# Bot3 - losing the election is \*not\* an acceptable excuse for picking on a person down on their luck!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 8, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351 "2012-11-08T13:31:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/81 "2012-11-09T04:56:13Z")

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I don’t think I’ve ever jumped on another Farker in a Pit thread before. But what Bot3 did is one of the meanest things I have seen around here.

Party politics brings out the dickhead in many people but to start ranting about it in a completely inappropriate thread started by someone who is in terrible trouble must be a kind of sickness. Or at least I hope it’s sickness because the alternative is psychopathy.

I have an excellent memory Bot3, and I will remember this when and if you ever need help.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/82 "2012-11-09T05:09:44Z")

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Heck, I’ve had free home Internet access (dialup) available since 1995 through my school. And this is a rather podunk town. The idea that poor people can’t get online is ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/83 "2012-11-09T05:24:08Z")

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I’m not a legitimate victim, really. I bitch and whine and spend too much time with my head up my ass feeling sorry for myself, especially lately. But I know it was my own fault I ended up here.

And I haven’t spent all my time trying to quit being so homeless, to be honest. A good chunk, yeah- of course. But probably not as much as I should.

I’m doing my best to quit wallowing and be properly productive and take better charge of my life. Truly.

And I seriously, sincerely appreciate the help and kindness I’ve gotten here, including people who have stood up for me. It’s nice to know I’m not alone.

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/84 "2012-11-09T05:24:38Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> One hundred porcupines and a bucket of Candiru!

Porcupines are beautiful creatures that certainly do not deserve such abuse.

I have a rusty chainsaw that I can donate to the cause.

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/85 "2012-11-09T06:01:08Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
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> I’m not a legitimate victim, really. I bitch and whine and spend too much time with my head up my ass feeling sorry for myself, especially lately. But I know it was my own fault I ended up here.
> 
> And I haven’t spent all my time trying to quit being so homeless, to be honest. A good chunk, yeah- of course. But probably not as much as I should.

IMO anyone who is homeless is a legitimate victim of something.

I hope that asshole didn’t make you feel bad. You’re going through something very difficult and I’m sure you’re doing the best you can. And I would be feeling sorry for myself too. Don’t feel like you have to have some great attitude about this, it sucks and you don’t deserve it.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/86 "2012-11-09T07:34:42Z")

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**Dorothy** , there’s some asshole philosophy that posits that poor, downtrodden people have to spend every waking minute of every day being, broke, miserable and trying to improve their situation. That’s complete bullshit. You are allowed to feel badly about your situation, to seek out support and to try and salve your mental health by occasionally doing something other than just simply surviving. Don’t let some colossal asshole whose opinion wouldn’t merit with even those that birthed it, bother you. Obviously, that cretin is beyond fucked up and impressed with their luck in life. So, ignore whatever it spews. I’m certain it’ll have a short tenure here and in no time, you’ll be back on your feet. It, on the other hand, we’ll always be a reprehensible dipshit.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/87 "2012-11-09T13:36:03Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Wow. **bot3** , I recommend baby powder for your rash. It will surely make you feel human again.

I suggest large amounts of prunes and plenty of water. it’s a big stick, though, so you may need surgery. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/88 "2012-11-09T13:47:43Z")

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In addition to the other recommendations for bot3, I suggest an English class or two. He’s hit no fewer than two of my pet peeves in written English–and in one post.

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/89 "2012-11-09T14:46:20Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> In addition to the other recommendations for bot3, I suggest an English class or two. He’s hit no fewer than two of my pet peeves in written English–and in one post.

Well, considering I hit one of **my own** pet peeves in the OP (no, if you didn’t see it yet, I ain’t tellin’ you now! :p) – I’m not joining _this_ particular pile-on :smack: 😃

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/90 "2012-11-09T15:14:59Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> Well, considering I hit one of **my own** pet peeves in the OP (no, if you didn’t see it yet, I ain’t tellin’ you now! :p) – I’m not joining _this_ particular pile-on :smack: 😃

[QUOTE=Noone Special]  
all on it’s own  
[/QUOTE]  
😃

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/91 "2012-11-09T15:26:46Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> Well, considering I hit one of **my own** pet peeves in the OP (no, if you didn’t see it yet, I ain’t tellin’ you now! :p) – I’m not joining _this_ particular pile-on :smack: 😃

Yeah, but its (snerk) ok, because we like you!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/92 "2012-11-09T16:18:28Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> _looks over, notices that Bot looks too clean, throws bucket of shit_

Huh. A bucket of shit out of left field.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/93 "2012-11-09T16:41:51Z")

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Not to defend **bot3** too much, but his Israeli comment could have been related to the relationship that Israel has with the US, not because he is a Jew-hater.

**SurrenderDorothy** , you’ll get a whole lot further in life with an attitude that you’re not a helpless victim than one that you are - I applaud you for that. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/94 "2012-11-09T16:58:30Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Huh. A bucket of shit out of left field.

