# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/181 "2012-04-11T13:08:22Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ1: Did you do some of your best work Where the Long Grass Blows?
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> IQ2: Is being a Civil War general your second best claim to fame?
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> IQ3: Do you advise people not trust anybody from Five Points?

I’m not Louis L’Amour, but the other 2 have me stumped - take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/182 "2012-04-11T15:16:08Z")

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1. Lew Wallace - Union general who fought at Forts Henry and Donaldson and the Battle of Shiloh, but who is better known for authoring _Ben-Hur_ after the War.

2. Doyle Lonegan, the New York mobster, Five Points native, and target in _The Sting_ who gave that advice to his henchman when Robert Redford let ‘slip’ he was also from Five Points.

DQ1: Are you a real person?  
DQ2: Does your last name begin with ‘L’?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/183 "2012-04-11T15:46:18Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you and your sibling sing together on Seventies TV?  
> Were you elected to JFK’s old Congressional seat?  
> Did a blind judge frustrate you?

Correct as to Donny and Marie Osmond.  
This was Tip O’Neill.  
Correct as to Officer Obie from “Alice’s Restaurant.”

Congrats, **Enginerd**!

IQs:

Were you a President’s longtime and long-suffering secretary?  
Did you help found the Grand Army of the Republic?  
Did you often privately see the Duke of York?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/184 "2012-04-11T17:32:54Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you a President’s longtime and long-suffering secretary?  
> Did you help found the Grand Army of the Republic?  
> Did you often privately see the Duke of York?

Man, I don’t know any of these. DQ away!

> [@Wargamer](#):
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> DQ1: Are you a real person?  
> DQ2: Does your last name begin with ‘L’?

Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/185 "2012-04-11T17:42:47Z")

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IQ 1: Do you favor the color yellow in your jerseys?  
IQ 2: Did you once call your program the “UCLA of the East”?  
IQ 3: Does your spying involve lots of monkey business?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/186 "2012-04-11T17:57:52Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ 1: Do you favor the color yellow in your jerseys?  
> IQ 2: Did you once call your program the “UCLA of the East”?  
> IQ 3: Does your spying involve lots of monkey business?

1. I’m not Lance Armstrong
2. I’m not Lefty Dreisel (but I ( **Enginerd** , not this L person) am from Maryland)
3. No idea - take a DQ

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/187 "2012-04-11T19:56:28Z")

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The spying monkey business was Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp.

Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’

1. Are you still living?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/188 "2012-04-11T20:53:02Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> 1. Are you still living?

Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/189 "2012-04-11T22:51:50Z")

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IQ1: Are you an exiled statesman famous from speaking tours and the talk show circuit?  
IQ2: Are you the namesake of Canada’s largest airport?  
IQ3: Does your most famous character have a ululating scream as a battlecry?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/190 "2012-04-11T23:35:54Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> IQ1: Are you an exiled statesman famous from speaking tours and the talk show circuit?  
> IQ2: Are you the namesake of Canada’s largest airport?  
> IQ3: Does your most famous character have a ululating scream as a battlecry?

1. No idea, take a DQ.
2. I’m not Lester Pearson.
3. I’m not Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, but neither am I sure of this answer. If you weren’t referring to Song of Hiawatha, take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/191 "2012-04-12T00:54:46Z")

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IQ1: What ever you want, do you get?

IQ2: Is your theme song ‘C’est moi’?

IQ3: Do you sell the worst pies in London?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/192 "2012-04-12T01:50:23Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: What ever you want, do you get?
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> IQ2: Is your theme song ‘C’est moi’?
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> IQ3: Do you sell the worst pies in London?

I’m not Lola from Damn Yankees… or either of the other two, whoever they are. Take two DQs.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/193 "2012-04-12T02:35:19Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: What ever you want, do you get?
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> IQ2: Is your theme song ‘C’est moi’?
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> IQ3: Do you sell the worst pies in London?

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’m not Lola from Damn Yankees… or either of the other two, whoever they are. Take two DQs.

That was a Musical Theatre trifecta - Lola is absolutely right. #2 is **Lancelot** from ‘Camelot’, a role for which Robert Goulet was famous. #3 is Mrs. Lovett from Stephen Sondheim’s ‘Sweeney Todd’, whose first song is ‘The Worst Pies in London’.

DQ1: Were you born after 1900?

DQ2: Are you American?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/194 "2012-04-12T03:50:06Z")

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Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.  
4: I was born after 1900.  
5: I am American.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/195 "2012-04-12T04:05:59Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you a President’s longtime and long-suffering secretary?  
> Did you help found the Grand Army of the Republic?  
> Did you often privately see the Duke of York?

Mrs. Landingham, from _The West Wing_.  
Gen. John A. Logan of Civil War fame.  
Lionel Logue, the therapist from _The King’s Speech_.

DQs:

Male?  
Born after 1940?  
Entertainer of any kind?

IQs:

Did you not attend your father’s funeral, even though you relatively easily could have?  
Were you saved by the brother of someone you later had every reason to hate?  
Were you partial to the color _solferino_?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/196 "2012-04-12T04:33:40Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you not attend your father’s funeral, even though you relatively easily could have?  
> Were you saved by the brother of someone you later had every reason to hate?  
> Were you partial to the color _solferino_?

I get the feeling that you and I know very different people. Take 3 more DQs. 😉  
Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.  
4: I was born after 1900.  
5: I am American.  
6: I am male.  
7: I was born after 1940.  
8: I was not best known for being an entertainer.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/197 "2012-04-12T08:37:16Z")

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IQ1: Do you require a security blanket?

IQ2: Are you the actor whose character was said to eat worms?

IQ3: Did you and your friend often burst into the apartment of two girls who worked in a Milwaukee brewery?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/198 "2012-04-12T12:33:52Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Do you require a security blanket?
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> IQ2: Are you the actor whose character was said to eat worms?
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> IQ3: Did you and your friend often burst into the apartment of two girls who worked in a Milwaukee brewery?

I’m not Linus from Peanuts or Lenny from Laverne and Shirley. Take a worm-eating DQ for the second question.

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/199 "2012-04-12T13:16:38Z")

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IQ 1: Did you win your state’s highest award for journalism in your field?

IQ 2: Did you once reply to a political opponent who accused you of being ‘two faced’ “If i had two faces would I be wearing this one?”

IQ 3: Were you married, then not married, then married again to a millionaire?

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/200 "2012-04-12T14:49:19Z")

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1: The Dalai Lama, exiled from Tibet.  
2: correct on Lester B Pearson.  
3: I was going for Lucy Lawless, actor who portrayed Xena. I will hold off on the second DQ since your answer may also apply.

DQ: were you famous for one particular act or circumstance?

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