# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/221 "2012-04-13T01:53:58Z")
Hmm, didn’t see **Elendil’s Heir** ’s DQs. I think my one makes 19. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/222 "2012-04-13T02:12:42Z")
My DQ: Did you play your sport professionally? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/223 "2012-04-13T02:20:43Z")
Direct Questions 1: I am real. 2: My last name does not begin with ‘L.’ 3: I am not still living. 4: I was born after 1900. 5: I am American. 6: I am male. 7: I was born after 1940. 8: I was not best known for being an entertainer. 9. I am not best known for a single act or circumstance. 10. I did not die after 2000. 11. My notoriety was not based on political or military accomplishments. 12. I am neither an inventor nor a scientist. 13. I was not well-regarded by most people. 14. I am an athlete. 15. My sport was a team sport. 16. My sport involved a ball. 17. I was alive in 1980. 18. I never competed in the Olympics. 19. My team(s) won at least one championship. 20. I played my sport professionally. Pending DQs: Wargamer (1) Baffle (1, maybe 2) ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/224 "2012-04-13T02:22:55Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Were you once played by someone from a famous sporting-related family? > Was the fact that your true love was slightly older than you a matter of life and death? > Do the people of a city who once cheered your every move now almost unanimously hate your guts? I don’t know any of these. I came up with a bunch of answers for the third one, but none of them seem to begin with L. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/225 "2012-04-13T02:22:58Z")
Another IQ: Are you a former Calgary Flames Stanley Cup-winning hockey player known for his bushy red mustache? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/226 "2012-04-13T02:25:15Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Another IQ: Are you a former Calgary Flames Stanley Cup-winning hockey player known for his bushy red mustache? I can picture him, but I can’t come up with his name! ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/227 "2012-04-13T11:50:47Z")
So we’re at 20 DQs - do you guys want to make some guesses? I didn’t think this person was too obscure when I picked him, but I’m willing to answer a few more DQs if you want to. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/228 "2012-04-13T12:16:55Z")
I’ll take a guess. Are you Leo “The Lip” Durocher, noted tough guy and shortstop on the 1930’s St. Louis Cardinals Gas House Gang teams? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/229 "2012-04-13T12:24:28Z")
I am not Leo Durocher (I was born after 1940). ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/230 "2012-04-13T14:04:55Z")
:smack: Was so focused on the not nice/respected part that I forgot that. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/231 "2012-04-13T16:44:36Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > I can picture him, but I can’t come up with his name! Lanny McDonald. I’ll take a guess: Lynn Swann? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/232 "2012-04-13T17:10:26Z")
I’m not Lynn Swann. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/233 "2012-04-13T19:18:40Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Is your best-known opera about a troupe of clowns? > > IQ2: Was your music featured prominently in the films of Stanley Kubrick? > > IQ3: Are you China’s best known pianist? > [@Enginerd](#): > > The closest I can come to any of these is knowing that the opera about clowns is _Pagliacci_, but I had to look up the composer. Take 3 DQs. Rather moot at this point, but the composer of _Pagliacci_ is **Ruggiero Leoncavallo**. Stanley Kubrick used the music of **György Ligeti** in two films - in _2001: A Space Odyssey_, the apes discovered tools to the tune of ‘Lux Aeterna’, while Kier Dullea flew into the monolith accompanied by ‘Atmospheres’. In ‘_The Shining_’, Ligeti’s ‘Lontano’ set the mood for some of Danny’s creepier discoveries at the Overlook Hotel. **Lang Lang** is a classical pianist who is making a huge name for himself in the West in the last ten years. Side Talk - so, we’ve narrowed it down a bit, but not much. ‘L’ could have lived anywhere between 1940 and 1981 but no later than 2000. The sport could have been baseball, football or basketball - when was basketball added to the olympics? And ‘L’ for a first name could be Lou, Larry, Lenny or a few dozen other names. Hmmm. Off to ponder for a while… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/234 "2012-04-14T04:13:10Z")
Well, we have our twenty DQs, but here are the answers to my last three IQs: > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you once played by someone from a famous sporting-related family? > Was the fact that your true love was slightly older than you a matter of life and death? > Do the people of a city who once cheered your every move now almost unanimously hate your guts? Rooney Mara, who plays Lisbeth Salander in the American remake of _The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo_, is of the Rooney family of Pittsburgh, owners of the Steelers. Logan 5, in _Logan’s Run_, was a little younger than his girlfriend Jessica 6, who was thus scheduled to die before he was. LeBron James, former Cavs basketball player, is not too popular in Cleveland anymore. As to my guess… hmm. Thinking out loud: Larry Byrd is well-regarded by most people, isn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/235 "2012-04-14T15:17:36Z")
Yes, he is well regarded, plus there is the minor annoyance that Larry Bird is still alive and is the General Manager of the Indiana Pacers. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/236 "2012-04-14T15:19:16Z")
If I get another guess, I’ll guess that I am Lyle Alzado, lineman for the Broncos and Raiders, who died of steroid related complications back in the late 80’s or early 90’s, and was on Oakland’s 1983 Super Bowl winners. EDIT: If I don’t get another guess, then I suggest him to someone who has a guess. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/237 "2012-04-14T15:23:19Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > If I get another guess, I’ll guess that I am Lyle Alzado, lineman for the Broncos and Raiders, who died of steroid related complications back in the late 80’s or early 90’s, and was on Oakland’s 1983 Super Bowl winners. > > EDIT: If I don’t get another guess, then I suggest him to someone who has a guess. If somebody else gets your guess, then they’ll win, because I am Lyle Alzado. Congratulations, **Wargamer**! ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/238 "2012-04-14T15:35:57Z")
Well done, **Wargamer**!! ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/239 "2012-04-14T15:36:33Z")
I hope Alzado wasn’t too obscure. He was an All-pro lineman, but he really became the face of the NFL’s steroid issues in the early 1990s when he was diagnosed with brain cancer and died at just 43. Congrats again, **Wargamer**! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/240 "2012-04-14T18:35:21Z")
Yes, even I had heard of ol’ Lyle. Way to go, **Wargamer**! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=13)