# Borderlands **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 20, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438 "2009-10-20T03:54:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![willthekittensurvive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@willthekittensurvive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/willthekittensurvive)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/161 "2009-12-11T14:02:19Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > So with the DLC, can you do it at any level and any point in the story and it scales to you, or should you do it at max level, or what? the level of the DLC scales to the level of main questline, so if you did alot of sidequest it wil be easy, if the main quests are still tough for you the DLC will be tough too ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/162 "2009-12-11T16:41:17Z")
My zombies were pretty much the same level as I was. I didn’t get much of a chance to play though because of sound issues. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/163 "2009-12-13T20:35:47Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Any Rolands need a level 25 Purple Shock Trooper Mod? No? Guess I’ll sell it and get the $15K. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/164 "2009-12-26T15:23:49Z")
Has anyone been able to install this thing on a PC? I keep getting 1722 errors, and Vorlon Jr is getting frustrated. At this rate, WorstBuy is going to be giving me my money back… ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/165 "2009-12-26T15:26:04Z")
Never had a problem with it. I’m not sure what a “1722 error” is, but if you put the exact error message into google you can probably find a fast solution. Edit: Or you meant 1,722 errors. Either way, the error message into google. ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/166 "2009-12-30T15:39:12Z")
I downloaded and tried the new content for Borderlands last night: _Madd Moxxi’s Underdome Riot_. My download was for the XBox; 800 Microsoft points. I only played about 20 minutes, partly due to time-constraints, and partly due to a combination of the challenges and annoyances. I’m not normally a fan of “arena” type settings, but at 800 points I figured it was a reasonable gamble for a Borderlands fan. The good: - a BANK! Up to 39 slots to hold your excess items. As far as I can tell, you can only access the bank from the Underdome, but I could be wrong. - if on a team, when one member “dies” they get sent to a penalty box where they can still snipe/use other abilities. The “depends on your preferences”: - I’m a level 50; it was challenging. The first few waves weren’t so bad, but I ended up dying to aliens, against whom I had no decent weapons in my inventory (i.e. shock). - Tuned for multi-player (my perception, and stated as such by one of the Gearbox folks). The bad: - if your team wipes, everyone is sent back to the beginning wave of the previous level. - the music in the lobby has this “I live next door to a disco” thumping that starts giving me a headache after about 5 minutes (yes, I have a subwoofer, why do you ask?) - during the fighting, there is a constant, monotonous crowd noise sound effect that started driving me nuts; I ended up having to turn the sound down to near-zero. This is not cheering that varies with the battle - it is like someone running a hairdryer. I don’t regret the purchase, but I can see that playing solo probably isn’t realistic for me. Thus, it limits my effective (successful) access. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/167 "2010-02-27T15:41:46Z")
Didn’t want to make a brand new thread about this but I wanted to add that I just got this game this week and have really been enjoying it. I only wish the skill trees were more varied and that they would give each character more than one useable skill. I’m a soldier and the turret is cool and all but it’s not very exciting. Are there items you can pick up that will reduce the cooldown time for your skills? It sucks waiting almost 2 minutes between dropping turrets. ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/168 "2010-02-27T21:55:36Z")
There are skills in the Soldier trees that reduce the cooldown. I agree that the two-minute cooldown that you’re stuck with initially really makes the class rather unappealing, but once you get enough points to reduce the cooldown, it isn’t so bad. And while we’re at it: **the new DLC The Secret Armory of General Knoxx is out**. I’ve downloaded it but only played about an hour, and quickly found out that playing as a second-playthrough level 50 hurts hard and hurts fast. Apparently, as a 50 on playthrough 2, you are encouraged to go out and gain a few levels before diving into the meat of Armory. ---
