# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/321 "2012-04-19T03:12:42Z")
IQ: Did you host a classic film show on an Ontario-specific TV channel? (For some reason, I am having a real problem thinking of “Y” people!) ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/322 "2012-04-19T07:17:52Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ1: Did you travel 20 million miles to Earth? > IQ2: Can you cook? > IQ3: Were you one of the founders of Bagism? > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > 1. No, I’m not Yan of ‘Yan can Cook’. > > 1 and 3 ring vague bells, but earn you DQs. 1: You are not Ymir, the Venusian monster from Ray Harryhausen’s first color film _20 Million Miles To Earth_. 2: You are correct about Martin Yan. 3: You are not Yoko Ono. Nothing in the DQ answers so far rules out a performer of some sort. Canadian writer/performer? I can’t think of any ‘Y’ people from SCTV or Kids in the Hall. DQ1: Are you a performer of some sort? I’ll hold on to DQ2 while I ponder some more. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/323 "2012-04-19T11:41:49Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > IQ: Did you host a classic film show on an Ontario-specific TV channel? > > (For some reason, I am having a real problem thinking of “Y” people!) No, I’m not Elwy Yost, blessed be his memory. Saturday Night at the Movies on TVO was how this film buff got his fix for years, and the interviews between features were outstanding. Elwy Yost remembered films that writers, directors and actors had forgotten about, and his deep love of cinema was evident in every word he spoke. > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > DQ1: Are you a performer of some sort? > > I’ll hold on to DQ2 while I ponder some more. No. **Summary - Y** 1. Real person. 2. Last name begins with the letter ‘Y’. 3. Still alive. 4. Not American. 5. Male. 6. Born since 1950. 7. Not European. 8. Entertainer. 9. I am from North America. 10. I do not do my work in front of live audiences. 11. I have won major awards for my work. 12. I am a writer. 13. Not Mexican. 14. Not a novelist. 15. I write in English. 16. Not a performer Outstanding DQs - 3 to **Elendil’s Heir** , who has offered them around 1 to **ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness** ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/324 "2012-04-19T14:49:11Z")
I’ll use one of **Elendil’s Heir’s** DQs: Do the works you author consist mainly of non-book projects such as films, plays, TV or radio scripts, etc.? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/325 "2012-04-19T15:59:10Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > He could be from Central America or the Caribbean - he’s not necessarily Canadian. “North American” to me means from the U.S., Canada or Mexico (a la NAFTA). Anything further south in this hemisphere is Central or South American (or Caribbean, I suppose). May we have a clarification, please, **Ministre**? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/326 "2012-04-19T19:54:02Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > “North American” to me means from the U.S., Canada or Mexico (a la NAFTA). Anything further south in this hemisphere is Central or South American (or Caribbean, I suppose). May we have a clarification, please, **Ministre**? Yes, you may. In my opinion, the question ‘Are you American?’ is intended to refer to a citizen of the United States of America, and would not cover a Greenlander, Canadian, Mexican or Jamaican person. I correctly answered ‘No, I am not an American’. ‘Though I could be mistaken for one’ is a way of saying that this persons’ citizenship may not have leaped out at you. There is no descriptor other than the name of the country for the region of North America where this person comes from. Geographically speaking, North America includes Central America, Greenland and the Carribean. Culturally speaking, most people use North America to describe Mexico, the USA and Canada only, a la NAFTA. Our language can be so painfully imprecise, sometimes. I will come out and say ‘I am Canadian’, largely because I don’t want you folks to waste a DQ on that with only 3 left to go. > [@Wargamer](#): > > I’ll use one of **Elendil’s Heir’s** DQs: > > Do the works you author consist mainly of non-book projects such as films, plays, TV or radio scripts, etc.? Yes. **Summary - Y** 1. Real person. 2. Last name begins with the letter ‘Y’. 3. Still alive. 4. Not American. 5. Male. 6. Born since 1950. 7. Not European. 8. Entertainer. 9. I am from North America. 10. I do not do my work in front of live audiences. 11. I have won major awards for my work. 12. I am a writer. 13. Not Mexican. 14. Not a novelist. 15. I write in English. 16. Not a performer 17. I am a scriptwriter, possibly including films, plays, TV or radio scripts, etc. Freebie to compensate for linguistic imprecision - I am Canadian. Outstanding DQs - 2 in the name of **Elendil’s Heir** , who has offered them around 1 to **ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness** ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/327 "2012-04-20T02:12:14Z")
Thanks for clearing that up, **Ministre**. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/328 "2012-04-20T15:57:14Z")
No point asking any more IQs. Any DQs anyone else would like to ask? I’m still stumped. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/329 "2012-04-20T17:24:07Z")
