# "Boobs on the ground"? Seriously?!! (snarl...)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 25, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528 "2014-09-25T15:02:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/61 "2014-09-26T16:09:32Z")

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Thanks for white knighting Fox’s stupidity and bigotry, **JM**. It would be boring if people universally condemned obvious malignancy when they saw it.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/62 "2014-09-26T16:10:27Z")

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Fun fact, **John Mace**! If you had read my post, you’d see I quoted the same text from The Five website. That’s a ringing endorsement of **ElvisL1ves** ’s “don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about” theory. Yes, it is a chat show. No, it is not a jokey morning show.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/63 "2014-09-26T16:33:58Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Yes, it is a chat show. No, it is not a jokey morning show.

They should leave the “jokes” to the morning crew.

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**Author:** ![Indyellen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/indyellen/32/4176_2.png) [@Indyellen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indyellen)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/64 "2014-09-26T16:42:19Z")

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Stephen Colbert took it even farther than Jon Stewart on his show last night. I couldn’t help but laugh at the extended ridiculousness of it all:

[The UAE’s first female fighter pilot vs. The Five](http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/0w775u/smile-file---the-u-a-e--s-first-female-fighter-pilot-vs---the-five----uncensored)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/65 "2014-09-26T19:33:47Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Fun fact, **John Mace**! If you had read my post, you’d see I quoted the same text from The Five website. That’s a ringing endorsement of **ElvisL1ves** ’s “don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about” theory. Yes, it is a chat show. No, it is not a jokey morning show.

Can you show me the rule where jokey shows have to be in the morning? I guess I missed that one…

Or is this one of those: “It’s not exactly like the example you gave” things.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/66 "2014-09-26T19:44:10Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Thanks for white knighting Fox’s stupidity and bigotry, **JM**. It would be boring if people universally condemned obvious malignancy when they saw it.

Pfft. I don’t watch much FoxNews. It seems they can’t go more than a few minutes without saying something ridiculous, so I switch the channel. It’s a tabloid news station that happens to appeal to a certain demographic. But it does serve one purpose from time to time-- irritating the humorless ninnies on this Message Board.

And it’s really good at getting folks to talk about them. No such thing as bad publicity in the business they’re in!

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/67 "2014-09-26T19:46:15Z")

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I normally seem to be more often on the “it’s just a joke” side, but these “jokes” seemed really poorly timed. I think there can be a place for jokes that the most po-faced might call misogynistic, but I don’t think that place is on a “news” channel when someone is trying to celebrate the achievements of a pioneering female pilot. The parking comment also comes across as really attempting minimize that success.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/68 "2014-09-26T19:50:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Can you show me the rule where jokey shows have to be in the morning?

From what I know, that’s how it usually works. Everybody jokes about Kathie Lee and Hoda getting drunk off their asses and nobody expects Michael and Kelly to spend a lot of time talking about serious news. Even if The Five is really inspired by The View, it doesn’t compete with that show or any of its analogs, and it tries to play up the serious news credentials of the co-hosts and guests. I don’t think anyone does that with Whoopie Goldberg or Michael Strahan or Kathie Gifford. And I always complain about stupid people trying to play dumb, but you’re reminding me that it’s still disappointing when reasonably intelligent people play dumb. Cut it out already.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/69 "2014-09-26T20:55:40Z")

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Of COURSE it’s a joke! I don’t even get how “it’s just a joke” becomes part of any argument. Everyone knows it’s a joke. The problem is that it’s a really bad, sexist, offensive joke. And it’s a particularly poorly aimed joke at this particular target, who has accomplished something truly impressive, only to be reduced by this idiotic joke to a pair of boobs and a stereotype from the 1950s.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/70 "2014-09-26T21:20:26Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> As the Daily Show pointed out last night, this is the same network that was indignant that Obama disespected the troops by saluting with a coffee cup in his hand, then they took time out to openly mock the uniformed personnel of one of our allies as she risked her life to fight terrorists.

Not only that, IIRC, they said it was the same show on the same day!

Wow.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/71 "2014-09-26T21:21:43Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Of COURSE it’s a joke! I don’t even get how “it’s just a joke” becomes part of any argument. Everyone knows it’s a joke. The problem is that it’s a really bad, sexist, offensive joke. And it’s a particularly poorly aimed joke at this particular target, who has accomplished something truly impressive, only to be reduced by this idiotic joke to a pair of boobs and a stereotype from the 1950s.

People who think “it’s just a joke!” is an argument suck at making jokes and arguments.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/72 "2014-09-26T21:36:15Z")

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Because of this thread, I’m watching the show, and he just apologized for the inappropriate joke.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/73 "2014-09-26T21:37:10Z")

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It doesn’t matter if it was a news show or a comedy show. Sexist jokes shouldn’t be any more acceptable than racist jokes.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/74 "2014-09-26T21:49:40Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> Stephen Colbert took it even farther than Jon Stewart on his show last night. I couldn’t help but laugh at the extended ridiculousness of it all:
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> [The UAE’s first female fighter pilot vs. The Five](http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/0w775u/smile-file---the-u-a-e--s-first-female-fighter-pilot-vs---the-five----uncensored)

Where’s Suey Park when you need her? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![orangeapples](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@orangeapples](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orangeapples)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/75 "2014-09-26T22:44:04Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Because of this thread, I’m watching the show, and he just apologized for the inappropriate joke.

I don’t watch it (and don’t plan to), so was there genuine remorse, or just the usual, “Gosh I’m sorry you think I should be sorry” bullshit response?

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**Author:** ![janeslogin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@janeslogin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janeslogin)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/76 "2014-09-26T23:39:24Z")

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It was a [spoonerism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonerism) and a damned good one.  
(Sneaks away feeling awful for defending a Fox person.)

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/77 "2014-09-26T23:50:56Z")

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> [@janeslogin](#):
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> It was a [spoonerism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonerism) and a damned good one.

\<John Cleese\>

A _spoonerism?_ The spoonerism of “boobs on the ground” would be “groobs on the bound.” It don’t work!

\</John Cleese\>

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/78 "2014-09-26T23:55:26Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Not only that, IIRC, they said it was the same show on the same day!
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> Wow.

As I said at the beginning of this thread, conservatives are shitty people, it is their defining trait. A woman fighter pilot, or black president threatens their identity and that threat must be mocked to be neutralized.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/79 "2014-09-27T00:08:16Z")

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> [@orangeapples](#):
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> I don’t watch it (and don’t plan to), so was there genuine remorse, or just the usual, “Gosh I’m sorry you think I should be sorry” bullshit response?

I’ve never watched the show before either so I don’t know if I’m qualified to judge his sincerity, but his statement left me wanting more.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boobs-on-the-ground-seriously-snarl/699528/80 "2014-09-27T01:02:14Z")

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This is the same commentator who chastised Obama for his “latte” salute.

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