# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/201 "2012-04-12T16:15:20Z")

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IQ 4: Is it a mistaken belief that a 1920’s dance craze was named after you?

IQ 5: Were you a 1930’s bombshell who died in a 1940’s plane crash?

IQ 6: Are you noted for your method of decribing the Periodic Table?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/202 "2012-04-12T16:18:51Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ 1: Did you win your state’s highest award for journalism in your field?
> 
> IQ 2: Did you once reply to a political opponent who accused you of being ‘two faced’ “If i had two faces would I be wearing this one?”
> 
> IQ 3: Were you married, then not married, then married again to a millionaire?

1. No idea - take a DQ.
2. I’m not Abraham Lincoln.
3. I’m not Lisa Marie Presley? If you were thinking of somebody else, take a DQ.

> [@Baffle](#):
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> 1: The Dalai Lama, exiled from Tibet.  
> 2: correct on Lester B Pearson.  
> 3: I was going for Lucy Lawless, actor who portrayed Xena. I will hold off on the second DQ since your answer may also apply.
> 
> DQ: were you famous for one particular act or circumstance?

I’d say take another DQ for Lucy Lawless - I have no idea if the Hiawatha of Longfellow’s epic actually had a ululating battle cry - it was just the only answer I could come up with.  
Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.  
4: I was born after 1900.  
5: I am American.  
6: I am male.  
7: I was born after 1940.  
8: I was not best known for being an entertainer.  
9. I am not best known for a single act or circumstance.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/203 "2012-04-12T16:25:33Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ 4: Is it a mistaken belief that a 1920’s dance craze was named after you?
> 
> IQ 5: Were you a 1930’s bombshell who died in a 1940’s plane crash?
> 
> IQ 6: Are you noted for your method of decribing the Periodic Table?

I’m not Tom Lehrer. Take DQs for 4 and 5.

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/204 "2012-04-12T16:35:56Z")

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1. Les Nesman, four (I think it was four) time winner of the Buckeye newshawk award for his farm futures reports on WKRP in Cincinnati, Oh.

2. Lovie Howell, who on an episode of _Gilligan’s Island_ dealt with the mistaken belief that the minister who performed her marriage to Thurston Howell the Third was a fraud, and who for a brief period of time, believed she was single again. (Hijinks ensued).

3. I thought the Lindy Hop was named after the Lone Eagle, Charles Lindbergh, but my researching the question discovered that it was called that before the 1927 trans-Atlantic flight.

4. Carole Lombard, the 1930’s Platinum Blonde bombshell died in a plane crash on a War Bond tour in the 40’s.

Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.  
4: I was born after 1900.  
5: I am American.  
6: I am male.  
7: I was born after 1940.  
8: I was not best known for being an entertainer.  
9. I am not best known for a single act or circumstance.

DQs  
10. Did you die after 2000?  
11. Was your noteriety based on a political or military accomplishments?

(I’ll hold off the other 2 until **Enginerd** has a chance to answer the first two.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/205 "2012-04-12T16:53:20Z")

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Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.  
4: I was born after 1900.  
5: I am American.  
6: I am male.  
7: I was born after 1940.  
8: I was not best known for being an entertainer.  
9. I am not best known for a single act or circumstance.  
10. I did not die after 2000.  
11. My notoriety was not based on political or military accomplishments.  
Pending DQs:  
**Wargamer** (2)  
**Spoons** (1)  
**Baffle** (1)  
**Elendil’s Heir** (3)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/206 "2012-04-12T17:14:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you not attend your father’s funeral, even though you relatively easily could have?  
> Were you saved by the brother of someone you later had every reason to hate?  
> Were you partial to the color _solferino_?

Abraham Lincoln. He had some issues with his dad.  
His son Robert Todd Lincoln was saved by Edwin Booth when the young man almost fell from a train.  
His wife Mary Todd Lincoln, who chose White House china decorated in that particular shade of reddish purple: [http://store.jfklibrary.org/Presidential-China/Abraham-Lincoln-Presidential-China/PAAAAAOFJIFEBBFL/3084/Product](http://store.jfklibrary.org/Presidential-China/Abraham-Lincoln-Presidential-China/PAAAAAOFJIFEBBFL/3084/Product)

There was another Abraham Lincoln question asked since. Shall I just ask two DQs?

Inventor or scientist?  
Well-regarded by most people?

IQs:

Did you play an interpreter during a crisis?  
Were you someone important’s “old war horse”?  
Did your character have killer shoes?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/207 "2012-04-12T18:09:36Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’m not Linus from Peanuts or Lenny from Laverne and Shirley. Take a worm-eating DQ for the second question.

DQ: Are you well-known for your work in the sciences?

As for the “worm eating” IQ, I was looking for Larry Linville, who played Frank Burns on the M_A_S\*H television show. For a while, Hawkeye was fond of saying, “Frank Burns eats worms.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/208 "2012-04-12T18:34:28Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> …As for the “worm eating” IQ, I was looking for Larry Linville, who played Frank Burns on the M_A_S\*H television show. For a while, Hawkeye was fond of saying, “Frank Burns eats worms.”

He even taught the phrase to some South Korean refugees.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/209 "2012-04-12T18:44:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> There was another Abraham Lincoln question asked since. Shall I just ask two DQs?