I’ll take one of **EH’s** DQs: DQ: Do you write for a strongly visual medium (e.g. TV, theater) as opposed to audio? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/330 "2012-04-20T19:04:56Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > I’ll take one of **EH’s** DQs: > DQ: Do you write for a strongly visual medium (e.g. TV, theater) as opposed to audio? Yes. **Summary - Y** 1. Real person. 2. Last name begins with the letter ‘Y’. 3. Still alive. 4. Not American. 5. Male. 6. Born since 1950. 7. Not European. 8. Entertainer. 9. I am from North America. 10. I do not do my work in front of live audiences. 11. I have won major awards for my work. 12. I am a writer. 13. Not Mexican. 14. Not a novelist. 15. I write in English. 16. Not a performer 17. I am a scriptwriter, possibly including films, plays, TV or radio scripts, etc. 18. I write for a strongly visual medium like TV, Theatre or Film. Freebie to compensate for linguistic imprecision - I am Canadian. Outstanding DQs - 1 in the name of **Elendil’s Heir** , who has offered them around 1 to **ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness** ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/331 "2012-04-21T15:28:07Z")
Well, Hell, it would seem that I’ve gone and done it again… What’s going to help? Do you want hints as to what might be a useful DQ? Other types of hints? I just want to put this puppy down and get on with the game. I have to say that I fear that the ‘Canadian’ thing may be throwing you folks a bit - I’m not speaking of someone that won a Gemini award for ‘Atanarjuat II’ that only ran in a Toronto rep cinema for a week. He has won and been nominated for awards you would have heard of (and probably watched the ceremony for) for works you would have likely seen and certainly heard of. For the record, I’m not a very good DM in D & D, either - I kept devising places that nobody could get out of alive… ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/332 "2012-04-21T16:37:21Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > … I’m not speaking of someone that won a Gemini award for ‘Atanarjuat II’ … Well, Zacharias Kunuk did win a Best Director Genie award for _Atanarjuat_. 😃 (In fairness, I’ll admit that I had to Google that.) Nope, I’m stumped. I vote for some kind of hint. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/333 "2012-04-21T17:00:34Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Nope, I’m stumped. I vote for some kind of hint. Well, you have been the closest so far… ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/334 "2012-04-21T17:03:14Z")
I’ve got a google-aided guess… it sounds like we’re at the point where we’re okaying these, but I’ll put it in a spoiler box in case anybody’s way more stubborn than I am. Are you Graham Yost? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/335 "2012-04-21T17:25:39Z")
My own guess would be that **Enginerd** has it. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/336 "2012-04-21T22:11:54Z")
I’ll use up my last one trying to narrow down the award. DQ: Have you won an Oscar for either Best Screenplay (either Original or Adapted) or Best Director? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/337 "2012-04-21T23:54:30Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > I’ll use up my last one trying to narrow down the award. > DQ: Have you won an Oscar for either Best Screenplay (either Original or Adapted) or Best Director? No. It is, however, moot, as **Enginerd** and **Spoons** have indeed guessed correctly - I am **Graham Yost**. Graham’s films include ‘ **Broken Arrow** ’ and ‘ **Hard Rain** ’, the [awards](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003662/awards) include a pair of Emmys, (out of four nominations) he is the creator of ‘ **Justified** ’. But his biggest claim to fame is undoubtedly the film ‘[Speed](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111257/)’. Speed was the first film script he sold, according to this [interview](http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/justifieds-yost-my-hollywood-breakthrough-15318?page=0,1). I will leave it to the rest of you to determine who should start the next round. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/338 "2012-04-22T00:24:08Z")
Does anybody who hasn’t gone yet want to start the next round? I’m happy to do it, but I’m all for getting more poster involved as well. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/339 "2012-04-22T00:37:17Z")
I’ve heard of those movies and the TV show, of course, but never of him. **Enginerd** , you haven’t been “It” yet, have you? I’d say you should start the next round. And have a look here: [Botticelli - the letters we've used so far - Thread Games - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=648663) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/340 "2012-04-22T04:10:05Z")
Well done, **Enginerd**! As an aside, I had no problem crafting a question around Elwy Yost, Graham’s father (I actually managed to speak with Elwy about movies a few times, as he worked in a building across the street from where I was working back in the early 1980s, and I often encountered him in the area). But Graham was more difficult. I had a feeling that Elwy’s son had done some work in film, but I was unsure exactly what; and moreover, not exactly sure what his name was. It is difficult to craft an IQ under such conditions, so I’m glad that **Enginerd** could come up with his name. So, **Enginerd** , take us into the next round! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=18)