show up. But I have no idea of the mechanics involved or if this would be the same thing.