Thanks for the explanation.
We in the US don’t get enough exposure to political history in our own system, let alone others’.
The 1922 committee themselves have an election of members. Since the committee decides the Conservative party rules for situations like removing and electing a new party leader and PM, it is the subject of much intrigue.
Johnson has had several meeting leading up to his resignation as party leader. He may have tried to cut some kind of deal. I don’t doubt he is trying to get his supporters onto that committee, as will be just about every other ministera and their faction.
More details on the 1922 Committee here:
Don’t worry, you:d have to be a bit of a nerd on political minutiae even if you were British. (By coincidence, the 1922 came to be associated with the Conservatives’ despatch that autumn of a charismatic PM under whom they’d a massive victory in a general election barely four years earlier, but whose judgment and personal integrity was in question: as it happens, he wasn’t a Tory, but the leader of a faction of the Liberals, but it’s one if those odd parallels).
And hey, it’s the centennial of the 1922 Committee!
What does the italicized in the above mean?
IANA British person but I’ve seen this discussed: non-domicile status, that is, Sunak’s wife claims not to be an official resident of the UK, for tax purposes.
It’s weirder than that, AIUI. It isn’t to do with physical residence of the person concerned, but of the source of the income, as long as it stays offshore. AIUI tax is payable on income transferred into this country.
At least Sunak is wealthy and his wife is minted. Many of Boris Johnson’s scandals were because he was always short of money? The salary of a Prime Minister could not cover the school fees of all the children he fathered, nor the interior decoration demands of his current spouse. He was always looking for wealthy sponsors, which has led him to keep some very dodgy company.
The many scandals of Boris Johnson deserves a thread of its own……Actually, there is enough material for a Netflix miniseries.
Clean cut, honest Rishi Sunak will be a front runner for the leadership. Boris Johnson did not like him at all. Tension between Prime Ministers who like to spend and Chancellors who look after the finances is a regular feature if UK politics.
One thing is certain, the UK is heading for a very difficult time financially towards the end of the year. I was shocked to hear that energy bills could rise dramatically taking millions of voters into serious fuel poverty.
They will need to be someone with a very steady on the tiller to guide the UK through the coming financial crisis.
Unfortunately that one’s been shot down (his clean cut and honest idea), wasn’t it shown he was also non-dom while an MP perhaps even chancellor, so in effect avoiding tax while collecting it? It was another of those sort of things which would have had any normal minister resign pre-2019.
I guess it’s whether the press brings up back up again. BBC has been gagged and tied now so it’s up to other media outlets to do that (the scandals leading to the fall of Johnson was far more ITN and Channel 4s doing, the BBC eventually started reporting it when unavoidable).
Ultimately I’m not sure if anyone of colour has a chance in the modern conservative party as leader. It’s pretty much an unspoken known that a chunk of the conservative electorate won’t vote for them, imagine a Black republican president. Have many if any made it to candidate stage (I speak with little knowledge of US system, so I might not be using the correct term)?
The position of Chancellor of the Exchequer (Minister of Finance) is a very powerful position in the Cabinet, second only to the office of Prime Minister. The cabinet has several senior ministers from immigrant backgrounds and a lot of women. It looks very diverse to me.
The election of a new PM will start by votes by the 350 or so Conservative MPs to reduce the field down to two candidates. Then the rank and file of the Conservative party members will get to choose between them. So two different types of voter there.
This is a party that has elected two women Prime Ministers in the past. In this respect it is more progressive than the other parties. Suggesting that they are colour prejudiced? Not in 2022.
Most of the discussion will be about Conservative political values and bringing a bit of dignity back to government rather than the Eton mess that has embarrassed them so much.
Have you ever seen the like:
To vulgarity - and beyond!
Not to mention keeping up his US green card (I think “sources” will make sure we’re all reminded about that in the weeks to come).
Well, that makes a lot more sense. The only thing that I could think of was that his wife was going around proclaiming that she was not a dominatrix.
I, too, presumed some tawdry sex thing.
(“Egad! His wife is boring in bed!”)
BBC has been gagged? What are you on about? All the news channels are completely buzzing with interviews and opinions. Some of the candidates are keeping quiet until they judge the right time to launch their campaigns. Rishi has been fast out the gate and launched his with a slick video.
I expect the others will emerge over the next couple of days. They are busy mustering their support within the party. There will be a qualification of a minimum number of MPs needed to support a candidate. That figure should be announced on Monday to reduce the number of candidates. There are a lot of no hopers who put their name forward just to raise their profile and hopefully get a ministerial job in a new cabinet.
What is very confusing is that with all the resignations and appointments still managed by Johnson, the party is in turmoil. The 1922 committee has a lot of work to do to impose some order. This is quite a remarkable situation that has never happened before.
Rishi Sunak has revealed his new campaign … called ready4rishi.com
Interestingly… he registered that site last December !
Well, Thatcher was certainly the example of being a woman, but she didn’t act like one, but saying they’ve elected women is not the same as electing a person of colour. They have rode UKIP (British National Party in suits) wave of anti-immigration and went further and further to the right with alliances with the Brexit party last election (UKIP2, the more racist, we can speak freely now), there hasn’t ever been such anti-women support in the party.
Some people will vote Tory no matter who, so that’s how they get to be MPs. The PM will appoint senior members, so it’s not up to the british public who gets serious positions of power, but it’s the tory faithful who finally decide, and the only way I see that happening is if the final two candidates are both people of colour and thus there is no choice
But yes, the discussion with be that, but it’s the unstated.
I’d rather end this here with agree to disagree, and not divert another thread with details.