# Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 28, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510 "2009-10-28T21:37:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/1 "2009-10-28T21:37:13Z")
So, is anybody else looking forward to seeing this movie? The movie is coming out on October 30th in “limited release”, which of course means that I won’t be able to see it for a while, but I have been waiting for this for so long that a few more days/weeks won’t matter. I hope it’s as good as the first one. The first one was a masterpiece of one-liners, sick humor and violence. Willem Dafoe stole the show playing an eccentric, gay FBI agent, the director’s friend Rocco (playing himself, apparently) was hilarious, and the brothers were well-played. Of course, the possibility remains that it could totally suck. I’m holding out against that, but Rocco is dead and Smecker isn’t in this one so how could it match the first? I really want to see this movie, if only to judge for myself. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/2 "2009-10-28T21:49:10Z")
Well, I think we will get to see Billy Connolly in full-out psycho mode. [Boondock Saints II - All Saints Day](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1300851/) Rocco is back, though probably (almost certainly) in “flashbacks.” The first was a decently funny shooter; I’ll give this one a chance. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/3 "2009-10-28T22:01:54Z")
Do yourself a HUGE favor and see the documentary on the making of _Boondock Saints_, an awesome Hollywood-nightmare movie called _[Overnight](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390336/)_. Beyond its immense entertainment value, it will give you some insight into why the sequel took 10 years to happen. Myself, I’da bet quite a lot on the sequel never seeing the light of day, based on this doc. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/4 "2009-10-28T22:15:09Z")
Thanks, **lissener.** I did some digging on youtube and found… [Overnight (Trailer & Review)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnRUYRtoCEc) [Duffy Disses](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ay9TESzRt4&feature=related) (Warning: language). Duffy sounds like an egotistical douche. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/5 "2009-10-29T00:38:56Z")
I saw the commercial for it yesterday and I’m excited. I have a feeling it’s going to suck, but I’ll see it as soon as I can hoping I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/6 "2009-10-30T02:59:53Z")
It’s really coming out? I’ve been hearing about it for YEARS and nothing… is this for sure? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/7 "2009-10-30T07:15:58Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Myself, I’da bet quite a lot on the sequel never seeing the light of day, based on this doc. :dubious: You’re aware that the sequel is finished and playing in theaters right now right? EDIT: Oh, I missed the “I’da” typo and thought you were betting the movie would never come out, even though it is out. Without Willem Dafoe, I can’t imagine the sequel will be half as good as the original, but I’ll definitely see this eventually. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/8 "2009-10-30T07:34:16Z")
The fact that all the actors came back (except Dafoe) indicates to me that Troy Duffy is not the asshole Overnight makes him out to be. Billy Connolly has nothing but nice things to say about him on the BDS commentary track he did and Norman Reedus summed it up perfectly in an interview: “If you have enough footage of Santa Claus you can cut it to make him look like an asshole.” Basically, the story I’ve heard from multiple interviews is that the Overnight crew were friends of Duffy’s who were supposed to be making a documentary about the film. They leaned on Duffy for more money and when he explained he didn’t have any (because he spent it all on the film) they decided to turn the documentary into an attack piece. Troy Duffy is a loud and obnoxious and in-your-face, foul-mouthed, hard-drinking kind of guy but he’s nowhere near what that “documentary” makes him out to be or else the actors would never have come back for more. Just look at all the interviews the cast has done recently. They’ve been waiting for this for 10 years. And no one does that for an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/9 "2009-10-30T13:50:51Z")
So, has anyone seen it yet? (Realize only been out since midnight). Rotten Tomatoes is only showing 20%, but Flixster has it at 75%. Still not sure if I’ll see it tonight or wait for DVD. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/10 "2009-10-31T14:59:16Z")
It’s not playing anywhere close to me, so I’ll have to wait either for wider theatrical release, or DVD. I find it interesting that the Rotten Tomato ratings for BD2 practically mirror those of the original. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/11 "2009-12-06T18:59:46Z")
Just saw it in the local theater here. It was far FAR better than I expected it to be. A few things that don’t quite make sense between one movie and the next, but great action, pretty good plot, lots of funny stuff, overall a very entertaining movie. Also, I feel the need to say that Julie Benz is unreasonably hot. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/12 "2010-05-01T11:25:27Z")
Sorry to post in such an old thread, but I didn’t see a need in starting a new one. I just rented the film on iTunes and found some things to be good, such as acting and production. But by the halfway point, the film just had me scratching my head and asking ‘what’? I felt like I was watching a ping pong ball played by a cocaine filled kitten. I think I’ll try rewatching it before the 24 hour window closes and see if I feel differently. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/13 "2010-05-01T13:01:20Z")
I caught it on DVD. Liked it. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/14 "2010-05-01T13:19:15Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > Sorry to post in such an old thread, but I didn’t see a need in starting a new one. > > I just rented the film on iTunes and found some things to be good, such as acting and production. But by the halfway point, the film just had me scratching my head and asking ‘what’? I felt like I was watching a ping pong ball played by a cocaine filled kitten. I think I’ll try rewatching it before the 24 hour window closes and see if I feel differently. This sounds familiar. A friend of mine who was the biggest fan ever of the original, couldn’t finish watching it. He hated it. I’m going to take his word for it; and not watch it. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/15 "2010-05-02T14:43:48Z")
It wasn’t as good as the first one, but considering the first one is also one of my favorite movies I didn’t expect it to be. I liked it a lot. I’m sure I’ll watch it again. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/16 "2010-09-19T01:47:29Z")
I finally got round to watching _All Saints Day_. I’m… disappointed? I’d read a few reviews that said it’s not worth watching. I wouldn’t go that far. But it just didn’t live up to the original. It felt to me as if some fanboy had seen _The Boondock Saints_ and said, ‘Brilliant! Hey, let’s make our own version of it!’ It’s like they pulled the recipe out of a cookbook and just copied what was done before. Julie Benz was hot, but her heavy accent bugged the hell out of me and her acting was not believable. Now, Eunice Bloom was the protegé of Paul Smecker. But her aping of his mannerisms was silly. Like, ‘He did this, so I’m going to do the same thing even though I don’t really know why he made this gesture or that one.’ For me, the film smacked of imitation. Troy Duffy did a great job on the first one, but he seems lost on this one. Ten years in Development Hell took its toll. I won’t spoil the plot, but only say that it seemed contrived and convoluted. The ‘Why’ of it seemed pointless. Given the ‘Why’, there should have been a Great Master Plan that unravels and gives the audience some clues. Not there. Or, the clues that were there were minor. Had I not seen _The Boondock Saints_, it would have been a good enough shoot 'em up. It’s not a horrible film. Only, I was constantly distracted by the mimicry. Still, I’ll watch it again. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/17 "2010-09-19T03:02:28Z")
Hoping for a sequel, since, not to spoil anything else, is pretty much what this film is set up for. It was a lot of fun, but yeah, not as tightly held together as the first film by a long shot. Still, Julie Benz in the cowgirl getup more than made up for Wilem Dafoe’s trademark outfit from the first film. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/18 "2010-09-19T03:07:49Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Only, I was constantly distracted by the mimicry. The first time, it was a callout. The next few times, it was mimicry. Then they continued until they took “making the same movie” to an art form all itself. I could have done without the mimicry, but if you’re gonna steal from yourself, at least go all out so people know you were doing it on purpose 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/19 "2010-09-19T03:27:32Z")
The movie was a turd. Sorry. Almost as bad as The Expendables. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/515510/20 "2010-09-19T12:33:09Z")
Boondock Saints II and Overnight are both available on Netflix streaming, for anyone who is interested.