# Bombs keep turning up at prominent Democrats houses

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 24, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428 "2018-10-24T13:52:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/81 "2018-10-24T20:22:31Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [this image](https://magaimg.net/img/6jhh.jpg) shows a bomb pulled out of the package. It looks like there may be some Arabic lettering on it, and/or perhaps the graphic device from the Iranian flag.

Looks like an ISIS flag. Do we know that image is legit? (Will be interesting if the dude put an ISIS flag and an Iran flag in the same package–no better proof of a Fox News watcher than that.)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/82 "2018-10-24T20:43:57Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> Looks like an ISIS flag. Do we know that image is legit? (Will be interesting if the dude put an ISIS flag and an Iran flag in the same package–no better proof of a Fox News watcher than that.)

Are we seeing the same image? Looks like an American flag to me. Six of them. We are looking at it upside down.

> **[USPS FOREVER STAMPS Coil of 100 Postage Stamps Stamp Design May Vary - Office...](https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/898782/USPS-FOREVER-STAMPS-Coil-of-100/?cm_mmc=PLA-_-Google-_-Mailing_Packing_Shipping-_-898782&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsMDeBRDMARIsAKrOP7FBA63ghd7ZVV1gguHGMeZuplXnLR5tmND398ngQIqUvdN5EP8sLWMaAsOTEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)**
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> Make sure you have postage you can count on whenever you end up needing it. FOREVER stamps allow you to mail on your own schedule making them great for the home and office alike.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/83 "2018-10-24T20:45:27Z")

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My reference to Iran was about \*\*eschereal’s \*\*post referencing the Iranian flag.

I think the ISIS flag seems pretty clear in that photo, but it is unclear what is next to it. Might well be a US flag.

ETA: We’re not talking about the stamps. We’re talking about the stuff on the device itself.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/84 "2018-10-24T20:47:09Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Are we seeing the same image? Looks like an American flag to me. Six of them. We are looking at it upside down.
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> [https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/898782/USPS-FOREVER-STAMPS-Coil-of-100/?cm\_mmc=PLA-\_-Google-\_-Mailing\_Packing\_Shipping-\_-898782&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsMDeBRDMARIsAKrOP7FBA63ghd7ZVV1gguHGMeZuplXnLR5tmND398ngQIqUvdN5EP8sLWMaAsOTEALw\_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds](https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/898782/USPS-FOREVER-STAMPS-Coil-of-100/?cm_mmc=PLA-_-Google-_-Mailing_Packing_Shipping-_-898782&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsMDeBRDMARIsAKrOP7FBA63ghd7ZVV1gguHGMeZuplXnLR5tmND398ngQIqUvdN5EP8sLWMaAsOTEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)

He’s not talking about the stamp, but the graphic(s) on the pipe bomb itself. A diamond shape to the right and white writing or icons on the left.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/85 "2018-10-24T20:57:20Z")

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Ah, [this tweet](https://mobile.twitter.com/emnemjane/status/1055191049914658816) claims that the image on the bomb is a parody Da’esh flag, with naked girl silhouettes in the middle and “git er done” in fancy script in the white circle.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/86 "2018-10-24T21:05:50Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [this image](https://magaimg.net/img/6jhh.jpg) shows a bomb pulled out of the package. It looks like there may be some Arabic lettering on it, and/or perhaps the graphic device from the Iranian flag.

The New York Times has a larger version in it’s article here: [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html)

I don’t think that’s Arabic lettering on the bomb, but maybe it’s stylized. I expect we’ll hear later.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/87 "2018-10-24T21:18:54Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> No, the picture I saw had a return address of “Florids”.

They put that stuff in yer water to make you steril!

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/88 "2018-10-24T21:34:09Z")

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Is there even the faintest possibility that Islamic extremists are responsible for this? ISIS terrorists would surely want people to _believe_ they are responsible, and targeting just Democrats is going to make anyone other than MAGA-hatters highly skeptical that it’s ISIS.

