# Both of the parties should die.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 17, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565 "2010-12-17T22:15:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/41 "2010-12-20T05:20:20Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I find the RPA twee. And Norton was a mild-mannered emperor, I’m not sure who has the qualities to pull that off now.

Somebody mild-mannered and insane . . . Hmmm . . . Have to think about that one.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/42 "2010-12-20T14:53:33Z")

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Adam West?

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/43 "2010-12-20T15:03:53Z")

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> [@Cammacdon](#):
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> Some moron named Hroark

You had me up to this point. You lost me pretty quickly afterwards, though.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/44 "2010-12-20T15:26:40Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> And the third arm? 😉

Gripping hand, party politics is part and parcel of a healthy democracy.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/45 "2010-12-20T16:08:10Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Gripping hand, party politics is part and parcel of a healthy democracy.

The gripping hand is party politics are like God. If it didn’t exist, we’d invent it. If we were living in Libertopia, a bunch of us would get together and start using our collective power to boss around the libertarians. Most of us find that being a member of a tribe is a better deal than being a lone wolf.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/46 "2010-12-20T17:10:37Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The gripping hand is party politics are like God. If it didn’t exist, we’d invent it. If we were living in Libertopia, a bunch of us would get together and start using our collective power to boss around the libertarians. Most of us find that being a member of a tribe is a better deal than being a lone wolf.

**Society** is the tribe.

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/47 "2010-12-22T02:46:37Z")

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Maybe it should be, but part of a tribe is that you feel superior to the fools in the other tribe.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/48 "2010-12-22T14:55:07Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> **Society** is the tribe.

That’s kind of utopian-naive. At very few points in modern (say, post-16th century) history has the entirety of a society, even just a national society, been “the tribe”. Nation-states are just too large and too populated (well, most of them…the exceptions would probably be tiny and homogeneous countries like Andorra, San Marino, or Monaco) to be able to make the whole population one single monkeysphere.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/49 "2010-12-23T17:14:19Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> **Society** is the tribe.

Where? Certainly not here in the United States. Sure, we’re all Americans and we (mostly) stand together against outsiders. But left to ourselves we immediately break down into groups.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/50 "2010-12-23T17:31:43Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> As I always say;
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> _Republicans, right arm.  
> Democrats, left arm.  
> Same Monster._

No no no -

_Republicans, right buttock.  
Democrats, left buttock.  
The SDMB, right in the middle._

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/51 "2010-12-24T04:08:00Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I think somebody got an early Christmas present of some Heinlein novels. Or maybe Ayn Rand.

Yep. This.

Only I was gonna put ten bucks down on the OP being a college freshman. Only 18-year-olds who have just had their first taste of grown-upish discourse write this badly, and argue this vacuously.

(Well, either that, or 18-year-olds who have been listening to too much NIN.)

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/both-of-the-parties-should-die/564565/52 "2010-12-25T00:35:32Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> No no no -
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> _Republicans, right buttock.  
> Democrats, left buttock.  
> The SDMB, right in the middle._
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

That’s funny. I’d always heard it as

_Republicans, right nut  
Democrats, left nut  
generic you, the dick in the middle._

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