# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/361 "2012-04-23T02:23:05Z")

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IQ1: As a veterinarian, did you attend to all creatures great and small?

IQ2: Do you bust myths?

IQ3: Did you play 15 years for the Dallas Cowboys, but not consecutively, as you took a break to try pro boxing?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/362 "2012-04-23T02:32:06Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: As a veterinarian, did you attend to all creatures great and small?
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> IQ2: Do you bust myths?
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> IQ3: Did you play 15 years for the Dallas Cowboys, but not consecutively, as you took a break to try pro boxing?

1. I’d have sworn that this was James Herriot, but there’s no T there. DQ here.
2. I’m not Tory… whatisname? The younger guy on Mythbusters that blows shit up. I’m not him.
3. I’m not Ed “Too Tall” Jones.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/363 "2012-04-23T02:35:22Z")

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IQs:

Was Dick Cheney’s grandfather named after you?  
Are you a clever Imp?  
Did your husband often wear a turban as a joke in a recent biopic about you?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/364 "2012-04-23T02:42:33Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Was Dick Cheney’s grandfather named after you?  
> Are you a clever Imp?  
> Did your husband often wear a turban as a joke in a recent biopic about you?

1. I’m stumped here - take a DQ.
2. I’m not Tyrion Lannister
3. I’m not Margaret Thatcher?

So 1, maybe 2 DQs for you.

Outstanding DQs:  
le Minstre (2)  
Spoons (1)  
Elendil’s Heir (1?)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/365 "2012-04-23T02:50:54Z")

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Correct as to Tyrion and Thatcher (in _The Iron Lady_). Thomas Cheney was named after Gen. George H. Thomas, “the Rock of Chickamauga,” under whom his father had served.

DQ:

American?

IQs:

Did you play an Englishman appalled by the American fixation on bosoms?  
Did you create your own kind of Bible?  
Did some people doubt your mom was actually your mom?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/366 "2012-04-23T03:06:04Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. A real person
3. Alive today
4. Famous in a way that relates to the arts
5. Not American

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you play an Englishman appalled by the American fixation on bosoms?  
> Did you create your own kind of Bible?  
> Did some people doubt your mom was actually your mom?

Don’t know.  
I’m not Thomas Jefferson.  
Don’t know.

Two more DQs.

Outstanding DQs:  
le Minstre (2)  
Spoons (1)  
Elendil’s Heir (2)

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/367 "2012-04-23T03:33:54Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> 1. I’d have sworn that this was James Herriot, but there’s no T there. DQ here.
> 2. I’m not Tory… whatisname? The younger guy on Mythbusters that blows shit up. I’m not him.
> 3. I’m not Ed “Too Tall” Jones.

James Herriot did write _All Creatures Great and Small_, but one of the people in that book was his associate and fellow veterinarian, Tristan Farnon.

On 2, it was Tory Bellacci (sp?). Still, you got that one. And no problems on Too-Tall Jones.

DQ: European?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/368 "2012-04-23T03:38:52Z")

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IQ1: Do you publicly tell a lot of people that they are fired?

IQ2: Could we, should we, guess your name; should we, would we, win the game?

IQ3: Did you have an excellent adventure?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/369 "2012-04-23T04:02:43Z")

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I am:

1. Male
2. A real person
3. Alive today
4. Famous in a way that relates to the arts
5. Not American
6. European

> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Do you publicly tell a lot of people that they are fired?
> 
> IQ2: Could we, should we, guess your name; should we, would we, win the game?
> 
> IQ3: Did you have an excellent adventure?

1. I’m not Donald Trump
2. I’m not Theodor Seuss Giesel (but I love the question!)
3. I’m not Ted Theodore Logan  
Outstanding DQs:  
le Minstre (2)  
Elendil’s Heir (2)

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/370 "2012-04-23T04:30:22Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> 1. I’m not Theodor Seuss Giesel (but I love the question!)

Thanks! I did have a little fun composing that one. I wish I could be that creative for all of them!

ETA: Correct on all.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/371 "2012-04-23T04:46:39Z")

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IQ1: In a film, did you and Ethel Merman participate in an _ad hoc_ car race to Santa Rosita in order to find buried treasure?

