# Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 14, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264 "2014-10-14T03:03:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/1 "2014-10-14T03:03:34Z")
It’s unlocking in about an hour according to Steam. Anybody picking this up? I don’t know who I’m going to play. The gunslinger lady looks pretty fun, but I kind of like the idea of Wilhelm. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/2 "2014-10-14T16:07:05Z")
I’m not playing that game. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/3 "2014-10-14T16:21:32Z")
I seem to recall that there was some controversy over whether it would be discounted because it didn’t have enough content to justify a full release price. Then suddenly it was at the full release price and I’ve seen no follow-up on the issue. As exciting as the prospect of working in different gravities is, a matter generally ignored in science fiction games, the use of oxygen as a game resource has been described as making the entire game, in effect, a water level. So, I don’t know. I think I can wait on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/4 "2014-10-14T16:30:02Z")
Who’s playing?!? I can’t wait to get my hands on it, but my wife and I have too much going on this winter to start another game. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/5 "2014-10-14T17:52:05Z")
Too many games to play right now. I’ll revisit come the spring Steam sale. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/6 "2014-10-15T04:19:39Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > the use of oxygen as a game resource has been described as making the entire game, in effect, a water level. Nah, say what you will but the Oxygen is superfluous. That’s not a good thing, necessarily, but I’ve literally never been in danger of suffocating. Enemies drop O2 canisters like they’re hot potatoes. The only time O2 really matters is when you’re trying to make a tricky double jump, but there’s almost always a nearby air vent. The system is totally superfluous, and while I can’t say it adds anything to the game, I also can’t say it subtracts anything. The new mechanics (butt stomp, doublejump, and shooting enemy air masks) are good, but could have been done without the O2 system. So far my verdict is that the game is a BL2 DLC, basically. It’s not as good as Tiny Tina’s, but way better than the other DLCs. If you like BL2 and didn’t burn yourself out on it, you’ll probably like this. If you hated Borderlands 2 or completely burnt yourself out on it then skip it. I bought it at full price because I wanted a good co-op game to play with my friend and we used to play BL2 a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/7 "2014-10-16T03:17:35Z")
Presented without comment or context because what the fuck? [![](http://puu.sh/ce1Pa.png) ](http://puu.sh/ce1Pa.png) ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/8 "2014-10-16T04:31:25Z")
The car jumps seem _really_ badly designed this time. I’ve run into invisible walls, bounced off the launch ramp in an utterly random direction, landed solid then flipped backwards into a chasm…hell, there’s a few ramps where I’ve gotten out of the buggy and done the double-jump, instead, because it’s safer! ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/9 "2014-10-16T13:05:35Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > Presented without comment or context because what the fuck? > > [http://puu.sh/ce1Pa.png](http://puu.sh/ce1Pa.png) You can play as Tiny Tina in this game? I thought it was just Claptrap, Roland, Jack, and…other people ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/10 "2014-10-16T13:15:05Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > Presented without comment or context because what the fuck? > > [http://puu.sh/ce1Pa.png](http://puu.sh/ce1Pa.png) Because it’s fucking awesome, that’s why. > [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > You can play as Tiny Tina in this game? > > I thought it was just Claptrap, Roland, Jack, and…other people Doesn’t having her picture in the top right indicate she’s talking to you? I don’t remember as it’s been a while… ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/11 "2014-10-16T13:28:21Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > You can play as Tiny Tina in this game? > > I thought it was just Claptrap, Roland, Jack, and…other people The four playable characters are William (Jack’s right hand in BL2), Athena (the assassin you meet in BL1 Knoxx DLC), Nisha (the Sheriff in BL2) and Claptrap (the most annoying thing ever in every game and DLC). ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/12 "2014-10-16T13:32:52Z")
> [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](#): > > The four playable characters are William (Jack’s right hand in BL2), Athena (the assassin you meet in BL1 Knoxx DLC), Nisha (the Sheriff in BL2) and Claptrap (the most annoying thing ever in every game and DLC). Any of them play similar to a siren? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/13 "2014-10-16T13:42:49Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > Presented without comment or context because what the fuck? > > [http://puu.sh/ce1Pa.png](http://puu.sh/ce1Pa.png) Okay, I’m in. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/14 "2014-10-16T13:55:56Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Doesn’t having her picture in the top right indicate she’s talking to you? I don’t remember as it’s been a while… Oh yeah that is how it works isn’t it? Oops. Guess it’s been a while for me too > [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](#): > > The four playable characters are William (Jack’s right hand in BL2), Athena (the assassin you meet in BL1 Knoxx DLC), Nisha (the Sheriff in BL2) and Claptrap (the most annoying thing ever in every game and DLC). So I got one right. I call that a victory! ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/15 "2014-10-16T14:12:41Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Any of them play similar to a siren? I haven’t actually played it since it’s not out in EU yet and I’m waiting for a sale in any case, but [here’s the skill trees.](http://borderlandsthegame.com/skilltrees/) ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/16 "2014-10-16T16:47:31Z")
I grabbed it since I don’t wanna get into **Wasteland 2** till I go on my winter vacation. Its just more of the same ol’ Borderlands, but I love Borderlands so it works out very well. As mentioned upthread oxygen is not really a big issue, plenty of it around, though it does feel like a superfluous mechanic. I suspect that everyone with more then one play through on the previous titles will ultimately end up buying it and loving it despite the gripes. ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands-the-pre-sequel/701264/17 "2014-10-16T17:09:34Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > So I got one right. I call that a victory! Jack, or at least one of Jack’s body doubles, is supposed to be one of the DLCs.