# Boticelli Oct. 2019

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 2, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166 "2019-10-02T18:14:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/441 "2019-10-30T15:55:55Z")

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Swept me, too.

> [@atimnie](#):
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> _Considered a beauty?_  
> Take another DQ, I refuse to answer subjective questions like this anymore. I think she’s good looking, but you may have a different opinion. Objective DQs only. Can we make this a new rule going forward?

I wouldn’t. It’s really no more subjective a point than “more famous in other medium than as an actress” or “equally or better known as a singer than an actress.” Some famous women are widely, even universally considered beauties; some famous men are likewise considered handsome.

DQ:

Has won a Grammy?

IQs:

Were you Diego Rivera’s long-suffering wife?  
Did you play the heroine in _Slumdog Millionaire_?  
Were you a noted roboticist and politician on Aurora?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/442 "2019-10-30T16:06:07Z")

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1. Real
2. Female
3. Last name starts with F
4. Living
5. American
6. Known for the arts
7. Born after 1950
8. Known as an actress, equally or better known in another medium
9. Born before 1980
10. Not a director, producer, or screenwriter
11. Born before 1960
12. Not as prolific as an actress, but more known in another medium
13. Equally or better known as a singer than an actress
14. Has never won a Grammy

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/443 "2019-10-30T16:07:21Z")

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_Were you Diego Rivera’s long-suffering wife?  
Did you play the heroine in Slumdog Millionaire?  
Were you a noted roboticist and politician on Aurora?_

Take 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/444 "2019-10-30T18:34:26Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you Diego Rivera’s long-suffering wife? - the painter Frida Kahlo  
Did you play the heroine in _Slumdog Millionaire_? - the Indian actress Frieda Pinto  
Were you a noted roboticist and politician on Aurora? - Dr. Han Fastolfe, in Asimov’s _The Robots of Dawn_

DQs:

Greatest fame before 1980?  
Caucasian?  
Best known for rock and roll?

IQs:

An actress, did you play a sitcom character named Corky?  
Were you that character’s husband?  
Did you create _Downton Abbey_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/445 "2019-10-30T19:13:13Z")

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> [@atimnie](#):
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> _1. Were you the human on a puppet TV show with Kukla and Ollie?  
> 2. Were you the first woman to have a US presidential cabinet position?  
> 3. Did you paint The Nude Maja?_
> 
> 1 is Fran Allison? Take 2 or 3 DQs

Correct on 1; 2 was Frances Perkins; 3 was Francisco Goya.

1. Did you play a housewife-turned-comedienne in the movie _Punchline_?
2. Are you the title character of a Winston Groom novel who says “Being an idiot is no box of chocolates”, a quote that was changed in the film adaption?
3. Were you a conman whose life story was made into _Catch Me If You Can_?  
DQs:
4. pop singer?
5. known for acting in feature films?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/446 "2019-10-30T19:46:39Z")

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1. Real
2. Female
3. Last name starts with F
4. Living
5. American
6. Known for the arts
7. Born after 1950
8. Known as an actress, equally or better known in another medium
9. Born before 1980
10. Not a director, producer, or screenwriter
11. Born before 1960
12. Not as prolific as an actress, but more known in another medium
13. Equally or better known as a singer than an actress
14. Has never won a Grammy
15. Greatest fame before 1980, but active up to today
16. Caucasian
17. Rock singer
18. Not so much pop
19. Mostly small roles in feature films

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/447 "2019-10-30T19:47:48Z")

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_An actress, did you play a sitcom character named Corky?  
Were you that character’s husband?  
Did you create Downton Abbey?_

Not Faith… Ford?  
Not Frank Fontana  
Take a DQ

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/448 "2019-10-30T19:49:24Z")

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_1. Did you play a housewife-turned-comedienne in the movie Punchline?  
2. Are you the title character of a Winston Groom novel who says “Being an idiot is no box of chocolates”, a quote that was changed in the film adaption?  
3. Were you a conman whose life story was made into Catch Me If You Can?_

Not Sally Field, Forrest Gump, or Frank Abagnale

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/449 "2019-10-30T19:50:29Z")

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No more IQs, ask all DQs by this time tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/450 "2019-10-30T19:57:14Z")

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DQ: In the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (either solo or with a group)?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/451 "2019-10-30T20:08:30Z")

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1. Real
2. Female
3. Last name starts with F
4. Living
5. American
6. Known for the arts
7. Born after 1950
8. Known as an actress, equally or better known in another medium
9. Born before 1980
10. Not a director, producer, or screenwriter
11. Born before 1960
12. Not as prolific as an actress, but more known in another medium
13. Equally or better known as a singer than an actress
14. Has never won a Grammy
15. Greatest fame before 1980, but active up to today
16. Caucasian
17. Rock singer
18. Not so much pop
19. Mostly small roles in feature films
20. Neither she nor her most famous singing partner are in the Hall of Fame

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/452 "2019-10-30T22:15:41Z")

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It’s not Marianne Faithfull… I’m stumped, at least for the moment.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/453 "2019-10-31T05:48:07Z")

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Here’s an extra clue, think about a rock star that started out in the 70s and one of his most popular songs of the time, she’s the one singing with him.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/454 "2019-10-31T12:47:15Z")

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Ah, wait a moment. I may have it, but I’ll wait to see if anyone else gets there first.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/455 "2019-10-31T13:23:46Z")

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I can only come up with Lita Ford but that was what? 1991?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/456 "2019-10-31T14:02:38Z")

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I know the song, but I don’t remember the female lead’s name.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/457 "2019-10-31T14:55:52Z")

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All unasked DQs and final guesses in by 3 pm, Central Time.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/458 "2019-10-31T15:44:09Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> I can only come up with Lita Ford but that was what? 1991?

Hi, kitap! Welcome to the game!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/459 "2019-10-31T15:47:33Z")

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I may be wrong, but…

DQ: Are you Ellen Foley (who sang _Paradise by the Dashboard Light_ with Meat Loaf)?

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boticelli-oct-2019/841166/460 "2019-10-31T16:06:34Z")

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Yes, Ellen Foley, who released four albums, appeared in the movie Hair, and a few other movies in small roles, and was on Night Court for one season. Should’ve been bigger than she was. Game is yours, Prof.

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