# Botticelli 2009!

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 8, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311 "2009-01-08T00:42:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/421 "2009-01-17T21:07:43Z")

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Are you famous for being a swingin’ drunk?

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/422 "2009-01-17T23:04:18Z")

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Never had a Molotov Cocktail, have ya 🙂

Voule vou couce avec moi - or however that’s spelled 🙂

So for the DQ (see, I point out that it’s a dq 😉 ):  
Are you non-fictional?

IQ: Are you an aircraft designer?  
IQ: Do you want to paint everything black?

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/423 "2009-01-18T10:08:49Z")

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> [@WormTheRed](#):
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> Voule vou couce avec moi - or however that’s spelled 🙂

Don’t mind if I do! 😉

IQs:

Do you antagonize cartoon bunnies and attend lectures led by a diminutive Western stereotype?

Have you repeatedly and angrily insisted that the umpire cannot be serious?

Are you gonna make it after all?

Did you play a guy forced against his will to work in _shudder_ a small town out in rural Alaska?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/424 "2009-01-18T12:18:02Z")

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I’m not fictionnal

I’m not Mikhoyan (or however that’s spelled - the first half of the MiG duo)  
I’m not Mick Jagger

@Johnny : I’m sure this is gonna be a headbanger, but I can’t think of a drunken M. Have a DQ

@seodoa :  
Here’s another probable headbanger, but have a DQ  
I’m not John McEnroe  
I’m not Mary Tyler Moore ?  
No idea here, have a DQ

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/425 "2009-01-18T12:30:52Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Here’s another probable headbanger, but have a DQ  
> I’m not John McEnroe  
> I’m not Mary Tyler Moore ?  
> No idea here, have a DQ

**Montana Max** , one of the antagonists from the [Tiny Toon Adventures](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Toon_Adventures) program. His mentor was none other than Yosemite Sam himself.

**Mary Tyler Moore** is correct (re the opening theme), but I would have accepted **Mary Richards** as well.

**Rob Morrow** played Joel Fleischman, a NYC-native doctor who is forced to practice for at least four years in the small town of Cicely, Alaska in order to repay a student loan received from the state.

DQs:

Are you male?  
Are you European?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/426 "2009-01-18T12:45:48Z")

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I am male, and a European citizen

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/427 "2009-01-18T13:26:01Z")

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Are you a French revolutionary?  
Did the planes you designed get shot down over England?  
Are you from a very male planet?  
Are you a red priestess in a world with long seasons?

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/428 "2009-01-18T13:35:21Z")

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Has your relationship with a certain large-beaked penguin ranged from nemesis to chummiest of pals?

Was your attempt at protracted homicide a response to the indignity you were dealt when you weren’t invited to the party?

Was the Christ-modeled savior of your religion bestowed with gifts not of frankincense or myrrh, but whiskey and firearms?

Are you often thrown in the clink for throwing bricks at a certain feline?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/429 "2009-01-18T14:40:23Z")

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Ok, some of these questions are surreal 🙂

Worm :  
I’m not Marat  
I’m not Willy Messerschmidt  
Whu ?! Take a DQ  
I’m not Melisandre of House Baratheon

seodoa :  
WTH ?! See, this is what I’m talking about :). I’m not Billy Madison ? (this wild-ass guess sponsored by the Wikipedia)  
Take a DQ  
… take a DQ, will ya ?  
I’m not Ignatz Mouse ? (Google is my saint and savior by now)

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/430 "2009-01-18T14:50:14Z")

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So you’re not Marvin the Martian.

DQ: Are you a political leader?

IQ: Did you get a bunch of clay tablets on a mountain?  
IQ: Was your funeral attended by both your wife and legitimate children and your mistress and your child with her?  
IQ: Is your smile among the most famous smiles in the world?  
IQ: Did your wife go on a killing spree and go mad?

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/431 "2009-01-18T15:09:51Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> seodoa :  
> WTH ?! See, this is what I’m talking about :). I’m not Billy Madison ? (this wild-ass guess sponsored by the Wikipedia)  
> Take a DQ  
> … take a DQ, will ya ?  
> I’m not Ignatz Mouse ? (Google is my saint and savior by now)

Heheh, I apologize, but these are fun to ask! 😃 Congrats on Ignatz Mouse, by the way.

**Milquetoast the Cockroach** was originally introduced in the Bloom County comics as a nemesis for Opus the Penguin, but, by the time of the Outland comic strip, they had become really close friends.

**Maleficent the Dark Fairy** , incensed that she had not been invited to Princess Aurora’s christening, bestowed the famous curse that she would prick her finger on a spinning wheel by the end of her 16th birthday and die.

**Capt. Hank Murphy** , from Sealab 2021, follows the religion of Alvianity, which believes in a Christ-like figure named Alvis who mostly just gets drunk and shoots stuff.

