# Botticelli #31

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 3, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181 "2008-07-03T13:16:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/61 "2008-07-08T07:48:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Biffy the Elephant Shrew]  
The author of much-derided tracts is Jack Chick (see current Pit thread).  
The protestant reformer is John Calvin.

DQ1: Are you British?  
DQ2: Are you best known for service in wartime?

IQ: Are you an American peanut farmer who came to prominence in the 1970s?  
[/QUOTE]  
Doh! Should have got Calvin.

I am British  
I am not best-known for wartime service.

I am not Jimmy Carter.

> [@Wargamer](#):
>
> Are you European?  
> Is your fame related to your military service?  
> IQ: Did you play Lara in a movie set during the late 1910’s?

I’m going to guess Julie Christie for your IQ, if I’m wrong take 3 DQs as your other two have been covered by **Biffy** ’s.

> [@LHOD](#):
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> DQ: Were you European?
> 
> IQ: Do you like to wish upon a star?

See above, take 2 DQs.

> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> DQ: Were you killed in battle?

I was not killed in battle. You are still owed another DQ.

All other unanswered IQs can take a further DQ.

Update:

Male  
Real Person  
Dead  
Not American  
Alive during 20th century  
Not born after 1899  
Not involved in government/politics  
Have served in military  
Not born before 1800  
Not an entertainer  
Not known for creative work  
British  
Not best known for military service  
Not killed in battle.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/62 "2008-07-08T11:55:43Z")

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Jed Clampett’s Granny was Daisy Mae Moses, on “The Beverly Hillbillies”

Judy Carne said “Sock it to me” every week on TV’s “Laugh-In”

Jacques Cartier claimed Quebec for France  
DQ1: Were you involved in science or medicine?  
DQ2: Were you an explorer?  
DQ3: Were you known for athletics?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/63 "2008-07-08T12:30:09Z")

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Good IQs, but the answers to your DQs are no, no and no :).

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/64 "2008-07-08T12:31:24Z")

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DQ: Are you Scottish?  
DQ: Did you serve in the Crimean War?

Julie Christie was correct, by the by.

IQ: Were you a former Liberal PM?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/65 "2008-07-08T12:34:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
IQ: Do you like to wish upon a star?  
[/QUOTE]

Jiminy Cricket.

DQ1: Are you known for your involvement in crime?  
DQ2: Are you known for your involvement in business?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/66 "2008-07-08T12:38:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Wargamer]  
DQ: Are you Scottish?  
DQ: Did you serve in the Crimean War?

Julie Christie was correct, by the by.

IQ: Were you a former Liberal PM?  
[/QUOTE]  
No and no, and I can’t think of the Liberal PM, so take another DQ.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/67 "2008-07-08T12:41:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
Jiminy Cricket.

DQ1: Are you known for your involvement in crime?  
DQ2: Are you known for your involvement in business?  
[/QUOTE]  
No and yes.

Update:

Male  
Real Person  
Dead  
Not American  
Alive during 20th century  
Not born after 1899  
Not involved in government/politics  
Have served in military  
Not born before 1800  
Not an entertainer  
Not known for creative work  
British  
Not best known for military service  
Not killed in battle  
Not involved in science or medicine  
Not an explorer  
Not known for athletics  
Not Scottish  
Did not serve in Crimean War  
Not known for involvement in crime  
Known for involvement in business

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/68 "2008-07-08T12:48:21Z")

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Jean Chretien, Liberal PM of Canada, during the 1990’s.

DQ: Were you born after 1850?

IQ: Were you instrumental in the rebellion against the machines?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/69 "2008-07-08T13:59:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Did you win first place in the first event of the first Olympics of the modern era?  
[/QUOTE]

John Connolly of the USA, who took the gold in the triple jump at the 1896 Athens Olympiad.