IQ2: Did you take steps to ease the life of a man described as a pachyderm?

IQ3: Do you attend at the Legitimate Businessman’s Social Club, where you enjoy drinking Manhattans prepared by a young bartender?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/372 "2012-04-23T13:07:44Z")

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I’m not [del]infamous Springfield mob boss[/del] legitimate businessman Fat Tony. Take DQs for 1 and 2.

I am:

1. Male
2. A real person
3. Alive today
4. Famous in a way that relates to the arts
5. Not American
6. European  
Outstanding DQs:  
le Minstre (2)  
Elendil’s Heir (2)  
Spoons (2)

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/373 "2012-04-23T14:06:33Z")

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IQ1: Did you have the winning hit in a one game playoff game with the NY Yankees back in the 90s?

IQ2: Did your character captain an unusual submarine?

IQ3: Did your character spend some time in an island ‘paradise’?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/374 "2012-04-23T14:30:25Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ1: Did you have the winning hit in a one game playoff game with the NY Yankees back in the 90s?
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> IQ2: Did your character captain an unusual submarine?
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> IQ3: Did your character spend some time in an island ‘paradise’?

1. I feel like I should know this one. Is it Tino Martinez?
2. No idea - take a DQ.
3. I’m not Tom Hanks.

So one or two DQs for **Wargamer**.  
Outstanding DQs:  
le Minstre (2)  
Elendil’s Heir (2)  
Spoons (2)  
Wargamer (1.5)

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/375 "2012-04-23T14:37:41Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: A bandleader, were you getting sentimental over us?
> 
> IQ2: Were you a chronicler of the agreements and disagreements between fathers and sons?
> 
> IQ3: Are you a poet associated with the Dadaist movement?

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’m not Tommy Dorsey, but that’s all I know - two DQs for you. Was the poet the same one you asked about earlier?

Well done on Tommy Dorsey. The title of **Ivan Turgenev** ’s best known work is usually rendered as ‘Fathers and Sons’ in English. The Dadaist poet is **Tristan Tzara** , and, yes, that was who I’d had in mind previously. I can’t promise he’ll be the last poet - there are a number of good ones with a ‘T’ for an initial…

DQ1: Were you born before 1960?

DQ2: Are you European?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/376 "2012-04-23T14:41:42Z")

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DQ Answers:

1. Male
2. A real person
3. Alive today
4. Famous in a way that relates to the arts
5. Not American
6. European
7. Was born before 1960

I’m still European, but since that was asked earlier you probably want to take a different DQ.

Outstanding DQs:  
le Minstre (1)  
Elendil’s Heir (2)  
Spoons (2)  
Wargamer (1.5)

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/377 "2012-04-23T14:46:45Z")

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IQ 1: The hit was the bunt in the movie _Major League_ by Tom Berenger’s character - Jake Taylor, which scored Willie Mays Hayes from second.

IQ2; The unusual submarine was the Porsche in _Risky Business_ which rolled into Lake Michigan with Tom Cruise on its hood. And the line by the repair guy at the dealership “OK, so who’s the U-Boat commander?”

DQ1: Is your area of the arts related to some sort of musical area - either as an instrumentalist or vocalist or technical area (remembering G. Martin as producer…)

DQ2: Are you a citizen of Great Britain?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/378 "2012-04-23T15:02:06Z")

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Doh! I love Major League. Should have remembered the called shot.

DQ Answers:

1. I am male
2. I am a real person
3. I am alive today
4. I am famous in a way that relates to the arts
5. I am not American
6. I am European
7. I was born before 1960
8. I am related to some sort of musical area (encompassing instrumental, vocal, and technical)
9. I am a citizen of Great Britain.  
Outstanding DQs:  
le Minstre (1)  
Elendil’s Heir (2)  
Spoons (2)

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/379 "2012-04-23T15:30:13Z")

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Ah. I don’t quite know how that happened. Thank you for the do-over.

DQ: Is ‘T’ the initial of your last name?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/380 "2012-04-23T15:33:57Z")

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IQ1: Are you an actor and gay-rights activist?

IQ2: Are you a biologist known for your essays on science, language and music?

IQ3: Are you a Canadian painter who was a huge influence on the Group of Seven, though never actually a member?

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