DQs:

Are you alive?  
Were you born in Europe?  
Are you a citizen of a continental European nation?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/432 "2009-01-18T16:20:39Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> Do you goof off at Camp Swampy?
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> Are you an Alabama auto dealer primarily known for his sporting career?

The first of these was [Beetle Bailey](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetle_Bailey#The_strip). The Lincoln-Mercury dealer is former Alabama Crimson Tide (college) and Green Bay Packer (professional) quarterback Bart Starr (sorry, couldn’t find a good link).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/433 "2009-01-18T19:47:26Z")

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So you’re not Dean Martin.

DQ: Were you born within the past 100 years?

IQ: Are you a famous detective’s nemesis?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/434 "2009-01-19T13:01:31Z")

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> [@WormTheRed](#):
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> So you’re not Marvin the Martian.
> 
> DQ: Are you a political leader?
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> IQ: Did you get a bunch of clay tablets on a mountain?  
> IQ: Was your funeral attended by both your wife and legitimate children and your mistress and your child with her?  
> IQ: Is your smile among the most famous smiles in the world?  
> IQ: Did your wife go on a killing spree and go mad?

I’m not a political leader

I’m not Moses  
I’m not François Mitterrand  
I’m not Mona Lisa  
This sounds like a Greek myth, but damned if I know which. Have a DQ

> [@](#):
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> Milquetoast the Cockroach was originally introduced in the Bloom County comics as a nemesis for Opus the Penguin, but, by the time of the Outland comic strip, they had become really close friends.
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> Maleficent the Dark Fairy, incensed that she had not been invited to Princess Aurora’s christening, bestowed the famous curse that she would prick her finger on a spinning wheel by the end of her 16th birthday and die.
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> Capt. Hank Murphy, from Sealab 2021, follows the religion of Alvianity, which believes in a Christ-like figure named Alvis who mostly just gets drunk and shoots stuff.
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> DQs:
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> Are you alive?  
> Were you born in Europe?  
> Are you a citizen of a continental European nation?

Are those really as famous as Botticelli :dubious: ? No matter.

I’m not alive  
I wasn’t born in Europe  
I’m not a citizen of a continental European nation

> [@](#):
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> So you’re not Dean Martin.
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> DQ: Were you born within the past 100 years?
> 
> IQ: Are you a famous detective’s nemesis?

See ? I told ya it was gonna be a headbanger :smack:.

I was born in the past 100 years, but I’m not Moriarty

So, to sum up :  
Non-fictionnal  
Dead  
Born in the last 100 years  
European citizen but not European born  
Citizen of a non-continental European nation

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**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/435 "2009-01-19T13:22:36Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Are those really as famous as Botticelli :dubious: ? No matter.

Hank Murphy, maybe not, except to all the other Sealab 2021 fans out there, I’ll give you that one.

Milquetoast is a prominent character in two long-running syndicated comic strips. Given the mindset of the average person these days, he’s in pretty decent running for Botticelli status. (and definitely more famous than a few of the cards played previously in this thread)

Maleficent, being the villain in one of Disney’s greatest films, is perhaps more famous than Botticelli, these days. 😉

I’ll be more careful with my questions from now on, though, I promise.

IQs:

Are you a mathematician whose name and set would later be appropriated for a famous screensaver package?

Do you like to say a strongly inflected /haha/?

Are you the red-haired “CHO” of a global corporation?

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/436 "2009-01-19T14:29:22Z")

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I was thinking of Lady MacBeth, but there’s bound to be a similiar Greek myth.

DQ: Are you a political leader?

IQ: Did you offer someone a choice of two pills?  
IQ: Were you raised in the jungle by a funny bear?  
IQ: Did you write one of the first \*management \*books?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/437 "2009-01-19T14:49:56Z")

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> [@seodoa](#):
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> IQs:
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> Are you a mathematician whose name and set would later be appropriated for a famous screensaver package?
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> Do you like to say a strongly inflected /haha/?
> 
> Are you the red-haired “CHO” of a global corporation?

I’m not Mandelbrot  
I’m not Nelson Muntz (didn’t know his last name 🙂 )  
… I give up, whosit ?

> [@](#):
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> DQ: Are you a political leader?
> 
> IQ: Did you offer someone a choice of two pills?  
> IQ: Were you raised in the jungle by a funny bear?  
> IQ: Did you write one of the first management books?

Sorry, forgot to add that in the summary, no I’m not, but you had already asked, pick another DQ

I’m not Morpheus, Mowgly nor Machiavelli

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/438 "2009-01-19T15:10:56Z")

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Another DQ then: Are you an author?

IQ: Did you do weird experiments during WW2?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/439 "2009-01-19T15:17:40Z")

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I’m not an author, nor am I Dr. Mengelle

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/440 "2009-01-19T19:53:39Z")

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Were you a black man, sticking it up to the man? (really lame description)

Are you a former leader of a country, who died before being verdicts were made?

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