# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/281 "2012-04-17T17:34:31Z")
Way to go, **Le Ministre**! > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …Before 1969, did you do something that only two other men have ever done? James Madison, who briefly but directly commanded U.S. troops in the field at Bladensburg, Md. during the War of 1812. The only other two Presidents to have done so were George Washington, in Western Pa. during the Whiskey Rebellion, and Abraham Lincoln, at Hampton Roads, Va. during the Civil War. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/282 "2012-04-17T17:41:19Z")
Congratulations, **le Ministre**! > [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Are you an acclaimed actor and a wizard of a gay rights activist? > IQ2: Do you enjoy a bit of the ultraviolence accompanied by Ludwig Van? > IQ3: Did you and your wife form an early noise-rock band based around unorthodox guitar sounds? These were Ian MacKellan, Malcolm McDowell, and Thurston Moore. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/283 "2012-04-17T18:01:46Z")
Come on **le Ministre** give us an ‘X’ or a ‘Z’, and we can check off the only two undone letters from the list! ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/284 "2012-04-17T18:02:02Z")
Many thanks, everyone. Just for the curious - > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you the man with the horn? > > IQ2: Were you an occasional drummer with The Band? 1. was a reference to Miles Davis’ 1981 album ‘The Man with The Horn’. 2. was Richard Manuel. Though mostly a singer and pianist, he would also play drums whenever drummer Levon Helm was called upon to play mandoline. Manuel was a quirky drummer who played left- and right-handed. In the commentary to ‘The Last Waltz’, Levon Helm described Manuel’s drumming as ‘sounding like a truck with the rubber about to come off one of the tires’. So, next round - I can’t resist the call of our underused letters… **Y it is…** ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/285 "2012-04-17T18:13:08Z")
IQs: Were you part of a noteworthy folk trio? Were a Night Watch warrior who met a bad end? Were you played by a Python star in a generally-panned movie? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/286 "2012-04-17T18:42:19Z")
IQ1: Did you have no fear of the green monster? IQ2: Were you a Tennessee boy who found fame in France? IQ3: Were you famously shown getting a monkey off your back on national television? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/287 "2012-04-17T18:57:04Z")
IQ1: Are you a former Ukrainian prime minister and the most attractive head of state I’ve ever seen? IQ2: Are you a throwback country musician who got his start in LA rock and punk clubs? IQ3: Is your name synonymous with greatness on the mound? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/288 "2012-04-17T18:57:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you part of a noteworthy folk trio? > Were a Night Watch warrior who met a bad end? > Were you played by a Python star in a generally-panned movie? No, I’m not Peter Yarrow, of Peter, Paul and Mary. No clue, other than ‘some one from Terry Pratchett’ and ‘someone from Jabberwocky’. > [@Wargamer](#): > > IQ1: Did you have no fear of the green monster? > IQ2: Were you a Tennessee boy who found fame in France? > IQ3: Were you famously shown getting a monkey off your back on national television? 1. Wild ass guess - No, I’m not Cy Young. No idea on 2 or 3. So, 2 DQs for **Elendil’s Heir** , and at least 2 DQs for **Wargamer**. I’m off to a roaring start… ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/289 "2012-04-17T19:00:10Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Are you a former Ukrainian prime minister and the most attractive head of state I’ve ever seen? > IQ2: Are you a throwback country musician who got his start in LA rock and punk clubs? > IQ3: Is your name synonymous with greatness on the mound? 1. No, I’m not Yulia Timoshenko (sp.?) 2. No, I’m not Dwight Yoakum. (WAG!) 3. No, I’m not Cy Young (which makes me really doubt my response to **Wargamer**.) ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/290 "2012-04-17T19:05:18Z")
Yeah, Fenway opened the year after Young retired. You got all three of mine right, at least! ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/291 "2012-04-17T19:37:25Z")