**Author:** ![moldybread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@moldybread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moldybread)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/169 "2010-03-03T17:11:55Z")
Wow Crawermax! Thats one tough battle. Secret armory seems to be worth the price. Best DLC so far IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/170 "2010-04-06T04:02:53Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > And the Big Bad Boss Man at the end of the game was awfully weak. Took him down on my first try. I keep getting the damn thing down to about ¼ health when it pulls out those stupid tentacles again–at which point I’m low on ammo and get killed. Which causes damn thing to completely regenerate! :mad::mad::mad::mad: ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/171 "2010-04-06T13:46:47Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > I keep getting the damn thing down to about ¼ health when it pulls out those stupid tentacles again–at which point I’m low on ammo and get killed. Which causes damn thing to completely regenerate! > :mad::mad::mad::mad: It’s easier if you hide behind one of the pillars–there are two or three places on the battlefield where the boss can’t touch you, and you just have to pop out, shoot a few times, duck back, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/172 "2010-04-06T13:53:20Z")
I really, really struggled with this guy the first few times (very similar to your experience)…then found that if I just hid behind a pillar and shot whatever tentacle was close to me (rather than exposing myself and trying for the eyeball), it was quite easy. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/173 "2010-04-06T15:38:04Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > It’s easier if you hide behind one of the pillars–there are two or three places on the battlefield where the boss can’t touch you, and you just have to pop out, shoot a few times, duck back, etc. Did that after shooting off the tentacles but they’d just grow back after getting the damn thing down to ¼ health. Also tried hiding behind a piller and ignoring the tentacles; those purple explody-things got me. Whose bright idea was it to have a final boss that completely regenerates every time the PC is killed?! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/174 "2010-04-06T15:46:42Z")
> [@Raza](#): > > I really, really struggled with this guy the first few times (very similar to your experience)…then found that if I just hid behind a pillar and shot whatever tentacle was close to me (rather than exposing myself and trying for the eyeball), it was quite easy. Also tried that, even went _behind_ the damn thing to pick off tentacles. Purple explody-things still got me. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/175 "2010-04-06T16:30:17Z")
I found the battle pretty easy so long as you break LOS behind the rocks now and then (also, being Lilith helps with all things). I did run out of SMG ammo and had to start conserving and planning shots with my sniper and revolver, though I did figure out about halfway through the battle that when he shoots that rain of purple globules down some of them “drop” ammo when they disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/176 "2010-04-06T18:00:54Z")
This is really weirding me out, because I scorched that thing on my first try as Roland. Now that I’m thinking about it, my strategy was: 1. Hide behind the pillars when necessary, in a place where the shockwave attack and eye laser can’t hit you. 2. Pop out whenever new purple tentacles spawn, kill them ASAP. 3. Pop out whenever prudent and hammer on the eye. Repeat until dead. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/177 "2010-04-06T19:50:02Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Now that I’m thinking about it, my strategy was: > > 1. Hide behind the pillars when necessary, in a place where the shockwave attack and eye laser can’t hit you. > 2. Pop out whenever new purple tentacles spawn, kill them ASAP. > 3. Pop out whenever prudent and hammer on the eye. > > Repeat until dead. Yep, yep, and yep. Even have a sniper rifle that does 4K damage on each hit to the eye. “Repeat until dead” still means “repeat until Mordecai’s dead and the damn thing completely regenerates”. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/178 "2010-04-06T22:57:42Z")
Well, that did it. Needed to use my static shotgun on the eye and save the sniper for the tentacles. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/179 "2010-04-07T12:57:26Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Mordecai …is made of tissue paper sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Roulette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8dc957/32.png) [@Roulette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roulette)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438/180 "2010-04-07T13:29:43Z")
The entire game is easier if you have Roland with a ammo regeneration class mod. Playing through some of the areas, particularly the vault entrance combined with the boss can be very difficult if you’re scrounging for ammo. In my group, we have a lilith and a roland. Effectively, we just go full auto on everything because we’re regenerating ammo faster than we can use it. Roland goes down a lot, but lilith tends to be able to stay alive and revive him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borderlands/514438.md?page=10)