# Botticelli 2009!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 8, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311 "2009-01-08T00:42:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9dc877/32.png) [@Wash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wash)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/281 "2009-01-12T16:25:09Z")

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Are you a Serbian football player and coach who has played for the US national team? 😃

Have you been both a time-travelling alien and a scarecrow?

Did your sister die the day before you took office as president?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/282 "2009-01-12T21:05:07Z")

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The first one was Al Pacino, and the other Louis Pasteur (cured rabies)

DQs :  
_intimidating tone_ Are you, or have you ever been a Communist ?  
Are you Chinese ?

IQs :  
Did you organize a massive genocide under the guise of “rebooting civilization” ?

Did your most famous role die in a vat of molten metal ?

Are you a non-noble, non-royal blood, non-elected and non-violent king ?

Are you the last of a royal line ?

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/283 "2009-01-12T23:20:27Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> The first one was Al Pacino, and the other Louis Pasteur (cured rabies)
> 
> DQs :  
> _intimidating tone_ Are you, or have you ever been a Communist ?  
> Are you Chinese ?\*\*
> 
> IQs :  
> **Did you organize a massive genocide under the guise of “rebooting civilization” ?**
> 
> Did your most famous role die in a vat of molten metal ?
> 
> Are you a non-noble, non-royal blood, non-elected and non-violent king ?
> 
> Are you the last of a royal line ?

:smack: This isn’t the first time I have shouted, “DAMN YOU, PASTEUR!”

I could answer your DQses, yes and no, respectively, but there would be no point because:

Yes, indeed, I am Pol Pot (alias of Saloth Sar) leader of the Khmer Rouge and, briefly and horrifically, Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea.

Congrats and fireworks for **Kobal2**!

ETA\*\* Okay, he was part Chinese, but lots of Cambodians are partially of Chinese descent and he was a citizen of Cambodia, not China.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/284 "2009-01-13T00:55:21Z")

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Woohoo ! And I would like to add that Saloth Sar is a kickass name for a supervillain. The man certainly lived up to his destiny.

And now I’m off to get some work done, but I’ll leave you with an :

**S**

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/285 "2009-01-13T01:25:40Z")

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Did you organize a massive genocide under the guise of “rebooting civilization?” 😛

Is one of a state’s official songs named after you?

Do you consider yourself the queer equivalent of Ms. Landers?

Did you found a luggage company?

Is a multi-purpose arena owned by one of the largest universities in the United States named after you?

Did you replace a governor widely considered the least popular in the history of your state (with an approval rating as low as the single digits)?

Were you present at somebody’s well-known final stand?

ETA: Almost forget:

Did you paint a picture of Venus rising? 😃

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/286 "2009-01-13T02:58:30Z")

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I’m not :  
Josef Stalin  
Jesse Shwayder (Mr. Samsonite)  
[John Rodham Spencer Stanhope](http://www.tamsquare.com/artist/John-Roddam-Spencer-Stanhope/John-Roddam-Spencer-Stanhope-Venus-Rising-From-The-Sea.html) 😃 (did you mean Sandro Boticelli ?)  
Sitting Bull (Custer’s last stand)

no idea about the governor, the arena or the song (Swanee River ?)

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/287 "2009-01-13T03:26:08Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> [John Rodham Spencer Stanhope](http://www.tamsquare.com/artist/John-Roddam-Spencer-Stanhope/John-Roddam-Spencer-Stanhope-Venus-Rising-From-The-Sea.html) 😃 (did you mean Sandro Boticelli ?)  
> no idea about the governor, the arena or the song (Swanee River ?)

Yes, I was going for the eponymous Boticelli, but super kudos to you for finding someone else to fit the bill.🙂

Ohio trivia! 😃

**Gov. Theodore Strickland** replaced the _incredibly_ unpopular Robert Taft (of the Tafts :rolleyes:) He was also considered briefly as Obama’s running mate for the 2008 election, under the belief that he’d help ensure the Ohio vote.

Ohio State University’s Jerome Schottenstein Center is named after **Jerome Schottenstein** , late founder of the Schottenstein Stores Corp, a Columbus-based holding company for various retailers including DSW and Filene’s Basement.

Ohio’s State Rock Song, “[Hang On Sloopy](http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=1878),” is named after and written (loosely) about singer **Dorothy Sloop**.

Oh, and **Dan Savage** , writer of the “Savage Love” sex advice column, considers himself to be the “gay Ann Landers,” even going so far as to [buy her writing desk](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Savage#Ann_Landers).

As for my DQs:

Are you male?  
Are you non-fictional?  
Are you alive?  
Did you ever hold a governmental post?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/288 "2009-01-13T04:01:56Z")

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_sigh_ and Taft did turn up on Google search, too, but there was no mention of his approval ratings on Wiki so I dropped it ☹

Aaaanyway : I am male, I am fictional, alive doesn’t apply and I never held a governmental post.