IQ1: Carl Yaztrmeski, Hall of Fame leftfielder for the Red Sox. IQ2: Alvin York, who won the Congressional Medal of Honor in WW 1 for singlehandedly capturing/killing over 100 Germans. IQ3: Steve Young, who after hearing for years how he couldn’t win the Big One, was captured on the sidelines of Super Bowl XXIX flinging a figurative monkey off his back. DQ1: Are/were you a real person? DQ2: Does your last name start with the letter Y? Reserving last DQ for the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/292 "2012-04-17T20:27:01Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > DQ1: Are/were you a real person? > DQ2: Does your last name start with the letter Y? > > Reserving last DQ for the moment. 1. Yes. 2. Yes. \*\*Summary - Y \*\* 1. Real person. 2. Last name begins with the letter ‘Y’. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/293 "2012-04-18T03:20:07Z")
DQ: Are you currently still living? IQ1: Are you the sixth leading scorer in NHL history? IQ2: Did you help defuse a coup after The Wall fell? IQ3: Are you the quarterback’s Great-great-great-etc-grandfather? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/294 "2012-04-18T03:39:09Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > DQ: Are you currently still living? > > IQ1: Are you the sixth leading scorer in NHL history? > IQ2: Did you help defuse a coup after The Wall fell? > IQ3: Are you the quarterback’s Great-great-great-etc-grandfather? 1. No, I’m not Yvan Cournoyer. 2. No, I’m not Boris Yeltsin. 3. I’m stumped there - take a DQ. To answer this DQ - Yes, I am still living. **Summary - Y** 1. Real person. 2. Last name begins with the letter ‘Y’. 3. Still alive. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/295 "2012-04-18T04:28:31Z")
IQ1: Did you catch passes from Neil O’Donnel in the mid 1990s? IQ2: Did you adopt a new name and eschew a successful music career in 1977? IQ3: Are you a protegé of Christian Dior and an influential fashion designer in your own right? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/296 "2012-04-18T14:00:04Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > 1. No, I’m not Yvan Cournoyer. > 2. No, I’m not Boris Yeltsin. > 3. I’m stumped there - take a DQ. > > To answer this DQ - Yes, I am still living. > > **Summary - Y** > > 1. Real person. > 2. Last name begins with the letter ‘Y’. > 3. Still alive. Actually, Steve Yzerman is the NHL’s sixth leading scorer. And knowing that Steve Young is a Mormon would help you deduce that his great-to-the-nth-grandfather was none other than Brigham Young. Hmm. I’ll hold those two DQs to let some other folks have a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/297 "2012-04-18T14:01:34Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Did you catch passes from Neil O’Donnel in the mid 1990s? > IQ2: Did you adopt a new name and eschew a successful music career in 1977? > IQ3: Are you a protegé of Christian Dior and an influential fashion designer in your own right? 1. I don’t know; take a DQ. 2. No, I’m not Yusef Islam, formerly Cat Stevens. 3. No, I’m not Yves Saint Laurent. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/298 "2012-04-18T14:05:10Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > Actually, Steve Yzerman is the NHL’s sixth leading scorer. I’m showing my age - the first hockey player with a ‘y’ in his name that comes to mind will forever be Cournoyer. It was late last night when I realized ‘There’s no way Cournoyer could be number six in a post-Gretzky universe…’ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/299 "2012-04-18T14:52:44Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Are you a former Ukrainian prime minister and the most attractive head of state I’ve ever seen?.. Nitpick: Head of government. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you part of a noteworthy folk trio? > Were a Night Watch warrior who met a bad end? > Were you played by a Python star in a generally-panned movie? Correct as to Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul and Mary. Yorren was killed by the bad guys in George R.R. Martin’s _A Clash of Kings_. Yellowbeard was a pirate played by Graham Chapman in the movie of the same name. DQs: American? Male? IQs: Were you a Confederate diplomat who failed? Were you admired by Chandler and Joey? Was your name originally used with derision? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/300 "2012-04-18T15:35:35Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > American? > Male? No, I’m not American (though I could easily be mistaken for one). Yes, I’m male. > [@](#): > > IQs: > > Were you a Confederate diplomat who failed? > Were you admired by Chandler and Joey? > Was your name originally used with derision? Nope, I have nothing. That would be three juicy, bacon-flavoured DQs for you… \*\*Summary - Y \*\* 1. Real person. 2. Last name begins with the letter ‘Y’. 3. Still alive. 4. Not American. 5. Male. Outstanding DQs - 2 to **Wargamer** 3 to **Elendil’s Heir** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=16)