Hmm…out of left field? Why is it always “out of left field”? And since it’s _always_ out of left field, why is it unexpected? What would be cool, IMHO, would be for that bucket to come from the umpire.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/95 "2012-11-09T17:12:32Z")

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> [@bot3](#):
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> Your location says a lot. I’m not commenting.
> 
> You can pit all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that Dorthy may or MAY NOT be a victim. Yes I question her validity. If it’s true then I sympathize with her and wish I could help. But I suspect, (note “suspect” as opposed to know) that she could do more than complain on the Internet. After the fact and after she gets it together then by all means tell us her story. Although not perfect there are many agency’s that can help her. She did not say she availed herself to those options.
> 
> The truth hurts, huh?

Wait: in your post in the other thread you said that she’s the “type” that wants everything given to her, but now you’re recommending relief agencies? Rather contradictory of you. Sounds to me like she’s just one of the millions of working poor in this country who haven’t yet managed (for whatever reason) to rise to your level of smug self-righteousness. If she is a “type”, it’s the type that is routinely sneered at by people like Mitt Romney and others who can’t see past their own bank accounts. None of us are far from being in the same situation, regardless of how secure you may think you are in this world. Hopefully there will be those who are sympathetic if it ever happens to you.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/96 "2012-11-09T17:20:56Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Hmm…out of left field? Why is it always “out of left field”? And since it’s _always_ out of left field, why is it unexpected? What would be cool, IMHO, would be for that bucket to come from the umpire.

Do we even have a user called **the umpire**? 😃

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/97 "2012-11-09T17:26:30Z")

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Jesus. This has to be the most deserved pitting I’ve seen all year.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/98 "2012-11-09T18:56:25Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> The Republican party in a nut shell.
> 
> “Fuck you! Go eat shit and die! I’m not giving one damn penny to help anyone else! Oh, and **Praise Jesus**.”
> 
> And they say this with no sense of irony at all.

The theme of this pitting is focused on the stupidity of bringing your political inspired hatred into a situation that has nothing to do with politics.

Congratulations on living up to the theme.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/99 "2012-11-09T20:42:38Z")

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> [@bot3](#):
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> Your location says a lot. I’m not commenting.

Ah, yes. Because he’s in Israel. So he’s probably Jewish.

Good thinking on your part to not comment. If you had, someone might think you were a racist or something, right?

> [@](#):
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> You can pit all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that Dorthy may or MAY NOT be a victim. Yes I question her validity. If it’s true then I sympathize with her and wish I could help. But I suspect, (note “suspect” as opposed to know) that she could do more than complain on the Internet. After the fact and after she gets it together then by all means tell us her story. Although not perfect there are many agency’s that can help her. She did not say she availed herself to those options.

You’re absolutely correct on one thing: Dorothy may or MAY NOT be a victim.

She also may or MAY NOT be the Queen of England.

She may or MAY NOT be an extra-terrestrial being from the plant Zorg.

In fact, she may or MAY NOT be quite literally anything.  
You’re right on another thing as well: she didn’t tell us if she’d availed herself of any of the helpful options that are out there.

She also didn’t tell us what she had for dinner last night (assuming she had dinner), or whether or not she went to the bathroom on Tuesday, or what she got for Christmas when she was twelve.

> [@](#):
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> The truth hurts, huh?

I’ll let you know as soon as I hear any from you.

> [@](#):
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> As far as my man winning or losing, is inconsequential. Like I said to me is matters little.
> 
> BTW…You didn’t see any vulgar language from me did you.? Or is that the only way to make yourself heard?

**vul·gar**    [vuhl-ger]  
adjective

1. characterized by ignorance of or lack of good breeding or taste: _vulgar ostentation._
2. indecent; obscene; lewd: _a vulgar work; a vulgar gesture._
3. crude; coarse; unrefined: _a vulgar peasant._
4. of, pertaining to, or constituting the ordinary people in a society: _the vulgar masses._
5. current; popular; common: a _vulgar success; vulgar beliefs._

I’d say definitions 1-3 definitely apply to your posts.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bot3-losing-the-election-is-not-an-acceptable-excuse-for-picking-on-a-person-down-on-their-luck/640351/100 "2012-11-09T20:56:19Z")

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> [@SurrenderDorothy](#):
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> I’m not a legitimate victim, really. I bitch and whine and spend too much time with my head up my ass feeling sorry for myself, especially lately. But I know it was my own fault I ended up here.
> 
> And I haven’t spent all my time trying to quit being so homeless, to be honest. A good chunk, yeah- of course. But probably not as much as I should.
> 
> I’m doing my best to quit wallowing and be properly productive and take better charge of my life. Truly.
> 
> And I seriously, sincerely appreciate the help and kindness I’ve gotten here, including people who have stood up for me. It’s nice to know I’m not alone.

non illegitimi carborundum.

don’t let the bastards wear you down.

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