# Borderlands 2 General Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 18, 2012, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052 "2012-09-18T06:02:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/21 "2012-09-22T04:16:41Z")

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> Having a blast with the Commando. The turret is a lot of fun and pretty effective.
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> Some of the new gun designs are great.

Yeah. The assault grenadier is interesting and fun . It’s kind of like kid throwing a banked superball around the corner at your sister’s head, except there are three, and they blow shit up 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/22 "2012-09-22T04:17:50Z")

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> As an aside, the song used in the intro _“Aint no place for a hero”_. What genre of music would that be?

According to Wikipedia, the band’s genre puts it either in “neo-soul” or just plain “funk” (or indie, but that’s even worse than “pop” as a descriptor).

ETA: Though it does sound kind of like something a less memorable They Might Be Giants would play.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/23 "2012-09-22T04:30:23Z")

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Damn, was gonna edit but the board went all unresponsive–

> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#):
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> I am not very happy about what they did to the new siren, her powers feel like a massive nerf. In the first one I could run up to a bunch of enemies, shift/explode hurting them all and causing status damage, run around any I didn’t get, causing them status damage, unshift causing more damage and then run away while I recharged. I also had a universal oh shit button. Now the best I can do is disable one guy for a little bit, which doesn’t help if there is 20 more shooting at me. The skill tree on the left looks promising, I am looking forward to making enemies kill each other off, but I’m only level 12 so thats a long way away. And as if to rub it in, when Lillith from the first game shows up, her powers have been turned up to 11, and she is doing all the things I wanna be doing, but with even more devastating effectiveness.

Agreed. I’m thinking of going Zero. His power is turning invisible and one of his skill tree ultimates is shooting exploding elemental throwing knives at everything when he uses it. So if you take that path you’ve basically copied Lillith\*.

\*Without the submachine gun, Phoenix, and crazy broken elemental modifiers, of course.

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**Author:** ![pilot141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pilot141](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pilot141)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/24 "2012-09-22T06:50:55Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> Holy cow!
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> Does anyone else have Physx turned up all the way?
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> Oh my god, the second boss (a duo of crazy guys)… there are no words. I have NEVER seen so much debris littering a battlefield in a game before! It was so amazing!

I even posted a screenshot on Steam because of this. I was walking around looking at it all in amazement, when my brain finally re-engaged and I hit F12. I didn’t even have Physx turned all the way up at the time, but I sure do now!

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/25 "2012-09-22T07:04:58Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> I played a bit of co-op with my friends today. I think I’m definitely going to do a co-op only character for that purpose. It was fun but I really like taking the story at my own pace – it was just way too hectic with three people.

I just did my first co-op. One of the players was Kessler(?) and not sure he was a SDMB dude but he was cool and we worked well and had fun.

But when PUG players joined it sucked. They ran around ninjaing all the loot (ALL of it) and seemed intent on some kind of speed run (the lot of them).

Worse, I saw a chest and opened in. Lo-and-behold it contains two purple sniper rifles! I switch to my inventory to drop some stuff and do not see that one of the PUG players initiated a zone change.

**POOF**

I’m now in a new zone and the two sexy rifles are gone.

I learn later (revisiting the chest) I burned a golden key on that. Yeah, I guess I shoulda known better but it was the first one I saw and felt rushed because apparently it was every person for themselves (Kessler was cool) and I had never seen one before.

In short, fuck random players. I know my small experience is not everyone (although we had several jump in) and some are bound to be cool but even one joker can seriously mess up the game for you. Not worth the risk.

Play with people you know who want to play like you like to play and it is a blast. Get someone else with different notions and it sucks.

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**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/26 "2012-09-28T12:35:00Z")

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Been having fun playing zer0 lately. I love the look of the game; I never played the original but kept meaning to buy it.

Its interesting having a FPS that tells me how much damage my shots are doing. The banter in-game is funny, and I like the Fight For Your Life mechanic. How long is the game? I’m hoping its not too short like Diablo IIIs was.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/27 "2012-09-28T13:35:47Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Worse, I saw a chest and opened in. Lo-and-behold it contains two purple sniper rifles! I switch to my inventory to drop some stuff and do not see that one of the PUG players initiated a zone change.
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> **POOF**
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> I’m now in a new zone and the two sexy rifles are gone.

Oof, that really sucks. That’s why I don’t like to play multiplayer until I’ve been to a new area by myself and checked everything out. I’m paranoid about missing out on First Boss Kill loot and other things like that.

