# Bone on Legal Murder of unborn Child **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 19, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bone-on-legal-murder-of-unborn-child/775162 "2016-12-19T18:10:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bone-on-legal-murder-of-unborn-child/775162/1 "2016-12-19T18:10:26Z")
Post 198: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=813677&page=4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=813677&page=4) \*\*Bone Moderator \*\* \*Moderating Can we not make “legally murder an unborn child” a thing? First off, it’s definitionally incorrect because murder is illegal. Second, it’s really unnecessarily inflammatory. [/moderating]\* Altho I appreciate the sentiment, this _was_ posted in Elections. The GOP does want to make abortion into a crime, in some cases equivalent to the “murder of a unborn child”. It is totally inflammatory, agreed, but not \* unnecessarily\*\_ it shows the political viewpoints of a poster in the correct forum for such. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bone-on-legal-murder-of-unborn-child/775162/2 "2016-12-19T19:15:49Z")
Do people really see that statement as “inflammatory”. I’m about as pro-choice as you can get, and it doesn’t bother me if the other side wants to use that language. It is, after all, what they believe. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bone-on-legal-murder-of-unborn-child/775162/3 "2016-12-19T19:21:11Z")
It’s an inflammatory turd dropped into a thread that really wasn’t about abortion at all, simply for the poster to annoy his political opponents. I’m not sure it reaches the stage of violating the “don’t be a jerk” rule, but a little admonishment to “don’t be so juvenile” doesn’t hurt anyone. ETA: especially AFTER a mod note to another poster to stop an attack on other posters, in which the phrase “I want to end the mass murder of babies” was used. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bone-on-legal-murder-of-unborn-child/775162/4 "2016-12-22T14:19:25Z")
The “legally murder an unborn child” was in response to this - > [@Translucent Daydream](#): > > So the cliffs notes version of what I’m reading here is people chose to throw away my wife’s health care and access to a medically necessary abortion for… guns? So it is on-topic AFAICT. The notion that it is "definitionally incorrect is, I think, invalid. ‘Murder’ is both a legal, and a moral concept. “Legally murder” makes it pretty clear that **doorhinge** was talking about the moral aspect. As far as “unnecessarily inflammatory”, I trust I don’t need to produce cites for all the times that the police/George W. Bush/Hillary Clinton/practically anyone has been accused of murder. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bone-on-legal-murder-of-unborn-child/775162/5 "2016-12-22T21:20:14Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The “legally murder an unborn child” was in response to this -So it is on-topic AFAICT. > > The notion that it is "definitionally incorrect is, I think, invalid. ‘Murder’ is both a legal, and a moral concept. “Legally murder” makes it pretty clear that **doorhinge** was talking about the moral aspect. > > As far as “unnecessarily inflammatory”, I trust I don’t need to produce cites for all the times that the police/George W. Bush/Hillary Clinton/practically anyone has been accused of murder. A few things: [ul] [li]I think abortion itself could be on topic in that thread - I made no statement about a hijack or lack thereof. I saw it as a riff on the comment in post #50: _“I want to end the mass murder of babies”._[/li][li]There may be a moral concept of murder, but that is not the most common definition. I’m not persuaded by context that the moral aspect was being introduced. Based on that interpretation[/li][li]Many people accuse or imply public figures are murderers, or all kinds of terrible people. That is a wholly different thing when directed the sentiment at a poster on this board. An accusation wasn’t made, though the comment was directed specifically at a poster on this board.[/li][/ul] > [@DrDeth](#): > > Altho I appreciate the sentiment, this _was_ posted in Elections. The GOP does want to make abortion into a crime, in some cases equivalent to the “murder of a unborn child”. > > It is totally inflammatory, agreed, but not \* unnecessarily\*\_ it shows the political viewpoints of a poster in the correct forum for such. I acknowledge your feedback. I see a few different reasons for giving mod notes. One of them is to provide in-thread guidance as an effort to steer threads away from turning into unproductive sniping. In this case I felt that the comment in the context it was written had the potential to do this and wanted to head off that potential outcome. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bone-on-legal-murder-of-unborn-child/775162/6 "2016-12-22T21:44:09Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > A few things: > [ul] > [li]I think abortion itself could be on topic in that thread - I made no statement about a hijack or lack thereof. I saw it as a riff on the comment in post #50: _“I want to end the mass murder of babies”._[/li][li]There may be a moral concept of murder, but that is not the most common definition. I’m not persuaded by context that the moral aspect was being introduced. Based on that interpretation[/li][li]Many people accuse or imply public figures are murderers, or all kinds of terrible people. That is a wholly different thing when directed the sentiment at a poster on this board. An accusation wasn’t made, though the comment was directed specifically at a poster on this board.[/li][/ul] > I acknowledge your feedback. > > I see a few different reasons for giving mod notes. One of them is to provide in-thread guidance as an effort to steer threads away from turning into unproductive sniping. In this case I felt that the comment in the context it was written had the potential to do this and wanted to head off that potential outcome. I thought you were being quite reasonable. And i could see it getting out of control. Just that Mod Notes can be used to give warnings five pages later. 😛