# Born Alive Infant Protection Act **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-alive-infant-protection-act/666382 "2013-08-16T03:12:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-alive-infant-protection-act/666382/121 "2013-08-25T03:41:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Not in the eyes of the law. Calling someone a killer is accusing them of an illegal act. Since this isn’t a law court and I explained the meaning I won’t further explain it. > [@Trinopus](#): > > Agreed, even to the parenthetical caveat. These are terms that the two sides can accept for themselves. > > If a guy prefers to be called “Richard,” it’s bad form to call him “Dick.” (And vice versa.) > > I’d like this to extend to the word “baby” in the abortion discussion. You can say, “In my opinion, it’s a baby,” and that’s valid. That is your opinion. You can’t say, “It is a baby,” because that is not agreed to. That isn’t our opinion. That’s the issue in dispute. I’m more than ready to use dry, non-emotional terms in the discussion. > [@Cyros](#): > > I don’t believe that to be the case. Calling someone a murderer is accusing them of an illegal act. Calling someone a killer merely accuses them of having killed. Thanks, my idea was a like that. > [@tomndebb](#): > > Actually, I agree that “forced birther” is not appropriate. > > I missed it because “baby killer” was such a lightning rod, in and of itself. > > I do not find “forced birther” to have the same weight of insult as “baby killer,” but I agree that it is out of place in this discussion and if it is used, again, it will also receive a Warning. > > [/Moderating] Thanks. > [@YogSosoth](#): > > Ooo, somebody’s mad because society and the law doesn’t agree with them! Ooh, somebody doens’t know the difference between arguments in a debate and arguing with the referee. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-alive-infant-protection-act/666382/122 "2013-08-25T03:43:42Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > I’m more than ready to use dry, non-emotional terms in the discussion. Like fetus? ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-alive-infant-protection-act/666382/123 "2013-08-25T05:28:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Like fetus? Sure. Of course I expect no “blood clot” nor “clump of cells” in return. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-alive-infant-protection-act/666382/124 "2013-08-25T06:15:27Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Sure. Of course I expect no “blood clot” nor “clump of cells” in return. Never from me. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-alive-infant-protection-act/666382/125 "2013-08-25T11:31:04Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Sure. Of course I expect no “blood clot” nor “clump of cells” in return. Zygote is ok though, right? ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-alive-infant-protection-act/666382/126 "2013-08-26T04:52:00Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Zygote is ok though, right? perfect. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/born-alive-infant-protection-act/666382.md?page=6)