# Bosch Season 5

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 18, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707 "2019-04-18T07:30:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Katakuri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Katakuri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katakuri)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/1 "2019-04-18T07:30:18Z")

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Season five drops tomorrow on Amazon Prime.

Never read the books, but I know the show is not to everybody’s liking. I heard Bosch being called cliche, but I believe the show has a distinctive old school crime/thriller movie feel, especially the gritty and, somewhat, realistic ones that populated the seventies and eighties, something like Night Moves (1975) or The Laughing Policeman (1973) come to mind.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/2 "2019-04-18T13:35:50Z")

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Thanks for the heads up. Love the books and the show.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/3 "2019-04-18T14:53:13Z")

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I love Bosch the books, buy them the day the come out, can’t put thm down until i finish. I enjoy Bosch the series. Given that, the problems with the series are:

1. Bosch is an asshole. The worst kind, the kind that thinks he’s the good guy. Still, he’s the same in the books, though. (personally, I think Connelly writes Bosch based on himself.)

2. They combine too many books into one season. It muddles everything. Too much going on and too many details omitted. Too many changes.

Still, I’ll be right there when the new season drops!

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/4 "2019-04-18T15:01:05Z")

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Yay! I like the long term crime solving of Bosch. It’s a slow pace but it never drags. And I like all the characters. It has a New York feel, even though it’s set in LA.

I do find it unlikely he could afford that house, though.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/5 "2019-04-18T16:38:51Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Yay! I like the long term crime solving of Bosch. It’s a slow pace but it never drags. And I like all the characters. It has a New York feel, even though it’s set in LA.
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> I do find it unlikely he could afford that house, though.

He wrote about one of his murder cases and a production company bought the rights from him, which paid for his house on the hill. At least that’s how I remember it. Ah, Wiki to the rescue:

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> The money that financed Bosch’s home came from a production studio for a TV mini-series in which actor Dan Lacey portrays Bosch in a case the detective had worked that involved a serial killer; Bosch worked as a technical advisor on the mini-series.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/6 "2019-04-18T16:52:19Z")

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Thanks for the heads-up. I’ve never read the books, but I love the show. I LOVE his home!

For those who have read the books, how closely does Titus Welliver match your pre-TV mental picture of Bosch? I think Welliver is very attractive. BTW, he is the son of a famous landscape painter and is a [painter](https://www.frankpicturesgallery.com/artists/tituswelliver/index.html) himself.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/7 "2019-04-18T17:49:01Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> For those who have read the books, how closely does Titus Welliver match your pre-TV mental picture of Bosch? I think Welliver is very attractive. BTW, he is the son of a famous landscape painter and is a [painter](https://www.frankpicturesgallery.com/artists/tituswelliver/index.html) himself.

I pictured him about 5’10", with a big cop mustache. More like Eric Winter in The Rookie, (with a mustache). Or even more, one of the cops in the Law and Order episode Narcosis, who planted evidence on the brothel madam. I can’t find pictures of them, though.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/8 "2019-04-18T18:41:21Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> … 1) Bosch is an asshole. The worst kind, the kind that thinks he’s the good guy. Still, he’s the same in the books, though. (personally, I think Connelly writes Bosch based on himself.)…

Yep. It’s actually a running joke for the first several Bosch novels that people call him an asshole about once a book. Then Connelly wrote _A Darkness More than Night_, where Bosch is a relatively secondary character, and you get to see that he is, truly, an asshole.

Too bad he probably doesn’t own the rights to Terry McCaleb any more, because I’d love to see a season of the show based on that book.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/9 "2019-04-18T18:54:44Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Yay! I like the long term crime solving of Bosch. It’s a slow pace but it never drags. And I like all the characters. It has a New York feel, even though it’s set in LA.
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> I do find it unlikely he could afford that house, though.

[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Yjmp5DbxQ) (fifteen second Youtube video) shows the home on Woodrow Wilson Drive that Connelly used as the model for the Bosch house. It’s a much more realistic depiction of what the 600K Bosch got for the TV rights would have purchased in that time and that place.

(I posted this years ago after it was linked from Connelly’s site)

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/10 "2019-04-19T13:58:59Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> 1. Bosch is an asshole. The worst kind, the kind that thinks he’s the good guy. Still, he’s the same in the books, though. (personally, I think Connelly writes Bosch based on himself.)

I think the Bosch of the TV series is pretty close to the older Bosch in the later novels, in that he’s mellowed out a bit, his temper is not as hair-trigger, and his daughter is a priority. He’s still an asshole at times, but he’s more aware of that and actually tries a bit to be less of one.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/11 "2019-04-19T14:31:21Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I do find it unlikely he could afford that house, though.

> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Yjmp5DbxQ) (fifteen second Youtube video) shows the home on Woodrow Wilson Drive that Connelly used as the model for the Bosch house. It’s a much more realistic depiction of what the 600K Bosch got for the TV rights would have purchased in that time and that place.
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> (I posted this years ago after it was linked from Connelly’s site)

Yeah both the books and the TV show describe that away pretty easily as received a pretty large chunk of change when a case he worked on was turned into a movie, which allowed him to buy the house.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/12 "2019-04-19T14:59:56Z")

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Yeah, the house in the youtube video and not the house in the tv series.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/13 "2019-04-20T15:08:40Z")

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Good to see C. Thomas Howell as Harry’s rehab contact.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/14 "2019-04-20T16:33:32Z")

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We sat down last night and watched 5 episodes. Harry is back!

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/15 "2019-04-20T22:31:25Z")

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I like a lot about this series. Bosch himself is a bit grating. He only knows two cuss words, and he doesn’t use either properly. And it’s weird that someone with his specific background turned out so much like Tony Randall’s Felix Unger. The worst thing is how they use a fondness for jazz as shorthand for intellectual depth (Showing a jazz or cubist approach to detective work might be nice, but they haven’t done that with him yet).

Bosch has, like, three separate IA investigations trying to shut him down, but nobody ever talks about firing Crate & Barrel (I’m only on the first episode of season 5, so maybe this will change?). I guess I just don’t understand department politics.

The daughter is growing on me.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/16 "2019-04-20T22:36:22Z")

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Also, they can stop showing us close-ups of Lance Reddick’s finely-chiseled ass. We’ve seen quite enough now, thank you!

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/17 "2019-04-22T01:41:02Z")

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Just realised Maddie was the girl who was lost for half a season in the early seasons of _The Walking Dead_.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/18 "2019-04-22T02:02:29Z")

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> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#):
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> he worst thing is how they use a fondness for jazz as shorthand for intellectual depth (Showing a jazz or cubist approach to detective work might be nice, but they haven’t done that with him yet).

I always get annoyed with that. Bosch isn’t the only show that does that. having a character love jazz doesn’t mean he’s smart or deep or sophisticated. it means he likes jazz. that’s it.

JAQ, jazz hater

🙂

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/19 "2019-04-22T04:00:56Z")

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Like some of the others I’ve read all the books and think that Titus looks quite like I’d expected Harry to appear.

I’ve watched two episodes for Season 5 so far and enjoyed it. I’m not one to delve too deeply into character development as I’m really just looking to be entertained and Bosch does that.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bosch-season-5/832707/20 "2019-04-23T14:38:26Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Good to see C. Thomas Howell as Harry’s rehab contact.

Not sure how much is Hollywood makeup, but he has a great head of hair! I’m all pepper grey, but my hair is nowhere that thick; and I’m very jealous!☹

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