DQ: Are you English (as opposed to Welsh, Scottish, Manx, Northern Irish, etc.)?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/70 "2008-07-08T14:11:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Did you once play a crusty old New York cop named Waldo?  
[/QUOTE]

Did you notice or answer this one yet?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/71 "2008-07-08T14:18:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Wargamer]  
Jean Chretien, Liberal PM of Canada, during the 1990’s.

DQ: Were you born after 1850?

IQ: Were you instrumental in the rebellion against the machines?  
[/QUOTE]  
Yes, and no, but I don’t know who you mean. Is this the game with the lowest-ever percentage of IQs correctly answered?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/72 "2008-07-08T14:20:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
John Connolly of the USA, who took the gold in the triple jump at the 1896 Athens Olympiad.

DQ: Are you English (as opposed to Welsh, Scottish, Manx, Northern Irish, etc.)?  
[/QUOTE]  
Yes.

> [@Elendil's Heir](#):
>
> Did you notice or answer this one yet?

Yes and no - I’ve been awarding DQs in batches when several have appeared that I haven’t been able to answer. Take another DQ.

ETA update:

Male  
Real Person  
Dead  
Not American  
Alive during 20th century  
Not born after 1899  
Not involved in government/politics  
Have served in military  
Not born before 1800  
Not an entertainer  
Not known for creative work  
British  
Not best known for military service  
Not killed in battle  
Not involved in science or medicine  
Not an explorer  
Not known for athletics  
Not Scottish  
Did not serve in Crimean War  
Not known for involvement in crime  
Known for involvement in business  
Born after 1850  
English

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/73 "2008-07-08T14:28:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Did you once play a crusty old New York cop named Waldo?  
[/QUOTE]

James Cagney in _Ragtime_, his final screen role.

DQ: Were you very wealthy by the end of your life?

IQ: Were you a noted British salt miner and philanthropist?

IQ: Did you establish a British chocolate empire?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/74 "2008-07-08T15:09:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
James Cagney in _Ragtime_, his final screen role.

DQ: Were you very wealthy by the end of your life?

IQ: Were you a noted British salt miner and philanthropist?

IQ: Did you establish a British chocolate empire?  
[/QUOTE]  
Yes, no (take a DQ), and no, I’m not James Cadbury.

ETA: Damn, it was so close between John and James, and I took the wrong one- take another DQ!

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/75 "2008-07-08T15:44:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Wargamer]  
Jean Chretien, Liberal PM of Canada, during the 1990’s.

DQ: Were you born after 1850?

IQ: Were you instrumental in the rebellion against the machines?  
[/QUOTE]

John Connor - from the _Terminator_ movies.

DQ: Were you the owner of the business you were noted for, rather than an employee?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/76 "2008-07-08T16:01:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Wargamer]  
DQ: Were you the owner of the business you were noted for, rather than an employee?  
[/QUOTE]  
Yes.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/77 "2008-07-08T16:55:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
…IQ: Were you a noted British salt miner and philanthropist?  
[/QUOTE]

John Corbett.

Did you found a major British supermarket chain?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/78 "2008-07-08T17:01:11Z")

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YES! I am [Jack Cohen](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Cohen_%28Tesco%29), founder of Tesco - thought someone would get it soon, you just beat **Wargamer** to it.

Congratulations to **Elendil’s Heir** , and thanks to all who played.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/79 "2008-07-08T17:14:22Z")

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Thanks! That was fun. I’ll try to start a new round of Botticelli later today.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-31/455181/80 "2008-07-08T19:37:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
John Connolly of the USA, who took the gold in the triple jump at the 1896 Athens Olympiad.  
[/QUOTE]

Actually, his first name was [James.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Connolly_%28athletics%29)

Also, **astorian** got the Clampett-Moses relationship wrong – Granny was Jed’s [mother-in-law.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jed_Clampett)

The diver I had in mind was [Jennifer Chandler.](http://www.hickoksports.com/biograph/chandlrj.shtml)

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