# Boston errors. WTF? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 25, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977 "2004-10-25T02:14:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/21 "2004-10-25T19:33:17Z")
:: Awash in nostalgia :: I miss Dick Radatz. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/22 "2004-10-25T19:52:13Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > What do you expect, when the Sox choose none other than **JOHNNY PESKY** to throw out the first ball of the Series? The guy whose legendary fielding miscue cost them the '46 Series? Which miscue was that? Dom DiMaggio was hurt, Leon Culberson was playing in his place, and his throw to the cut off man Pesky was a huge lollypop of a thing, allowing Enos Slaughter several important full speed strides around the basepaths. By the time Pesky saw him headed for home, (A good throw from the outfield would have held him at third, as it was he was past third and still running when Pesky looked for him at third) he would have needed Perdo’s arm to get the ball there on time. “Pesky held the ball” was a mantra that came about in the following years, yet by all accounts from those present at the time, it was undeserved. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/23 "2004-10-25T19:55:32Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I miss Dick Radatz. Come to a North Shore Spirit game in Lynn next season. Da Monsta is their pitching coach. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/24 "2004-10-25T20:12:29Z")
No drag bunts forcing injured Shilling to cover 1st… Cardinals error. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/25 "2004-10-25T21:19:57Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > Which miscue was that? Dom DiMaggio was hurt, Leon Culberson was playing in his place, and his throw to the cut off man Pesky was a huge lollypop of a thing, allowing Enos Slaughter several important full speed strides around the basepaths. By the time Pesky saw him headed for home, (A good throw from the outfield would have held him at third, as it was he was past third and still running when Pesky looked for him at third) he would have needed Perdo’s arm to get the ball there on time. “Pesky held the ball” was a mantra that came about in the following years, yet by all accounts from those present at the time, it was undeserved. I knew somebody would complain. It’s not so about ''all accounts by those present at the time" - according to Pesky himself, Arch McDonald, who was announcing the game, said he held on to the ball too long. Pesky says he didn’t, but according to Dan Shaughnessy in _Curse of the Bambino_, film footage shows Pesky hesitated slightly. I haven’t seen the footage myself, so I can’t say. But yeah, others were at fault too, and even perfect play by Pesky might not have gotten Slaughter. I agree that Pesky doesn’t deserve the goat’s horns. The goat, whether Merkle, Snodgrass, Pesky, or Buckner, rarely has. But the fact is, deservedly or not Pesky has the reputation as the goat of that Series. I’m not sure what message the Sox were trying to send by bringing him in, but if they do end up losing the Series do to an error, it’s sure to seen as a part of the continuing jinx. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/26 "2004-10-25T22:37:14Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I’m not sure what message the Sox were trying to send by bringing him in, but if they do end up losing the Series do to an error, it’s sure to seen as a part of the continuing jinx. Pesky is still a member of the Red Sox family, and was in the dugout most of this season until MLB made him leave because he’s not a player or coach. He’s greatly beloved by the Red Sox Nation and has been active in the organization for over 60 years. Of course they were going to have him there. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/27 "2004-10-25T23:38:41Z")
I don’t think I can watch the first Busch Stadium game. Fenway puts certain constraints on all away teams, and tends to mute Bawstin’s defensive deficits. Add to that no designated hitters in N.L. parks, and unless the BoSox clean up their fielding act, their offense probably won’t be able to pick up the slack. ::bites nails:: ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/28 "2004-10-26T02:13:11Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > What the fuck is going on with Boston’s fielding? These guys are muffing balls right and left. … tonight it’s … Bellhorn. …! Pokey would’ve had it. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/29 "2004-10-26T03:02:52Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > **Bruce\_Daddy** and I were having a Yahoo Messenger conversation during last nights game when he remarked that with the 4 errors, the Sox looked like a church league softball team. I told him that for the rec league softball team I’m on, 4 errors is good quality defense. Heh. Even my mom, who’s not a sports person, said that first error (where the catcher and third baseman couldn’t decide who was going to catch the ball) looked like something straight out of little league. ---
**Author:** ![Scarface\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Scarface\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarface_Z)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/30 "2004-10-26T15:53:10Z")
hey all i want to say is that if they can make these kinds of errors and still wins, that’s one kick-ass team 😃 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/31 "2004-10-26T16:00:07Z")
But even with the Little League fielding… I’m gonna go out on a limb here, and say: Boston in 5. They lose tonight, then win two in St. Louis to triumph. (Either that, or they win the first three, and the Cardinals pull of a “Red Sox comeback” to win in seven. Irony tends to be painful!) ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Boods](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Ms\_Boods](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Boods)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977/32 "2004-10-26T21:44:21Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Right, he was in AA ball when the Sox traded him and Brady Anderson to Baltimore for Mike Boddicker in 1988. The deal looked good for the Sox at the time; Boddicker was a key part of the '88 and '90 playoff teams, and Schilling and Anderson weren’t obviously going to be stars. Anderson only had one big year for the O’s as it was, and they eventually dumped Schilling. Hey, I’d call being traded to Houston along with Steve Finley and Pete Harnisch for the legendary Glenn Davis being dumped, wouldn’t you? AUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! Thanks so much for reminding this Orioles fan and Steve Finley fan of that wonderful trade. :eek: 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boston-errors-wtf/270977.md?page=1)