# Bombs keep turning up at prominent Democrats houses **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428 "2018-10-24T13:52:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/161 "2018-10-25T15:29:33Z")
So… Ten so far. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/162 "2018-10-25T15:41:20Z")
I’m waiting for the 1st amendment to be repealed so journalists can be lined up and shot. Oh, you really don’t think that’s what they want? ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/163 "2018-10-25T15:55:17Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > I’m waiting for the 1st amendment to be repealed so journalists can be lined up and shot. > > Oh, you really don’t think that’s what they want? This from the party that can’t even repeal Obama care. And you think they’re gonna repeal the 1st Amendment? Please. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/164 "2018-10-25T16:00:52Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > …Wheels within wheels… Voices within heads. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/165 "2018-10-25T16:14:20Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Did many of the intended recipients actually try to open them? My impression is that most were intercepted by authorities who had experts open them. > > The ones that weren’t intercepted were reported to authorities by the recipients without being opened. > > Am I wrong about that? That’s what I thought, I was going to post the same thing you did. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/166 "2018-10-25T16:21:04Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > This from the party that can’t even repeal Obama care. And you think they’re gonna repeal the 1st Amendment? Please. They don’t have to. They’ve put enough firebrands on the Supreme Court who can interpret the First Amendment out of existence. Someday, only Fox will be allowed to survive, the others will be shut down as “enemies of the people”. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/167 "2018-10-25T16:27:16Z")
Violence directed at political opponents is bad. Sad that that is not a universal sentiment and is actually disputed even on these boards depending on the target. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/168 "2018-10-25T16:35:41Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > That’s what I thought, I was going to post the same thing you did. There seem to be contradictory narratives. I keep hearing about authorities intercepting unopened packages and I’m seeing x-rays of unopened packages, but it seems like everyone is wondering why they didn’t explode. Maybe some were opened and some weren’t. That must be what’s happening. But it seems like the initial ones were intercepted at special remote facilities where there are trained people who wouldn’t just carelessly open something suspicious. Then, once those were in the news presumably nobody would open anything suspicious they received. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/169 "2018-10-25T16:38:53Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Violence directed at political opponents is bad. Sad that that is not a universal sentiment and is actually disputed even on these boards depending on the target. Far sadder than the views of random internet people is the fact that the President has encouraged violence against progressives and celebrated violence against a journalist. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/170 "2018-10-25T16:39:54Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > **HurricaneDitka** is the one who started a thread on Trump’s “mobs - jobs” quote. He especially liked it “because it rhymed.” This human turd is by far the stupidest Trumpist posting here. I concur that there’s little candlepower in that noggin, but he’s at least one **doorhinge** away from the top spot. Until he retires, nobody has a chance. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/171 "2018-10-25T17:08:40Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > This poster is the only active Doper on my Ignore list. Thanks for reminding me why, I guess. Hey, I tried putting the Cheeto-Faced ShitGibbon on my ignore list, but people keep quoting him. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/172 "2018-10-25T17:23:46Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Did many of the intended recipients actually try to open them? My impression is that most were intercepted by authorities who had experts open them. > > The ones that weren’t intercepted were reported to authorities by the recipients without being opened. > > Am I wrong about that? I’m guessing that none of the recipients open their own mail. In fact I’d guess that some of them have their mail vetted routinely before it’s opened. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > Heh. Ask Google to translate and it returns [FATAL ERROR]! I’m not going to check on that because I really want it to be true. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/173 "2018-10-25T17:39:29Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Gotta say that’s some piss-poor sneaking, being repeatedly photographed in groups of 5000 or so like that. One of my darling co-workers referred to the caravan as an army this morning, and implied that we’re now being invaded, but it’s ok because the Orange Numpty (my words, not his) is sending the military to the border. > [@guizot](#): > > Well, yes, of course. Everyone knows that Hondurans are actually ISIS terrorists in disguise. I’ve been informed by various family members that some of the Hondurans are genuine, and are just coming to vote illegally and steal our jobs. Wonder if they got invited to the party too? > [@E-DUB](#): > > The all-caps is a nice touch. Gives it that _authentic_ loon look. Thanks! 🙂 Unfortunately I’m related to, and Facebook friends with, enough loons to achieve that authenticity. I could just defriend them, but then how would I find out who got married or who died? ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/174 "2018-10-25T17:39:53Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > They don’t have to. They’ve put enough firebrands on the Supreme Court who can interpret the First Amendment out of existence. Someday, only Fox will be allowed to survive, the others will be shut down as “enemies of the people”. Your clarification is no less outlandish. Seriously, do you actually believe this? Because, if so, you’re the poster child of the fringe college student everybody says isn’t representative of the democratic party. Honestly, if you actually believe the supreme court is getting ready allow all reporters to lined up and shot, that’s a call to action to a nutter to do something about the supreme court, just as much as anything anybody else said. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/175 "2018-10-25T17:47:04Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > I’m not going to check on that because I really want it to be true. It is true, I tried it. Obviously the line is recognized by the translator, even though it is otherwise gibberish. It is one of them Easter Egg thingies. (I can get a quick translation with a pop-up menu on selected text, but that one does not say “[fatal error]”.) ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/176 "2018-10-25T17:53:04Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > . . . [Vox has a solid explainer on the topic](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/24/18018256/explosive-device-bomb-clinton-obama-cnn-soros): the best part came at the end: > [INDENT] **What we don’t know** > > ``` > The full list of who was sent packages. > The identity of the sender or senders. > Their motive(s). > Details about the explosive devices themselves. > Whether all of the incidents and devices are related. > > ``` > > [/INDENT] That’s good reporting. The Vox article says: > [@](#): > > The bombs were decorated with a sticker that was a parody of the ISIS flag with the phrase “Get Er Done,” . . . So the tweet\*\* eschereal\*\* quoted was right. Also, either Vox misspelled git or the bomber did. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/177 "2018-10-25T17:58:57Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > Let’s not rule out that this could be orchestrated by someone on the left to motivate the base. > [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > It could be the migrants. I discussed the false flag hypothesis in post 109. We can’t rule out anything, because this is the work of an individual wacko. But I think it’s reasonable to conjecture that the perp is familiar with the right wing lizard brain Breitosphere. If it’s false flag, the guy has done his research (smart!) _and_ doesn’t realize that terror attacks tend to benefit the more authoritarian party (stupid!). ## Individuals can be both smart and stupid: it happens. But generally speaking they are one or the other. I vote for stupid Breitbart influenced psycho. Let’s not forget: the alt-right has [killed over 100 Americans](https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people). Over the past several years lefties have killed [about 2](https://twitter.com/DavidNeiwert/status/1051982000020582401). The propensity to violence is not distributed evenly on both sides. [Thread by @DavidNeiwert on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1051973730824409088.html) ## Trump regularly jokes about violence against his opponents. Words have effects. Incivility is a red herring: the normalization of violence and the refusal of the President to police his language _to the extent of every previous seated President_ is the issue. [Civility and Decency are a Dodge to Duck What’s Really Happening with Trump - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/civility-and-decency-are-a-dodge-to-duck-whats-really-happening-with-trump) ETA: News article on fake ISIS flag: [Bomber From the World of Pepe The Frog - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/bomber-from-the-world-of-pepe-the-frog) ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/178 "2018-10-25T18:05:30Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Occam’s Razor cuts straight. That’s the whole point. Don’t bring an Occam’s Razor to a bomb fight. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/179 "2018-10-25T18:08:45Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Over the past several years lefties have killed [about 2](https://twitter.com/DavidNeiwert/status/1051982000020582401). I don’t think either of those incidents resulted in any deaths (edit: other than the shooter in the second incident, so not really a leftist killing) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428/180 "2018-10-25T18:17:15Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I don’t think either of those incidents resulted in any deaths (edit: other than the shooter in the second incident, so not really a leftist killing) Good point, I should have said incidents. But then I’m comparing incidents to fatalities which isn’t apples to apples. Let’s try setting some odds. The background probability for leftie violence is about 2/100. Round that up to 8% given the preceding. Assume 80% of lone perps are either dumb (more likely) or smart, but not both at the same time. That reduces our 8% probability to 1.6% or “less than 5%” in round numbers. So that’s my probability of false-flag: less than 5%. BTW, Vox has an article on the appeal of the False Flag concept among right wing conservative commentators. I’ve only skimmed it. [Clintons, Obamas, Soros sent explosive devices: “false flags,” explained - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2018/10/25/18018606/false-flags-clinton-soros-alex-jones-infowars-cnn) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bombs-keep-turning-up-at-prominent-democrats-houses/823428.md?page=10)