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/289 "2009-01-13T04:26:32Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> _sigh_ and Taft did turn up on Google search, too, but there was no mention of his approval ratings on Wiki so I dropped it ☹
> 
> Aaaanyway : I am male, I am fictional, alive doesn’t apply and I never held a governmental post.

Taft was _lousy_. His family just rides on their name, but Bob is no William. Pres Taft was actually likeable and, although his administration was far from earth-shattering, he was still a competent and effective executive.

More IQs:

Do people often mistake you for an airplane or a bird?

Were you repeatedly fined for violating a law that outlawed potty mouths?

Must people do exactly what you say, under penalty of elimination, but only if your name is clearly announced prior to the request?

Are children learning history and geography while they track you down?

Do you really, really hate turtles? 😃

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/290 "2009-01-13T05:34:17Z")

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Not Superman  
Not Syl. Stallone  
Not Simon  
Not Carmen Sandiego  
Not Shredder (I thought of Aeschylus first 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/291 "2009-01-13T08:53:15Z")

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Are you a green King monster who hangs out with a donkey and a cat?

Are you a former dictator of a EU nation?

Are you a major former Serie A goalscorer who’s yet to make that much of an impact on the Premier League 😃 (couldn’t resist)

Are you a poster who pesters this thread with questions 😃 (couldn’t resist here either)

Are you a fictional detective?

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/292 "2009-01-13T09:38:36Z")

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Have you protected kids, killed aliens, trashed robots and are at present in government?

Did you write some of the most famous pieces of Nordic literature?

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/293 "2009-01-13T10:00:50Z")

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Do many US university graduates write checks out to you? (bit of a stretch, but work with me here) 🙂

Are you a notorious Night Elf demon hunter with a chip on his shoulder?

Are you a Canadian-born center who played your entire professional career for one American team, retired in the past few years, and had a governor declare a holiday in your honor?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/294 "2009-01-13T10:05:00Z")

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Are you a reclusive author famous for inspiring assassins?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/295 "2009-01-13T10:31:25Z")

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Not Shrek  
Not Josef Stalin (Russia annexed Estonia during WW2, Estonia is now part of the EU, ergo ipso facto, Stalin was dictator of a EU nation ! 🙂 Other than him I have no idea)  
… Take your DQ and shove it !  
Not seodoa  
Not Herlock Sholmes (yup, he exists - Maurice Leblanc used him in a few of his Arsène Lupin books because he hadn’t got the rights to the real one)  
Not Anakin Skywalker  
Not Snorri Sturluson

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/296 "2009-01-13T10:34:34Z")

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> [@seodoa](#):
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> Do many US university graduates write checks out to you? (bit of a stretch, but work with me here) 🙂
> 
> Are you a notorious Night Elf demon hunter with a chip on his shoulder?
> 
> Are you a Canadian-born center who played your entire professional career for one American team, retired in the past few years, and had a governor declare a holiday in your honor?

Not Unca’ Sam  
Not Illidan Stormrage  
… Et tu, Brute ?

> [@](#):
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> Are you a reclusive author famous for inspiring assassins?

… Tom Clancy ? I got nothin’

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/297 "2009-01-13T10:41:00Z")

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Shevshenko has yet to make that big of an impact at Chelski, but was a major player with AC Milan 🙂

DQ: Are you a movie character?

And since I wasn’t thinking about Stalin, Anakin or Sholmes (wtf!):

IQ: Have you played a protector of children, a slayer of aliens, a thrasher of robots but are now involved in government?

IQ: Are you a fictional bad-ass American detective?

IQ: Are you the former dictator of a westerly European nation?

IQ: Did you sail the seas, battling monsters and other mythical creatures?

IQ: Are you one of the most famous Soviet authors?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/298 "2009-01-13T11:01:50Z")

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I am a movie character

Not Schwarzie  
Not Sipowicz  
Not Solhyenitsin (I’m pretty sure I fucked that spelling right up)

The dictator and sailor are yours.

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/299 "2009-01-13T11:04:26Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Not Unca’ Sam  
> Not Illidan Stormrage  
> … Et tu, Brute ?

I was actually thinking Sallie Mae, but Unca’ Sam works, too. 🙂

Steve Yzerman. Born in Canada, spent his entire NHL career with the Detroit Red Wings, and the governor of Michigan proclaimed January 13, 2007 “Steve Yzerman Day.” 😛

Are you a protagonist?

(And I’m sorry for the dirty pool)

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/300 "2009-01-13T11:11:22Z")

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I am a protagonist.

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