# Boston Bomber guilty on all 30 counts **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 8, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164 "2015-04-08T22:28:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/21 "2015-04-09T01:56:37Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > …I truly believe the most harsh punishment that could be inflicted on this shit stain would be for him to live a long, long life in prison. Day after boring day… Agreed. I want him to rot in anonymity. Also, so long as he’s alive, he can’t be turned into a martyr (right?). No 78 virgins in heaven for you! ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/22 "2015-04-09T02:08:02Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > What’s with the daily mail links? Boston hasn’t been British for centuries! It’s a steady job, but he wants to be a paperback writer. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/23 "2015-04-09T02:14:42Z")
I’ve never understood the “if he gets the death penalty, then we’re no better than him” argument. Were the Allies equal to the Nazis because they both killed people? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/24 "2015-04-09T02:52:31Z")
Capital punishment puts helpless persons to death. War is generally fought against entities that are capable of making war right back. The two are remarkably different. ---
**Author:** ![Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fool_in_the_Rain)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/25 "2015-04-09T09:21:05Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > I didn’t click but idiots are fond of the _Daily Mail._ Islamophobia? A bonus! > > Boston made it _quite clear_ that it did not wish to be British some time ago… I may be a fool, but I’m not an idiot. I didn’t look at the address, it was at the top of the google search - I was just looking for trial information to answer \*\*Trinopus’ \*\*question. Are these better? > [@](#): > > The Associated Press reported that US Attorney Stephanie Siegmann “told the jury that a month before the bombings, Tsarnaev told Tazhayakov and another friend that ‘it was good to die’ a martyr because you would die ‘with a smile on your face and go straight to heaven.’” [http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/07/07/updates-from-the-courtroom-tsarnaev-friend-trial/J96UojOrJr3ZcZXJPvIG3N/story.html](http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/07/07/updates-from-the-courtroom-tsarnaev-friend-trial/J96UojOrJr3ZcZXJPvIG3N/story.html) and > [@](#): > > Dzhokhar Tsarnaev texted his friend that dying as a martyr was an honor, prosecutors alleged as the first Boston Marathon bombing trial began Monday. Tsarnaev texted the defendant, Azamat Tazhayakov, and another friend that “it was good to die” a martyr because you would die “with a smile on your face and go straight to heaven,” prosecutors said, according to The Associated Press. > **[Martyrs 'Go Straight to Heaven,' Tsarnaev Told Friend: Prosecutors](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/martyrs-go-straight-heaven-tsarnaev-told-friend-prosecutors-n149661)** > > Azamat Tazhayakov is charged with obstruction in the case against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who is charged with killing 3 and injuring more than 260. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/26 "2015-04-09T13:50:57Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > [Story](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/09/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-verdict-boston-marathan-bombing-trial.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news). I really hope that he is sentenced to life without parole. I agree. People are calling for the death penalty but as far as I’m concerned death is too good for him. Especially now that I see he wants death in order to become a “martyr.” Fuck him. As a runner myself, the Boston Marathon is our holy grail. The joy of crossing a finish line is like no other joy - especially THAT finish line. How anybody could want to tarnish that innocent joy is beyond me. He and his brother, IMO, are pure evil. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/27 "2015-04-09T14:35:15Z")
Another vote for life in prison. Killing him makes him a martyr and that’s what terrorists like him want. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/28 "2015-04-09T16:44:46Z")
I’m perfectly OK with making a martyr out of him and anyone else who wants to be one. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/29 "2015-04-09T16:57:07Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > As a runner myself, the Boston Marathon is our holy grail. The joy of crossing a finish line is like no other joy - especially THAT finish line. How anybody could want to tarnish that innocent joy is beyond me. Off topic but why is the Boston Marathon special? Aren’t they all 26 point something miles? What difference does it really make? ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/30 "2015-04-09T17:01:15Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Off topic but why is the Boston Marathon special? Aren’t they all 26 point something miles? What difference does it really make? The Boston marathon is held on [Patriots Day](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots%27_Day), which commemorates the first battles of the War of American Freedom. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/31 "2015-04-09T17:37:17Z")
Yes, but why would that have any relevance for Canucks like **Soylent Juicy**? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/32 "2015-04-09T17:42:04Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Off topic but why is the Boston Marathon special? Tradition. It’s the oldest continuously-run marathon in North America, originating in the 1890’s as part of the movement that also resulted in the modern Olympics. And, it’s always been integral to the local community in a way few other sporting events can approach. It’s special in sort of the way the Masters is special in golf. ---
