# Boondocks-- MLK would be ashamed of us! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 16, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217 "2006-01-16T14:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/61 "2006-01-19T21:07:57Z")
1. Well, I thought you’d have noticed by NOW. So, I’m making it now. Also, [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=354590&page=2) 2. You denied Polish is an ethnicity, which makes me doubt your claim, unless you’re quibbling that they are rightly _Poles_ instead of _Polish_, in which case I apologize for using an incorrect term while I suspect you of being disingenuous again. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/62 "2006-01-19T21:11:13Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > 1. You denied Polish is an ethnicity, which makes me doubt your claim, unless you’re quibbling that they are rightly _Poles_ instead of _Polish_, in which case I apologize for using an incorrect term while I suspect you of being disingenuous again. No, I am not being disingenuous and no, Polish is NOT an ethnicity. SLAVIC is an ethnicity. Polish is a nationality and to some extent a culture, but it is part of a larger Slavic ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/63 "2006-01-19T21:50:48Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > No, I am not being disingenuous and no, Polish is NOT an ethnicity. SLAVIC is an ethnicity. Polish is a nationality and to some extent a culture, but it is part of a larger Slavic ethnicity. Oh, _you_ are quibbling. [Gotcha.](http://www.answers.com/disingenuous) Hate to shatter your ego, but the smaller group, Polish, is a specific ethnicity because the larger group, [Slavs](http://www.answers.com/topic/slavic-peoples?method=6), contains many other ethnic groups. 😛 MLK would be ashamed of me. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/64 "2006-01-19T21:55:58Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > Oh, _you_ are quibbling. [Gotcha.](http://www.answers.com/disingenuous) Fraid not. You made the distinction and made it your argument, thus the quibbling is yours. Can’t help it if you are unable to distinguish between an ethnicity and a culture. [/QUOTE] > [@](#): > > MLK would be ashamed of me. That’s between you and him. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/65 "2006-01-19T22:18:45Z")
\>\> Just shakin’ my head. \<\< MUST. STOP. DEBATING. TANGENTIAL. PICAYUNE. MINUTIAE. MUST. LET. GO… NOW! :smack: Phew. The important thing to remember here is that **RikWriter** suckered me in gooooooood but my cites back ME up, **Rodgers01** has it right, and we all look forward to **DrDeth’s** non-racist racial joke. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/66 "2006-01-19T22:52:18Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > \>\> , and we all look forward to **DrDeth’s** non-racist racial joke. The grandparents, the _bar mitzva_, the Suzuki and the three rabbis. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/67 "2006-01-20T00:51:41Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > “Polish” isn’t a race, or even an ethnicity. You are wrong. I live in Niles, IL. The greater metropolitan area that I live in has the second highest population of Polish people in the world, second to Warsaw itself. Having observed the Polish people around here I can tell you that yes, many seem to have common physical characteristics. Although most of these characteristics are not as easily labeled as dark skin, or curly hair, they exist. Monobrow is one of the characteristics, and there are many others. They certainly seem to have common culture too, and a cuisine; ethnic Polish restaurants are common in my neighborhood as are signs claiming, “Mowimy po polsku!” Also, most of the Polish people that I have met are proud to be Americans. Just why do you think that Polish is not an ethnicity? ---
**Author:** ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/68 "2006-01-20T01:00:24Z")
In poor taste, but not racist: person one (reading the paper): Did you hear that _\_'s funeral is tomorrow. person two: No, what does the paper say? person one: Well, _\_ are the pall bearers. And _\_ is carrying the bucket. person two: What bucket? The bucket you kick when you die? What are you talking about? person one: Have some sense, how can anyone go black burying without a bucket? ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/69 "2006-01-20T01:04:57Z")
WAH wah _wah_. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/70 "2006-01-20T01:20:01Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > \>\>The important thing to remember here is that **RikWriter** suckered me in gooooooood but my cites back ME up The only thing you cited was a dictionary definition of “disingenuous,” which should, apparently, have had your screen name included with it. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/71 "2006-01-20T01:21:33Z")
> [@lee](#): > > You are wrong. I live in Niles, IL. The greater metropolitan area that I live in has the second highest population of Polish people in the world, second to Warsaw itself. Having observed the Polish people around here I can tell you that yes, many seem to have common physical characteristics. Although most of these characteristics are not as easily labeled as dark skin, or curly hair, they exist. Monobrow is one of the characteristics, and there are many others. They certainly seem to have common culture too, and a cuisine; ethnic Polish restaurants are common in my neighborhood as are signs claiming, “Mowimy po polsku!” Also, most of the Polish people that I have met are proud to be Americans. Just why do you think that Polish is not an ethnicity? Because it isn’t, your assertions notwithstanding. Polish is a nationality. Slavic is the ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/72 "2006-01-20T01:27:31Z")
[Dude.](http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2875.htm) Polish is a nationality and an ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![Rodgers01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rodgers01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodgers01)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/73 "2006-01-20T01:39:33Z")
Yeesh, enough! As if the Polskis haven’t been fought over enough already. :smack: Substitute whatever ethnicity/nationality/culture/racial group you want, the point is the same. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/74 "2006-01-20T01:42:01Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > [Dude.](http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2875.htm) Polish is a nationality and an ethnicity. Sorry, but a throwaway line in a State Department website doesn’t convince me that my European History courses in college were incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/75 "2006-01-20T01:44:55Z")
Must. Let. Go… Now! ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/76 "2006-01-20T01:46:01Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > Must. Let. Go… Now! You keep saying that, yet you keep posting in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/77 "2006-01-20T01:52:37Z")
I find this willful ignorance of yours fascinating. Any minute now someone else is going to take a stab at this and I’m either going to be a) embarrassed or b) vindicated. C’mon, “vindicated!” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/78 "2006-01-20T01:59:49Z")
I’m a white guy. Am I allowed to say that I laughed a lot at the show, enjoyed it a great deal, and yet felt a little sad at Huey’s and Martin’s Sysiphean struggle? 'Cause that’s how I felt. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/79 "2006-01-20T02:00:59Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > I find this willful ignorance of yours fascinating. And how fascinating that you were the first to cry “personal insult!” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217/80 "2006-01-20T02:08:12Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I’m a white guy. > > Am I allowed to say that I laughed a lot at the show, enjoyed it a great deal, and yet felt a little sad at Huey’s and Martin’s Sysiphean struggle? > > 'Cause that’s how I felt. If we’re not allowed, then I’ve been on the wrong side of this show since it premiered. Huey’s always appealed to my inner black revolutionary. -Marley White since birth, still searching for a cure 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boondocks-mlk-would-be-ashamed-of-us/340217.md?page=5)