Still, I’m sure that won’t stop Trump saying that it’s a possibility.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/89 "2018-10-24T21:40:53Z")

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I feel like I’m living in a flashback for The Handmaid’s Tale.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/90 "2018-10-24T21:44:29Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [this image](https://magaimg.net/img/6jhh.jpg) shows a bomb pulled out of the package. It looks like there may be some Arabic lettering on it, and/or perhaps the graphic device from the Iranian flag.

Reporting without further commentary that the domain you’re getting that from is **MAGA** [img.net](http://img.net), created by /r/The\_Donald, radical right-wing subreddit on Reddit to support Donald Trump, the GOP, and insane fuckery in general.

[Also, in attempt to forestall “false flag” calls, two-thirds of terrorism in the US as been linked to Radical Christianity and allied ideologies](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/12/study-shows-two-thirds-us-terrorism-tied-right-wing-extremists):

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> “A Quartz analysis of the database shows that almost two-thirds of terror attacks in the (United States) last year were tied to racist, anti-Muslim, homophobic, anti-Semitic, fascist, anti-government, or xenophobic motivations,” its posting says.
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> The remaining attacks, the web site said, “were driven by left-wing ideologies … and Islamic extremism.”

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/91 "2018-10-24T21:57:23Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Reporting without further commentary that the domain you’re getting that from is **MAGA** [img.net](http://img.net), created by /r/The\_Donald, radical right-wing subreddit on Reddit to support Donald Trump, the GOP, and insane fuckery in general.

I say nothing about the dignity of the source of that image, but that’s the same image (as far as I can see) unaltered from the one used on CNN and NYTimes.

The following is NOT a serious theory!

As an author and avid mystery reader, if I were creating this as a story, I’d be looking very carefully at…

[spoiler]Eric Holder. Or better yet, his wife.

Think about it. Cui bono? Of all the addressees, Holder is the only one who:

a) Is clearly making a bid for 2020 and has been popping up out of nowhere over the past two weeks;

b) Is the only person whose package was misdirected;

c) Has not been famously dissed by Trump and so really doesn’t belong in the group;

d) Has now been elevated into the public eye as an equal among the others.

Yep, I’d be looking at Holder, his wife (assuming he’s married), _or_, depending how tricky I wanna be, it’d be a double-double bluff and would turn out to be someone else who wants to deflect the blame onto Holder and bump him out of the 2020 race–maybe Elizabeth Warren: least likely suspect indeed.[/spoiler]

But for real… I wonder if they’ll get all the envelopes together and check for any hint of DNA that’s common to each (all that cellophane tape can be pretty sticky).

Damn I need to stop watching _Cold Justice._

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/92 "2018-10-24T22:00:07Z")

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Next to the squiggly text is a picture of a face with a red “X” slashed over it. Looks kind of like W, not that that makes any sense.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/93 "2018-10-24T22:05:27Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> The New York Times has a larger version in it’s article here: [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html)
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> I don’t think that’s Arabic lettering on the bomb, but maybe it’s stylized. I expect we’ll hear later.

I am arabophone.