**Author:** ![Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fool_in_the_Rain)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/33 "2015-04-09T18:29:42Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Tradition. It’s the oldest continuously-run marathon in North America, originating in the 1890’s as part of the movement that also resulted in the modern Olympics. And, it’s always been integral to the local community in a way few other sporting events can approach. It’s special in sort of the way the Masters is special in golf. Actually the oldest in the world, per the Boston Athletics Association, and to add of **ElvisL1ves** ’ post. > **[About | Boston Athletic Association](https://www.baa.org/about)** > [@](#): > > The Boston Athletic Association (B.A.A.) has organized the Boston Marathon® since the event’s inception in 1897. **The Boston Marathon is the world’s oldest annual marathon and ranks as one of the world’s most prestigious road racing events**. The B.A.A. continues to manage this American classic, which has been sponsored by John Hancock Financial Services since 1986. **The Boston Marathon has distinguished itself as the pinnacle event within the sport of road racing by virtue of its traditions, longevity, and method of gaining entry into the race (via qualification)**. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/34 "2015-04-09T19:20:42Z")
You can’t just pays your money to run Boston (although you can raise enough charity money and do it that way) - you qualify by running another marathon fast enough. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/35 "2015-04-09T19:25:10Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Off topic but why is the Boston Marathon special? Aren’t they all 26 point something miles? What difference does it really make? > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Yes, but why would that have any relevance for Canucks like **Soylent Juicy**? It’s not the Patriots Day reason, IMO. It’s because it’s so difficult to get into. You have to qualify (and be FAST) in your age group and in order to get that good you have to train like a mofo. It takes serious dedication to commit to the training. Unless you’re running for charity, in which case you have to raise a large amount of money and might still have to qualify, I don’t know. There are only a certain number of spots and you have to be fast enough and lucky enough to get a spot. Only people who are hugely dedicated to the sport get a chance at a Boston registration. But pretty much it’s the bragging rights of being able to say “I ran Boston.” ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/36 "2015-04-09T19:45:46Z")
> [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](#): > > He wrote (carved) inside the boat (that he was captured in) he was jealous of his brother dying because he was now a martyr… Then he’s a real coward. He had plenty of opportunities to die as a martyr - including the lengthy period when he was cowering in that boat and getting shot at. All he had to do was stand up and throw something at the nearest cop, and BLAM then he would have been a martyr. > [@Westley in "The Princess Bride"](#): > > I want him to live a long life, alone with his cowardice. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/37 "2015-04-09T20:47:00Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Tradition. It’s the oldest continuously-run marathon in North America, originating in the 1890’s as part of the movement that also resulted in the modern Olympics. And, it’s always been integral to the local community in a way few other sporting events can approach. It’s special in sort of the way the Masters is special in golf. > [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](#): > > Actually the oldest in the world, per the Boston Athletics Association, and to add of **ElvisL1ves** ’ post. > > [About | Boston Athletic Association](http://www.baa.org/about.aspx) That’s really cool, I didn’t know that. Now I’m wondering what the hardest marathon in the US is. Probably one of the hotter cities. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/38 "2015-04-09T20:58:49Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Another vote for life in prison. Killing him makes him a martyr and that’s what terrorists like him want. Imprisonment makes someone a martyr, too. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/39 "2015-04-09T23:35:13Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That. But not in solitary, where he slowly go insane. **I want him to be visited daily by an imam.** I want to him to go _sane_ instead, to come to understand what he did and how badly he went against the wishes of Allah and how he will pay for it forever and how he can never make it right. Exactly! He and his brother were devoted to a twisted, perverted version of a religion practiced by a quarter of the world’s population. Imagine if the only Christian you had ever met was Fred Phelps. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164/40 "2015-04-10T01:11:31Z")
I was listening to NPR and heard a woman outside the court house. She was a victim of the bombing and came across as a real decent human being. Among other things she mildly praised the defense team. I googled her and found some sites reporting that she had pulled off a major hoax at the bombing. I was like WTF how come NPR wasn’t reporting it? Then I realized the sites were “truther” type sites. Bastards. It’s bad enough to suffer through the bombing. Imagine googling your name and a few hits near the top are reporting that you are a fraud. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-bomber-guilty-on-all-30-counts/717164.md?page=3)