# Botticelli 2009!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 8, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311 "2009-01-08T00:42:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/561 "2009-01-30T21:10:00Z")

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Heh, I was gunning for Lee Harvey Oswald, didn’t expect Oliver Stone 🙂 And the other two were Norman Osborn (a.k.a. Green Goblin) and [Daniel “Oz” Osbourne](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer)) of Buffy fame.

DQs :  
Are you an artist ?  
Are you American ?

IQs :  
Are you a one-eyed ornery old bastard who keeps a pair of crows as pets ?  
Do you watch the ships roll in, then watch them roll away again ?  
Did you save the lives of many Jews during WW2 ?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/562 "2009-02-01T10:12:42Z")

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Have you become Death, destroyer of Worlds?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/563 "2009-02-03T19:53:13Z")

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Sorry about the delay – I lost my Internet connection Friday afternoon and couldn’t get on line again until yesterday, when I had to catch up on what I had let accumulate during the weekend.

Anyway…

**Worm** : I did not get my fame from politics, though I was tangentially involved in that field.

I’m not Odin.  
**Johnny Q** : I’m neither Laurence Olivier (who gave the advice to Dustin Hoffman, as I recall) nor J. Robert Oppenheimer.  
**Kobal2** : I’m not an artist, but I am American.

I’m still not Odin (Question #1). I’m also neither Otis Redding (#2) nor Oskar Schindler (#3).  
SUMMARY:

Real American person born in nineteenth century  
Not alive  
Not female  
Not an artist  
Not famous for politics, but tangentially involved (more than a mere voter)

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/564 "2009-02-03T20:58:13Z")

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So we’re back on track 🙂

Lemme see…

Were you a Seminole leader?  
Are you a Japanese who has won a literature prize in Stockholm?  
Did you win a fancy prize you get in Oslo?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/565 "2009-02-03T21:41:10Z")

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> [@WormTheRed](#):
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> So we’re back on track 🙂
> 
> Lemme see…
> 
> Were you a Seminole leader?  
> Are you a Japanese who has won a literature prize in Stockholm?  
> Did you win a fancy prize you get in Oslo?

I’m not Osceola.

I’m not Kenzaburo Oe.

And I’m not Lord Boyd Orr.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/566 "2009-02-03T23:47:32Z")

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Are you the jurist who talked about yelling fire in a crowded theater?

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/567 "2009-02-03T23:57:23Z")

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Did you oversee the peaceful split of two countries?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/568 "2009-02-04T21:26:05Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> Are you the jurist who talked about yelling fire in a crowded theater?

I’m not Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.  
**Worm** : I’m about to oversee your asking of a DQ.

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/569 "2009-02-04T22:48:58Z")

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So you’re not Oscar II of Sweden, who in 1805 saw Norway split peacefully from Sweden.

DQ: Are you an industrialist?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/570 "2009-02-05T18:58:13Z")

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> [@WormTheRed](#):
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> DQ: Are you an industrialist?

Yes.  
SUMMARY:

Real American industrialist born in nineteenth century  
Not alive  
Not female  
Not an artist  
Not famous for politics, but tangentially involved (more than a mere voter)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/571 "2009-02-08T05:34:14Z")

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Are you Al Capone’s Irish competitor?

Are you a surreal Irish humorist and civil servant?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/572 "2009-02-10T19:43:17Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> Are you Al Capone’s Irish competitor?
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> Are you a surreal Irish humorist and civil servant?

I’m not Myles O’Donnell (Question #1). As for the humorist, I doubt you mean Oscar Wilde, so take a DQ after identifying whom you had in mind.

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/573 "2009-02-10T19:48:38Z")

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Are you the wealthiest man in a very big country?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/574 "2009-02-10T20:16:24Z")

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You’re not Dion O’Banion or Flann O’Brien.

DQ1: Is your business entirely legal?  
DQ2: Are you of Irish descent?

IQ: Are you a self deprecating piano player?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/575 "2009-02-10T22:12:00Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> You’re not Dion O’Banion or Flann O’Brien.
> 
> DQ1: Is your business entirely legal?  
> DQ2: Are you of Irish descent?
> 
> IQ: Are you a self deprecating piano player?

Just because I didn’t answer with the Irish gangster you had in mind doesn’t mean I was wrong. Al Capone’s competitors did include [Myles O’Donnell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone#Activity_in_Cicero.2C_Illinois). So I’ll answer one DQ by saying that I was truly a legitimate businessman, although I did face legal action at least once in my life.

And since I don’t know the self-deprecating piano player, I’ll add that I am not of Irish descent as far as I can recall. Hey, you forget stuff when you’re alive – why would that change once you’re dead? 😃  
**Worm** : I’m not Oleg Deripaska, who is (by many accounts) Russia’s richest man.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/576 "2009-02-10T22:26:21Z")

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I was going for Oscar Levant, but I may not have been accurate in my description.

DQ: Were you based in Chicago?

IQ: Did you and your brother reach new heights?  
IQ: Are you a popcorn magnate?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/577 "2009-02-11T19:02:57Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> DQ: Were you based in Chicago?
> 
> IQ: Did you and your brother reach new heights?  
> IQ: Are you a popcorn magnate?

I was not based in Chicago.

I am neither Orville Wright nor Orville Redenbacher.  
SUMMARY:

Real American industrialist born in nineteenth century  
Not alive  
Not female  
Not an artist  
Not famous for politics, but tangentially involved (more than a mere voter)  
Legitimate businessman  
Not of obvious Irish descent

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/578 "2009-02-12T03:00:51Z")

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Did you experience many ups and downs with your most famous invention?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-2009/480311/579 "2009-02-12T17:42:16Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> Did you experience many ups and downs with your most famous invention?

I am not Elisha Otis.

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