From the image of the New York Times it is not properly written Arabic script, or the properly written [DAECH flag as here is linked](https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-islamic-state-of-iraq-and-the-levant-also-known-as-the-islamic-89955123.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=6C431AE0-F327-42F0-8794-27BAEAACCC0A&p=28438&n=0&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d0%26pn%3d1%26ps%3d100%26sortby%3d2%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26npgs%3d0%26qt%3disis%2520flag%26qt_raw%3disis%2520flag%26lic%3d3%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26ot%3d0%26creative%3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26pc%3d%26blackwhite%3d%26cutout%3d%26tbar%3d1%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d%26size%3d0xFF%26archive%3d1%26groupid%3d%26pseudoid%3d%26a%3d%26cdid%3d%26cdsrt%3d%26name%3d%26qn%3d%26apalib%3d%26apalic%3d%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d%26gtype%3d%26xstx%3d0%26simid%3d%26saveQry%3d%26editorial%3d1%26nu%3d%26t%3d%26edoptin%3d%26customgeoip%3d%26cap%3d1%26cbstore%3d1%26vd%3d0%26lb%3d%26fi%3d2%26edrf%3d%26ispremium%3d1%26flip%3d0). It does appear to be the p[arody flag that is linked above to the Twitter account](https://mobile.twitter.com/emnemjane/status/1055191049914658816). The first part as reading in the arabic from the right is nonsense and can not be read as the proper La ila. The middle is not sensible, only Lah part of Allah is correctly formed, the part that should be the Aliph is blobbish and is in no way potentially correct.

The only way this could be seriously presented as a DAECH flag by the bomber is if the person who used it was of the poorest literacy and could not make the difference between the actual DAECH flag and the parody one that this seems clearly to be identical or near identical to it.

> [@Riemann](#):
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> Is there even the faintest possibility that Islamic extremists are responsible for this? .

If it were a DAECH sympahtisant who was basically almost the illiterate maybe such a person could chose the parody by an accident…

But that does not seem very likely as even the self-radicalized as the saying goes, they seem consistently to get so via the internet chat rooms, and being guided via internet. It would be expected that such symbolism as the proper flag, which is in fact very important to the DAECH as it repeats the holy islamic phrases, No God But God and Mohamed is His Prophet - things that the DAECH take seriously (as do all practiciing Muslims, but the DAECH in particular are attaching serious importance to the proper adherence, even repeating in the archaic script style they prefer the supposed manner of writing of the Salaf.

It is also the case that this list of people who have received these packages, they are a purely american domestic politics list, and one that does not make sense to me from the Islamist concerns and politics I know.

The more sensible hypotheses are then either it is a delibreate mocking or it is an illiterate attempt like you had in the days of your anthrax mailings to pretend to lay a blame on the islamic radicals.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/94 "2018-10-24T22:09:36Z")

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By the way…remember the Monty Python bit about the joke that was so funny that everyone who heard it died laughing? Trump may have matched that today. I’ll use a spoiler. Don’t say you weren’t warned:

> [@](#):
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> In these times, we have to unify, we have to come together.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/95 "2018-10-24T22:28:13Z")

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_Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! … Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!_

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/96 "2018-10-24T22:39:07Z")

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Heh. Ask Google to translate

> [@](#):
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> _Wenn ist das Nunstuck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! … Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!_

and it returns [FATAL ERROR]!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/97 "2018-10-24T22:40:53Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> By the way…remember the Monty Python bit about the joke that was so funny that everyone who heard it died laughing? Trump may have matched that today. I’ll use a spoiler. Don’t say you weren’t warned:
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> > [@](#):
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> > In these times, we have to unify, we have to come together.

He’s just calling for a Republican circle jerk.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/98 "2018-10-24T22:50:53Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Is there even the faintest possibility that Islamic extremists are responsible for this? ISIS terrorists would surely want people to _believe_ they are responsible, and targeting just Democrats is going to make anyone other than MAGA-hatters highly skeptical that it’s ISIS.
> 
> Still, I’m sure that won’t stop Trump saying that it’s a possibility.

Geez, they don’t even need to bother! Why lift a finger when it’s all being done right here at home?

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/99 "2018-10-24T23:30:38Z")

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Hey, FBI?

The bomber will be in the front row of one of Traitor Trump’s rallies.

That should narrow the field somewhat.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/100 "2018-10-24T23:39:52Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Geez, they don’t even need to bother! Why lift a finger when it’s all being done right here at home?

The War on Terror is over. Terror takes its place on the winners’ podium, next to Drugs. Eventually we will figure out that wars of this kind (and most others) are a fools enterprise.

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