# Botticelli #40 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 11, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601 "2008-08-11T13:30:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/41 "2008-08-12T17:04:34Z")
Not Merlin, but I don’t know his first name. Take 2 DQs as I didn’t really know your previous one, just guessed, and I didn’t get the correct first name. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/42 "2008-08-12T18:01:55Z")
[QUOTE=Wargamer] Are you the man who turned the MLBPA into one of America’s strongest unions? [/QUOTE] Marvin Miller. DQ Is this character one primarily of the detective/police/crime genre, as opposed to other genres? IQ Have you scared American parents senseless since the 90’s? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/43 "2008-08-12T18:48:53Z")
Did you break the reserve clause, and bring free agency to major league baseball players? This was Marvin Miller, but I won’t take a DQ because someone else asked about him Did you say appear as yourself in"Annie Hall" and tell a pedantic twerp that he’d completely misinterpreted your theories? THis was Marshall “The medium is the message” McLuhan Did you star in “The High and the Mighty” under a more macho name? THis is Marion Morrison, who adopted the stage name John Wayne Did you keep the beat for the Jimi Hendrix Experience? THis is drummer Mitch Mitchell Were you the Ugly Duckling niece at 1313 Mockingbird Lane? This was Marilyn Munster, on the sitcom “The Munsters” =========== DQ1: Is your creator American? DQ2: Have you ever been a character in a movie? DQ3: Is your creator male? DQ4: Are you considered a “good guy”? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/44 "2008-08-12T19:43:57Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] Did you play one of LA’s finest? [/QUOTE] Still unanswered, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/45 "2008-08-12T19:50:37Z")
Are you the only person to play professional baseball in his 20’s, 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s? ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/46 "2008-08-12T20:15:40Z")
> [@](#): > > [Quote=Elendil’s Heir] > Did you play one of LA’s finest? [QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] Still unanswered, I believe. [/QUOTE] [/Quote] You originally asked the question in post #21, and **Dead Cat** later said that each IQ “after post #20” received a DQ, so that includes the identity of “one of LA’s finest”. On that note: [Quote=Sternvogel] My IQ’s: Did Jerry Seinfeld attempt to exploit your lip-reading ability? Are you a baseball pitcher and pitching coach overshadowed by your brother, who’s been much more successful on the mound? [/Quote] The respective answers I had in mind were [Marlee Matlin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lip_Reader) and Greg’s brother, [Mike Maddux.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Maddux) My DQ"s: 1. Are you in a work (or several works) of British literature? 2. Do you die in your character arc? IQ: Were you a rodeo trick rider who took your stage name from a state with which you were associated? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/47 "2008-08-12T20:23:13Z")
Are your first and last names both the same as your rank? ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/48 "2008-08-12T21:29:31Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m going to guess this is something Mrs Max Moseley said during the recent shenanigans, and I’m not him. No, it’s Mr. Micawber from _David Copperfield_. DQ for me! Are you American? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/49 "2008-08-12T22:36:12Z")
[QUOTE=Sternvogel] You originally asked the question in post #21, and **Dead Cat** later said that each IQ “after post #20” received a DQ, so that includes the identity of “one of LA’s finest”. [/QUOTE] Oops, sorry, I overlooked that. Martin Milner was a star of _Adam-12_, about the LAPD. I’ll wait to ask my DQ until I see how the other DQs are answered. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/50 "2008-08-13T00:09:51Z")
People, people! The OP answered way back in post #12 that he was a fictional character, so a lot of these questions are moot. Edit: my question’s already been answered, so I’ll think of another. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/51 "2008-08-13T00:12:10Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] People, people! The OP answered way back in post #12 that he was a fictional character, so a lot of these questions are moot. [/QUOTE] Irrelevant, because then, the purpose of asking those questions is to stump the OP so you can ask a DQ, not necessarily to actually try to find the answer. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/52 "2008-08-13T00:14:00Z")
Ah, got it. Seems underhanded. But I don’t say that as a value judgment. More respectfully. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/53 "2008-08-13T00:30:12Z")
OK, now that I’m clear on the rules: Are you a bass player/keyboardist for a (still semi-)popular band? ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/54 "2008-08-13T00:32:54Z")
My four, in order: The oboist is Mitch Miller, Martin Mull recorded “Dueling Tubas”, Mary Martin went from stripping to a nun, and Max Miller is the music hall performer. My DQs: 1. Are you a character that started in periodical fiction? 2. Have you ever been adapted for television? 3. Did you originate in the English language? 4. Have you appeared in any original work in the last ten years? ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/55 "2008-08-13T00:38:46Z")
Were you ever the IOC boss? ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/56 "2008-08-13T01:01:11Z")
Did you write a best-seller with Irving Wallace’s son? ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/57 "2008-08-13T01:06:13Z")
Do you go by the name “Mr. Speaker”? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/58 "2008-08-13T07:31:29Z")
Sorry for the delay, I’m on UK time! [QUOTE=Wargamer] Marvin Miller. DQ Is this character one primarily of the detective/police/crime genre, as opposed to other genres? [/quote] No. > [@Wargamer](#): > > IQ > > Have you scared American parents senseless since the 90’s? Not Marilyn Manson. > [@astorian](#): > > DQ1: Is your creator American? > DQ2: Have you ever been a character in a movie? > > DQ3: Is your creator male? > > DQ4: Are you considered a “good guy”? Yes, yes, yes, and probably yes, although this character also has some bad points. > [@Wargamer](#): > > Are you the only person to play professional baseball in his 20’s, 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s? American sports, so DQ. > [@Sternvogel](#): > > My DQ"s: > > 1. Are you in a work (or several works) of British literature? > > 2. Do you die in your character arc? > > IQ: > > Were you a rodeo trick rider who took your stage name from a state with which you were associated? No, no, and I’m going to take a complete guess with Mississippi Mike, but I strongly suspect another DQ will be in order :). > [@Biffy](#): > > Are your first and last names both the same as your rank? I’m not Major Major Major Major. > [@Fretful Porpentine](#): > > No, it’s Mr. Micawber from David Copperfield. DQ for me! > > Are you American? Fair enough - yes, I’m American. > [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Are you a bass player/keyboardist for a (still semi-)popular band? I don’t know who you mean, take a DQ. > [@Governor Quinn](#): > > 1. Are you a character that started in periodical fiction? > > 2. Have you ever been adapted for television? > > 3. Did you originate in the English language? > > 4. Have you appeared in any original work in the last ten years? No, no, yes, and no, AFAIK. Also, I’m not Michael Martin, but you can take two more DQs. Summary: Fictional Character in literature Male 20th century Not crime genre American creator Been in a movie Male creator “Good guy” Not British literature Not dead Not in periodical fiction Not adapted for TV Originated in English Not appeared in the last ten years ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/59 "2008-08-13T14:08:56Z")
The pro baseball player was Minnie Minoso. DQ: Was your first appearance after World War II? IQ: Did you change your name and become one of the biggest Hollywood stars ever? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601/60 "2008-08-13T14:55:46Z")
[QUOTE=Wargamer] The pro baseball player was Minnie Minoso. DQ: Was your first appearance after World War II? [/quote] Yes. > [@Wargamer](#): > > IQ: Did you change your name and become one of the biggest Hollywood stars ever? Marion Morrison (aka John Wayne) and Marilyn Monroe (aka Norma Jean) have already been mentioned - perhaps you could be more specific? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-40/459601.md?page=4)