# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/21 "2012-03-31T15:37:11Z")
Sorry, the hamsters wouldn’t let me add - start us on another round, **Spoons** , you tricky person! ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/22 "2012-03-31T22:43:52Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > IQ3: Did you frequently stow away on aircraft–until you had the misfortune to sit next to Van Heflin? > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Number three stumps me… It was frequent stowaway Ada Quonsett, played by Helen Hayes, in the movie _Airport_. On the aircraft, she was seated next to Van Heflin, who was playing D.O. Guerrero, the guy with the homemade bomb. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Sorry, the hamsters wouldn’t let me add - start us on another round, **Spoons** , you tricky person! Actually, **Le Ministre** , I’m still getting used to the game; so if it’s okay with you and the others, I’ll turn my round over to you, as you were the previous winner. It’s a challenging and interesting game, and I’m enjoying it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/23 "2012-04-01T05:08:54Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Are you a noted record producer? > Did you take on a role that an elderly Jewish man was best known for? > Were you the mentor of a noted fictional doctor? Correct as to Quincy Jones. Zach Quinto played Spock after Leonard Nimoy had done so for awhile. The elderly Dr. Dalen Quaice was Dr. Beverly Crusher’s mentor in ST:TNG. Well done, **Spoons**! ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/24 "2012-04-01T14:36:04Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Zach Quinto played Spock after Leonard Nimoy had done so for awhile. I was undone by my complete inability to conceive of Leonard Nimoy as ‘elderly’. When, exactly, did Spock become ‘old’? I’m happy to go another round as chooser, but I’d like to say - **Spoons** , jump on in! You won that round fair and square. The hardest thing about being chooser is the level of obscure trivia and oblique references about famous people that Dopers can come up with. Think of someone, make a mental list of who might have that initial and have a go! ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/25 "2012-04-02T00:36:38Z")
Okay, upon the understanding that this one might go very fast (I’m unsure of my “oblique reference” knowledge and may end up handing out DQs like water), the initial is… B ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/26 "2012-04-02T01:14:09Z")
IQ1: Are you a suicidal, stuttering mental patient? IQ2: Did you cause all that throat cancer and all that bowel cancer without realizing it was such a hideous disease? IQ3: Are you a country musician famous for being an originator of the Bakersfield sound? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/27 "2012-04-02T01:54:12Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Are you a suicidal, stuttering mental patient? > > IQ2: Did you cause all that throat cancer and all that bowel cancer without realizing it was such a hideous disease? > > IQ3: Are you a country musician famous for being an originator of the Bakersfield sound? IQ1: No, I’m not Billy Bibbitt, of _One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest_. IQ2: You got me; take a DQ. IQ3: I’m going to guess Buck Owens; if I’m wrong, take a DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/28 "2012-04-02T01:56:38Z")
IQs: Did you come to a President’s aid when he needed it most? Did a noted author play your political rival in a movie? Did Wilford Brimley’s character fire your character? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/29 "2012-04-02T02:20:29Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > IQ1: No, I’m not Billy Bibbitt, of _One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest_. > > IQ2: You got me; take a DQ. > > IQ3: I’m going to guess Buck Owens; if I’m wrong, take a DQ. Right on Bibbitt and Owens. The cancer causer was Bruce McCulloch of Kids in the Hall. DQ: Are you real? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/30 "2012-04-02T02:46:03Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you come to a President’s aid when he needed it most? > Did a noted author play your political rival in a movie? > Did Wilford Brimley’s character fire your character? On the first, no, I am not James Brady, who took a bullet meant for President Reagan. On the other two, take two DQs. The Wilford Brimley question has me mulling over his many roles, but none that I can definitely answer your question with. > [@Enginerd](#): > > DQ: Are you real? I am not real. Summary: 1. I am not real. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/31 "2012-04-02T08:17:43Z")
IQ: Do you desire to Kill Moose and Squirrel? ---
