# Bombs keep turning up at prominent Democrats houses

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 24, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428 "2018-10-24T13:52:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/181 "2018-10-25T18:19:10Z")

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Relax everybody. The key lesson to be learned from these bombs and pro-violence Trump rhetoric is that …

> [@octopus](#):
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> Violence directed at political opponents is bad. Sad that that is not a universal sentiment and is actually disputed even on these boards depending on the target.

… liberals are hypocrites.

Hey **octopus** :— So the intended victims of a madman are his “political opponents”? I wonder if you have the wits to see what that phrasing says about you.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/182 "2018-10-25T18:21:02Z")

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> [@dba\_Fred](#):
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> Don’t bring an Occam’s Razor to a bomb fight.

🙂

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/183 "2018-10-25T18:49:12Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Relax everybody. The key lesson to be learned from these bombs and pro-violence Trump rhetoric is that …  
> … liberals are hypocrites.
> 
> Hey **octopus** :— So the intended victims of a madman are his “political opponents”? I wonder if you have the wits to see what that phrasing says about you.

Since I don’t advocate violence as a response to political disagreement, unlike many of the unhinged on this board, the phrasing says I’m intellectually consistent. Unlike many of the unhinged on this board.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/184 "2018-10-25T18:53:47Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> So the tweet\*\* eschereal\*\* quoted was right. Also, either Vox misspelled git or the bomber did.

You cannot make out that part of the image on the bomb, but the tweet shows the source image. “Git” was my error.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/185 "2018-10-25T18:55:20Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> This poster is the only active Doper on my Ignore list. Thanks for reminding me why, I guess.

You have me on Ignore because you are an intellectual coward, and you quote me and then announce that you have me on Ignore because you are passive-aggressive.

Maybe someone will quote me so you will get the reminder. Maybe not, and that’s OK - laughing at you behind your back is not invalidated by the fact that you turned your own back.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/186 "2018-10-25T18:57:07Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> It is true, I tried it. Obviously the line is recognized by the translator, even though it is otherwise gibberish. It is one of them Easter Egg thingies.
> 
> (I can get a quick translation with a pop-up menu on selected text, but that one does not say “[fatal error]”.)

“When is the Nunstruck git and Slotermeyer? Yes! … or the flipperwaldt gersput!  
Reply With Quote”

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/187 "2018-10-25T19:02:27Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> You have me on Ignore because you are an intellectual coward, and you quote me and then announce that you have me on Ignore because you are passive-aggressive.

:dubious: Um, **Shodan** , this retort is not exactly conveying the tone of crushing contempt you maybe hoped it would project. More like “butthurt snowflake miffed about being ignored by somebody he claims to feel superior to”.

I recommend instead quietly embracing the advantages of being ignored, such as (a) increased opportunities to have the last word and (b) fewer temptations to prolonged argument.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/188 "2018-10-25T19:13:31Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> “When is the Nunstruck git and Slotermeyer? Yes! … or the flipperwaldt gersput!  
> Reply With Quote”

“Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimbel in the wabe…”

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/189 "2018-10-25T19:17:49Z")

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> This from the party that can’t even repeal Obama care. And you think they’re gonna repeal the 1st Amendment? Please.

They haven’t repealed it yet. They haven’t stopped trying.

I don’t think it is possible to feel too alarmed. Not any more.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/190 "2018-10-25T19:19:25Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> “Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimbel in the wabe…”

And, as in uffish thought he stood,  
The Jabbertrump, with hair of flame,  
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,  
And burbled as it came!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/191 "2018-10-25T19:32:41Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Since I don’t advocate violence as a response to political disagreement, unlike many of the unhinged on this board, the phrasing says I’m intellectually consistent. Unlike many of the unhinged on this board.

Please enumerate these “many”. I have seen a lot of froth from **asahi** , but even he is mostly not advocating violence as a political tool.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/192 "2018-10-25T19:46:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Donald Trump, in a public speech at one of his rallies_  
> We want all sides to come together in peace and harmony…Those engaged in the political arena must stop treating political opponents as being morally defective.

