# Border Agent arrested for serial murder: Trump pardons him in....what, 90 days? Less?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458 "2018-09-16T19:47:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/41 "2018-09-18T18:32:52Z")

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I just start playing with my pardon, and when you’re President they just let you!

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/42 "2018-09-18T19:57:10Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Good. I hope he botched it, and took a while to slowly and painfully strangle.

“Suicide.” Not that I greatly care if it wasn’t wholly his idea.

Why would Trump pardon a shitbag CBP agent who liked to kill prostitutes? Oh, and I’m willing to guess that he’s got a lot more than 5 bodies on his conscience.

But seriously, why would it occur to you that Trump would pardon someone like this?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/43 "2018-09-18T20:11:08Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> But seriously, why would it occur to you that Trump would pardon someone like this?

Because Trump is the Nexus of Evil, not just a twittering jackass.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/44 "2018-09-18T21:29:25Z")

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Update: He says his motive was to commit suicide by cop.

> **[Border Patrol agent accused of killing 4 stockpiled weapons and sought...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-detail-texas-border-patrol-agent-allegedly-targeted/story?id=57871672)**
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> Police revealed details about a Texas woman who fought off an alleged killer.

I just have no words.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/45 "2018-09-18T22:45:38Z")

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It looks to me like, in the Carol Anne Bond case, that the federal nexus was not the treaty, but the mail theft.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/46 "2018-09-18T23:23:10Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Neither. Ms. Haynes did not die. 🙂

Ooops. My bad. Just re-read your post. :smack:

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**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/47 "2018-09-19T14:36:44Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Murder is not a federal crime… _snip_

Not disagreeing, but putting this out there:  
UCMJ Article 118.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/48 "2018-09-19T16:57:10Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It looks to me like, in the Carol Anne Bond case, that the federal nexus was not the treaty, but the mail theft.

Nope. The mail theft was the predicate for the tampering with the mail charge. But the poison substance was introduced to the car muffler, and had nothing to do with the mail, and the indictment alleged a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 229(a)(1) for “possessing and using a chemical weapon,” and separately charged two counts of mail theft, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1708. The acts related to the chemical use had no connection to the mail theft.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/49 "2018-09-24T00:26:36Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> I don’t see it as a problem …it let’s us know who’s wearing a dunce cap at their computer.  
> Secondly, it’s really cool that there’s another Ponch out there.

I’m waiting to see what Inspector Harry Callahan has to say about it 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/border-agent-arrested-for-serial-murder-trump-pardons-him-in-what-90-days-less/821458/50 "2018-09-24T00:28:58Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> “Suicide.” Not that I greatly care if it wasn’t wholly his idea.
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> Why would Trump pardon a shitbag CBP agent who liked to kill prostitutes? Oh, and I’m willing to guess that he’s got a lot more than 5 bodies on his conscience.
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> But seriously, why would it occur to you that Trump would pardon someone like this?

A Trump pardon didn’t occur to me. This guy can’t do anything for Trump. And so, in the Trumpy world view, he doesn’t even exist.

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