**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/32 "2012-04-02T09:28:11Z")
IQ1: Did you plan on operating a shrimping boat after finishing your service in Vietnam? IQ2: Did anyone try to put you in a corner? IQ3: Do you stand 6’6" and weigh 245? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/33 "2012-04-02T13:08:53Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you come to a President’s aid when he needed it most? > Did a noted author play your political rival in a movie? > Did Wilford Brimley’s character fire your character? Your answer to the first is good, so I’ll rephrase: Since 1985, did you come to a President’s _political_ aid when he needed it most? Gore Vidal played the protagonist’s U.S. Senate opponent in the movie _Bob Roberts_. Brimley’s character fired Bob Balaban’s unscrupulous Federal prosecutor in _Absence of Malice_. Two DQs for now: Last name start with “B”? Male? And two more IQs: Did your swimming in the nude cause a stir in your adopted hometown? Did you and your son make a ship using ancient construction techniques? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/34 "2012-04-02T14:30:42Z")
IQ1: Did you use (then) less prevalent statistics to put together low-payroll, high impact baseball teams? IQ2: Are you a kike? A yid? A heebie? A hook-nose? Kosher? A Red Sea pedestrian and proud of it? IQ3: Were you accidentally killed by an ill-prepared stunt gun on a movie set? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/35 "2012-04-02T16:14:43Z")
IQ1: Did Captain Vere have no choice but to sentence you to hang for striking a superior officer dead? IQ2: Did the last goal you ever scored win the Leafs the Cup? IQ3: Are you a legendary prog rock/jazz drummer? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/36 "2012-04-02T18:01:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > IQ: Do you desire to Kill Moose and Squirrel? No, I am not Boris Badenov; who, together with Natasha, is always on the hunt for Rocky and Bullwinkle. > [@Baffle](#): > > IQ1: Did you plan on operating a shrimping boat after finishing your service in Vietnam? > IQ2: Did anyone try to put you in a corner? > IQ3: Do you stand 6’6" and weigh 245? IQ1: No, I am not Bubba, Forrest Gump’s army buddy. IQ2: No, I am not Baby, from _Dirty Dancing_. IQ3: No, I am not Big Bad John, hero of the song of the same name, sung originally by Jimmy Dean. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/37 "2012-04-02T18:12:56Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Your answer to the first is good, so I’ll rephrase: Since 1985, did you come to a President’s _political_ aid when he needed it most? I’m going to guess Jeb Bush–as governor of the state of Florida during the disputed 2000 election, he played a role in getting his brother George into the White House. If I’m wrong, take a DQ. > [@](#): > > Two DQs for now: > > Last name start with “B”? > Male? My last name starts with B. I am male. Summary: 1. I am not real. 2. My last name starts with B. 3. I am male. > [@](#): > > And two more IQs: > > Did your swimming in the nude cause a stir in your adopted hometown? > Did you and your son make a ship using ancient construction techniques? No idea on these–the closest I can come on the first is Burt Lancaster in _The Swimmer_; and on the second, St. Brendan of Ireland. If these are incorrect (and I’m sure they are), take two DQs. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/38 "2012-04-02T18:28:20Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Did you use (then) less prevalent statistics to put together low-payroll, high impact baseball teams? > > IQ2: Are you a kike? A yid? A heebie? A hook-nose? Kosher? A Red Sea pedestrian and proud of it? > > IQ3: Were you accidentally killed by an ill-prepared stunt gun on a movie set? IQ1: No, I am not Billy Beane of the Oakland As; who developed the idea of sabermetrics, otherwise known as Moneyball. IQ2: No idea; take a DQ. IQ3: No, I am not Brandon Lee, who was accidentally shot during the filming of _The Crow_. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Did Captain Vere have no choice but to sentence you to hang for striking a superior officer dead? > > IQ2: Did the last goal you ever scored win the Leafs the Cup? > > IQ3: Are you a legendary prog rock/jazz drummer? IQ1: No idea; take a DQ. IQ2: No, I am not Bill Barilko; who, directly after the Cup-winning game, would be lost in an air crash in northern Ontario; and who would later be mentioned by the Tragically Hip in the song “Fifty Mission Cap.” IQ3: Take a DQ. The only “B” drummers I can think of are John Bonham of Led Zeppelin, who does not fit the jazz parameter, and Buddy Rich, who does not fit the rock parameter. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/39 "2012-04-02T18:47:41Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ2: Are you a kike? A yid? A heebie? A hook-nose? Kosher? A Red Sea pedestrian and proud of it? This was the title character to Monty Python’s [Life of Brian](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=W9dH2HfFVuk#t=210s) (and my apologies to anybody offended by the question). DQ: Are you American? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/40 "2012-04-02T18:52:35Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > This was the title character to Monty Python’s [Life of Brian](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=W9dH2HfFVuk#t=210s) (and my apologies to anybody offended by the question). D’oh! :smack: I should have known that–_Life of Brian_ is one of my favourite movies. > [@](#): > > DQ: Are you American? I am not American. Summary: 1. I am not real. 2. My last name starts with B. 3. I am male. 4. I am not American. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=3)