Well, yes, Mr. President, that’s–

> [@](#):
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> _Donald Trump, in a public speech at one of his rallies_  
> By the way, do you see how nice I’m behaving today? Have you ever seen this?

**JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! _WHAT THE FUCKING HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?_**

Any day now, the (weirdly-colored, too-orange, not-quite-realistic) skin suit is going to burst and a bunch of alien bugs are going to come spilling out. (But, hey, the swarm of ravenous worm-like creatures from somewhere beyond the lightless gulfs of space that have seized power in our country is still better’n Hilliary, amirite? _Benghazi!_)

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/193 "2018-10-25T19:50:26Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> You have me on Ignore because you are an intellectual coward, and you quote me and then announce that you have me on Ignore because you are passive-aggressive.

You may want to take a refresher on what “passive aggressive” means.

Regards.

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/194 "2018-10-25T19:55:31Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> They haven’t repealed it yet. They haven’t stopped trying.
> 
> I don’t think it is possible to feel too alarmed. Not any more.

Maybe not. But it is also possible to chicken little and cry wolf to the point where real threats go unnoticed.

When a conservative speaker like Ben Shapiro can speak at Berkeley without requiring [$600K in protection](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/15/us/california-today-price-tag-to-protect-speech-at-berkeley-600000.html), then I’ll get alarmed about how the right are the great speech suppressors. Show me anything like that happening to liberal speakers in the U.S. AFACT liberals can protest all they want and nobody’s shutting them down.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/195 "2018-10-25T20:01:23Z")

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> AFACT liberals can protest all they want and nobody’s shutting them down.

James Alex Fields Jr. can’t try and shut them down any_more_, true, but only because he’s in jail for killing one and injuring/maiming almost 2 dozen other liberal protestors.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/196 "2018-10-25T20:32:03Z")

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> [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](#):
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> A suspicious package intercepted at the white house. Going to be a long news day. The caravan won’t be front and center anymore.

The Secret Service has already debunked that “report”

> [@asahi](#):
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> Are they really saying this shit? Oh wait, you meant the internet comments, right? I can’t believe that Fox N Friends people are quite that flapping, fluttering, flittering, spittling bat shit insane - at least not yet. Hannity? Maybe.

Yes they are saying this shit…. Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, etc

> [@Scylla](#):
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> Just heard on the radio that they intercepted one at the White House.

Nope. See above.

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Turns out that was a lie. Seth Abramson said, No word on which “official” lied and said there was to wrongly cast today’s attempted terrorist attacks as bipartisan.  
> [https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1055135453114966016](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1055135453114966016)

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Is everyone ready to hear that this was just the work of one (or a few) bad apples and not reflective of the GOP as a whole? I mean, cops say it all the time and it works, right?

I’m already hearing that from co-workers. WE are an angry dangerous mob. They just have a “lone wolf” or one “bad apple”.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> 41 abortion center bombings say otherwise. And didn’t the Unabomber rant against Leftists?

But again, WE are the angry mob.

> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> CNN reporting Maxine Waters got one to her as well. I wonder if there’s a pattern here.

They are ALL people Trump has attacked and demonized.

> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> Fuck you to everyone who pretended that Eric Holder’s, “When they go low we kick them,” remark was a call for mob violence. In context it obviously was not, but you kept beating that drum and now someone tried to murder him.  
> Seriously, fuck you. I mean this generally, but I am also specifically directing this at, at least two, specific posters on this board who were pushing this.

Bombs and attempted murder and domestic terror are OK. But failing to kiss ass in an adequate manner will not be tolerated. Civility is one of those one-way streets.

> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> De Niro should not have told Trump to go get his fucking shine box

WINNER!!!