Nah, take the DQ that you earned.

> [@](#):
>
> Inventor or scientist?  
> Well-regarded by most people?

I am neither an inventor nor a scientist.  
I was not well-regarded by most people (which is not to say that I was poorly regarded by most people either).

> [@](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you play an interpreter during a crisis?  
> Were you someone important’s “old war horse”?  
> Did your character have killer shoes?

I’m not Lee’s old war horse James Longstreet, but I don’t know the other two - two more DQs.  
Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.  
4: I was born after 1900.  
5: I am American.  
6: I am male.  
7: I was born after 1940.  
8: I was not best known for being an entertainer.  
9. I am not best known for a single act or circumstance.  
10. I did not die after 2000.  
11. My notoriety was not based on political or military accomplishments.  
12. I am neither an inventor nor a scientist.  
13. I was not well-regarded by most people.

Pending DQs:  
Wargamer (2)  
Spoons (1)  
Baffle (1)  
Elendil’s Heir (1)

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/210 "2012-04-12T18:45:11Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> DQ: Are you well-known for your work in the sciences?
> 
> As for the “worm eating” IQ, I was looking for Larry Linville, who played Frank Burns on the M_A_S\*H television show. For a while, Hawkeye was fond of saying, “Frank Burns eats worms.”

In light of the previous post, would you like to ask a different DQ?

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/211 "2012-04-12T19:30:54Z")

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IQ1: Did you have particular affinity for the star Sirius as you watched the Earth from a high place?

DQ: are you an athlete?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/212 "2012-04-12T19:46:44Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> IQ1: Did you have particular affinity for the star Sirius as you watched the Earth from a high place?
> 
> DQ: are you an athlete?

Я не лайка (I am not Laika).

Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.  
4: I was born after 1900.  
5: I am American.  
6: I am male.  
7: I was born after 1940.  
8: I was not best known for being an entertainer.  
9. I am not best known for a single act or circumstance.  
10. I did not die after 2000.  
11. My notoriety was not based on political or military accomplishments.  
12. I am neither an inventor nor a scientist.  
13. I was not well-regarded by most people.  
14. I am an athlete.

Pending DQs:  
Wargamer (2)  
Spoons (1)  
Elendil’s Heir (1)

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/213 "2012-04-12T21:09:22Z")

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IQ1: Is your best-known opera about a troupe of clowns?

IQ2: Was your music featured prominently in the films of Stanley Kubrick?

IQ3: Are you China’s best known pianist?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/214 "2012-04-12T22:05:26Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Is your best-known opera about a troupe of clowns?
> 
> IQ2: Was your music featured prominently in the films of Stanley Kubrick?
> 
> IQ3: Are you China’s best known pianist?

The closest I can come to any of these is knowing that the opera about clowns is _Pagliacci_, but I had to look up the composer. Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/215 "2012-04-12T23:00:06Z")

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IQ1: Were you disqualified from your best event in the Atlanta Olympics due to multiple false starts?  
IQ2: Are you an electrician who became President despite having no higher education?  
IQ3: Did your boss tell you to “bake 'em away, toys”?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/216 "2012-04-12T23:40:04Z")

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I’m not Carl Lewis (?) or Lech Walesa. Take a DQ for #3, and another if Lewis isn’t correct.

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/217 "2012-04-13T01:21:46Z")

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DQ: Was your sport a team sport?

Will reserve next DQ until next answer.

IQ1: Did you get knocked out by a phantom punch?

IQ2: Did your Pa get booted for being too early?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/218 "2012-04-13T01:41:09Z")

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I’m not Sonny Liston, but you get another DQ for your second question.  
Direct Questions  
1: I am real.  
2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’  
3: I am not still living.  
4: I was born after 1900.  
5: I am American.  
6: I am male.  
7: I was born after 1940.  
8: I was not best known for being an entertainer.  
9. I am not best known for a single act or circumstance.  
10. I did not die after 2000.  
11. My notoriety was not based on political or military accomplishments.  
12. I am neither an inventor nor a scientist.  
13. I was not well-regarded by most people.  
14. I am an athlete.  
15. My sport was a team sport.

Pending DQs:  
Wargamer (2)  
Spoons (1)  
Elendil’s Heir (1)  
Baffle (1, maybe 2)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/219 "2012-04-13T01:49:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Did you play an interpreter during a crisis?  
> Were you someone important’s “old war horse”?  
> Did your character have killer shoes?

Larry Hagman played the President’s Russian interpreter in the movie _Fail-Safe_.  
Correct as to Longstreet.  
Lotte Lenya (sp?) played a Soviet agent with blades at the tips of her shoes in _From Russia With Love._

Thanks for the second Lincoln DQ.

DQs:

Did your sport involve a ball?  
Were you alive in 1980?  
Did you ever compete in an Olympics?

IQs:

Were you once played by someone from a famous sporting-related family?  
Was the fact that your true love was slightly older than you a matter of life and death?  
Do the people of a city who once cheered your every move now almost unanimously hate your guts?

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/220 "2012-04-13T01:52:10Z")

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IQ 2: Laura Ingalls, who’s family was removed from the Oklahoma Territory in _Little House on the Praire_ for jumping the gun and trying to settle before the Land Rush.

DQ: Did your team(s) win any championships?

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