And yeah - everyone needs to be careful with their gold keys and the gold box in Sanctuary. You might want to send Gearbox a quick e-mail, and see if they’ll send you a code. Can’t hurt - it’s a very user-friendly company.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/28 "2012-09-29T02:49:37Z")

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> As an aside, the song used in the intro _“Aint no place for a hero”_. What genre of music would that be?

Incidentally the track is actually called “Short Change Hero”.

And it’s no “Ain’t No Rest For the Wicked” but I’m so, so, so LOVING it. It’s chill and groovy and soulful and I think I’ve listened to it about a dozen times in the last couple of days.

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**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/29 "2012-09-29T07:39:53Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> Incidentally the track is actually called “Short Change Hero”.

[Youtube link.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1QUZzeZoPQ) I like it, too.

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**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/30 "2012-09-29T23:17:56Z")

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Just as a note for those who regret using their golden key: you can get a new one by signing up for SHIFT in-game (under Extras), and Gearbox is also giving away golden key codes through the company president’s [twitter account.](https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic) I have three keys in total now, and I know some people who have 5 or 6.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/31 "2012-09-29T23:52:31Z")

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> [@Raygun99](#):
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> Just as a note for those who regret using their golden key: you can get a new one by signing up for SHIFT in-game (under Extras), and Gearbox is also giving away golden key codes through the company president’s [twitter account.](https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic) I have three keys in total now, and I know some people who have 5 or 6.

Woohoo Thanks. But…  
I’m like a kid on Christmas, I wanna see what I got now, But I have decent weapon for this level already. ☹

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/32 "2012-09-30T13:38:08Z")

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That part about having good weapon for this level? you can scratch that, ☹ . I immediately got into a part of the story where things escalated very quickly and I found out that I, in fact, was poorly armed.

after killing Wilhelm,who was built up as a major boss, pretty easily I thought I was rockin it

but then the whole arc about the city being teleported and having to slog my way back to it, I got killed several times due to poor DPS and defenses

and the final bit of that missionholding the beacon again the never ending robot army, really transferred a bunch of my beautiful money to stupid hyperion’s res boxes.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/33 "2012-09-30T21:01:05Z")

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For anyone who cares there is another golden key code good for an hour or so on the link from Raygun, they say it is the last one for the weekend.

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**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/34 "2012-10-08T21:51:50Z")

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[Mechromancer skill tree.](http://www.borderlands2.com/us/skilltree/mechromancer.html)

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/35 "2012-10-09T02:35:40Z")

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I love that tree, I’m going to hate every minute of it until I get really damn good, but I’m going Ordered Chaos build (with secondary skills in Little Big Trouble, of course). The way they structured Ordered Chaos is a little odd though, since it’s supposed to be “hard mode” (but the most effective build for any character if you can master it), they essentially force you to take a point in all the talents to progress down the tree.

I wasn’t really excited about any of the release characters, and got bored playing them, but I’m really excited for Gaige. The echo casts ([#1](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijs-FEk3OIk&feature=relmfu) [#2](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zNk8kM2Qj0&feature=player_embedded)) has also convinced me that her voice actor (Cherami Leigh) is the best ever, it’s almost scary how naturally the voice comes out.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/36 "2012-10-09T07:16:17Z")

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According to Twitter, Mechromancer is getting a week early release. Meaning you can play as Gaige by the end of TODAY. I’m so happy, I’ve been waiting for Gaige before I played the game because her style appealed to me as much as Lilith’s did in the original. And I played the shit out of Lilith.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/37 "2012-10-09T07:24:02Z")

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And on a completely random note, does default Zero look a hell of a lot like a masked Salarian decked out in N7 armor to anyone else? I just can’t get over how much he looks like a Salarian to me.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/38 "2012-10-09T08:47:26Z")

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I’m playing through as the soldier. I never played Borderlands, but I am really really loving this game so far. It has a lot of great charm and characters, the graphics are fantastic, the music is extremely good. And the villain, even though I haven’t met him yet, has to be simply one of the best video game villains of all time so far. I love hearing his twisted, deranged, awful broadcasts to me.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/39 "2012-10-09T15:21:17Z")

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Agh. These pretzels suck…

How’s it going, buddy?

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**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-2-general-discussion/635052/40 "2012-10-09T15:30:16Z")

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“Butt stallion says hello” 😛

Just started on True Vault Hunter Mode with Zero. Its much tougher, and I may respec out of sniping since Many Must Fall is pretty disapponting (Rising shot seems better, and is much lower on that tree).

Most fun i’ve had so far was popping the heads off 3 caustic goliaths and watch them vomit acid all over each other for three minutes while screaming how they’re so angry!

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