> [@asahi](#):
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> Predictably, conservatives are refusing to acknowledge that their hostile and vitriolic rhetoric is playing a role in inciting real-world violence. The usual “both sides do it” tripe. … whatever bullshit Alex Jones is peddling. … They don’t want to give up their prejudices, because to do so means giving up their sense of superiority. They don’t want to change, they want YOU to change. They want others to live on THEIR terms, and if people resist, then they’d just as soon condemn them to hell for it. … They’re not just friendly, harmless folk who live in the suburbs. What’s inside their heads will disturb you once you scratch beneath the surface.

But see, they are against PC and are just “tellin’ it like it is”. But when YOU do it, you are being uncivil and doing bad discourse (or something) and “bringing it on yourself”.

So fuck them all.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/197 "2018-10-25T20:39:11Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> :dubious: Um, **Shodan** , this retort is not exactly conveying the tone of crushing contempt you maybe hoped it would project. More like “butthurt snowflake miffed about being ignored by somebody he claims to feel superior to”.
> 
> I recommend instead quietly embracing the advantages of being ignored, such as (a) increased opportunities to have the last word and (b) fewer temptations to prolonged argument.

TL;DR.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/198 "2018-10-25T21:06:34Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Please enumerate these “many”. I have seen a lot of froth from **asahi** , but even he is mostly not advocating violence as a political tool.

For the record, I never called for violence - that was Happy Lendervedder’s interpretation of my comments.

A week or so ago, under the influence of some booze, I think I said maybe it’s time to “get nasty.” Republicans - not just trolls on the internet but elected officials and shock jock talk show hosts with millions of brainwashed and easily influenced followers - have been increasingly winking and nodding over the years about violence. We hear about “2nd Amendment solutions” and talks of “civil war” and how 'Heh! The military’s on our side and we’re NRA members, so we’d probably kick librul butt in a war." We hear that shit all the fucking time. And let’s be real: they say this shit to intimidate others. Like the suspected mail bomber, they probably don’t want a thing to do with an actual war, but they like the idea of bullying and intimidating others because it makes these pathetic fucks feel powerful. They enjoy shouting people down because they assume that anyone who disagrees with them is a pussy. And it makes them feel powerful and big, and superior, and that’s what they identify with.

What does being ‘nasty’ mean? Being “nasty” means enough of that shit. I leave people alone. I live and let live, but someone shouts me down and I’m going to shout right the fuck back. I’m going to give them some intimidation back. I’m not gonna back up or back down. I’m done trying to be civil, done trying to find common ground. There is no common ground with people like that. But most progressives here already seem to understand that, and sorry Lendervedder, not to keep reeling you back into this, but I give my fellow frustrated progressives credit enough to understand that a few raw rants aren’t going to induce anyone here into lawlessness. I’m just saying, let’s stop pretending that we can have dialog with these idiots. They’re American ‘brown shirts’ - I agree, that’s not a nice thing to say, but you know what? These are not nice people. If they don’t want that label, then maybe think about why that label exists and whether or not they’re comfortable associating with gutter politics and demonization of the ‘other’. Their value system is fucked up. They don’t want equality. They don’t even want equal opportunity. And worst of all, they have some fraudulent interpretation of the Bible that sanctions it all.

To the so-called ‘independents,’ ‘moderates’ and centrists…you all need to pick a side. What kind of country do you want to live in - one in which people receive bombs in the mail for their political views? One in which militias roam around and terrorize people in small town America and local law enforcement turns the other way? Stop believing this ‘both sides’ shit. Wake up. Take sides. Take a stand against fake piety and stand up to fake warriors.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/199 "2018-10-25T21:33:29Z")

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I think they find the guy within a week , 2 weeks at most .

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/200 "2018-10-25T21:56:02Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> You cannot make out that part of the image on the bomb, but the tweet shows the source image. “Git” was my error.

I had to go googling to check.

Result -

Larry the Cable Guy always uses git. The images online of the modified ISIS flag include GET. So Vox was quoting correctly and whoever parodied the flag was either trying to stay closer to the original shapes or just misquoted poor Larry.

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