# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/381 "2012-04-23T16:04:13Z")
IQ1: Did you win an major award for your film scores with Elton John? IQ2: Did you play a washed up catcher who ‘called his shot’? 🙂 IQ3: Is the length of your filmography inversely proportional to your critical acclaim? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/382 "2012-04-23T16:23:45Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you play an Englishman appalled by the American fixation on bosoms? > Did you create your own kind of Bible? > Did some people doubt your mom was actually your mom? Terry-Thomas was the much-put-upon Brit in _It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World_. Correct as to Jefferson. I actually forget the answer to the third question. D’oh! It’ll come to me. Loved the Seuss question, **Spoons**! DQ: Last name start with “T”? IQs: Were you a noted bad guy of the American Revolution? What was the same bad guy’s slightly different name in the movie _The Patriot_? Are you a longtime Republican U.S. senator from Mississippi? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/383 "2012-04-23T16:27:34Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Ah. I don’t quite know how that happened. Thank you for the do-over. > > DQ: Is ‘T’ the initial of your last name? DQ Answers: 1. I am male 2. I am a real person 3. I am alive today 4. I am famous in a way that relates to the arts 5. I am not American 6. I am European 7. I was born before 1960 8. I am related to some sort of musical area (encompassing instrumental, vocal, and technical) 9. I am a citizen of Great Britain. 10. ‘T’ is the first initial of my last name. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/384 "2012-04-23T16:40:32Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you an actor and gay-rights activist? > > IQ2: Are you a biologist known for your essays on science, language and music? > > IQ3: Are you a Canadian painter who was a huge influence on the Group of Seven, though never actually a member? I don’t know any of these - three more DQs. > [@Wargamer](#): > > IQ1: Did you win an major award for your film scores with Elton John? > > IQ2: Did you play a washed up catcher who ‘called his shot’? 🙂 > > IQ3: Is the length of your filmography inversely proportional to your critical acclaim? 1. Is this Bernie Taupin? He’s John’s constant collaborator, but I think he’s primarily a lyricist and I’m not sure if they’ve done film scores together. If not, take a DQ. 2. I’m not Tom Berenger. :smack: 3. I don’t know - take another DQ. > [@Elendil's Heir](#): > > Were you a noted bad guy of the American Revolution? > What was the same bad guy’s slightly different name in the movie The Patriot? > Are you a longtime Republican U.S. senator from Mississippi? I can picture the guy from the Patriot, but I can’t come up with either of the names. Traversomething, maybe? I’m not Trent Lott, so take two more DQs (in addition to the redo of your last one). Outstanding DQs: le Minstre (3) Elendil’s Heir (4, assuming you remember whoever it was had mom issues) Spoons (2) Wargamer (1.5) ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/385 "2012-04-23T17:11:50Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you an actor and gay-rights activist? > > IQ2: Are you a biologist known for your essays on science, language and music? > > IQ3: Are you a Canadian painter who was a huge influence on the Group of Seven, though never actually a member? > [@Enginerd](#): > > I don’t know any of these - three more DQs. 1. **George Takei** is famous for playing the role of Sulu in ‘Star Trek’; he now has a whole other life as a Twitterati (Twitteratus?) who passes on amusingly captioned photos. His gay-rights videos mocking an NBA star and an Arkansas school trustee went viral, and when a Tennessee senate committee approved a ‘Don’t Say Gay’ motion, he offered to let everyone say ‘Takei’ instead of ‘Gay’. 2. This is one of my favourite non-fiction writers from the 1970s, **Lewis Thomas** , best known for the books collecting essays that he wrote for the New England Journal of Medicine - The Lives of a Cell, The Medusa and the Snail, Late Night Thoughts on Listening to Mahler’s Ninth Symphony. 3. This is a Canadian icon - **Tom Thomson** , who died at the age of 39 before the Group of Seven was formed. His style of landscape painting, which captured the raw and powerful nature of the Canadian wilderness, was a huge influence on Canadian art for decades after his mysterious death. I’ll use only one of my DQs at the moment, if I may - DQ - Are you best known as an instrumentalist of any type? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/386 "2012-04-23T17:16:26Z")
I love George Takei - just couldn’t come up with a T name under pressure! DQ Answers: 1. I am male 2. I am a real person 3. I am alive today 4. I am famous in a way that relates to the arts 5. I am not American 6. I am European 7. I was born before 1960 8. I am related to some sort of musical area (encompassing instrumental, vocal, and technical) 9. I am a citizen of Great Britain. 10. ‘T’ is the first initial of my last name. 11. I am best known as an instrumentalist. Outstanding DQs: le Minstre (2) Elendil’s Heir (4, assuming you remember whoever it was had mom issues) Spoons (2) Wargamer (1.5) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/387 "2012-04-23T17:23:27Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > IQ1: In a film, did you and Ethel Merman participate in an _ad hoc_ car race to Santa Rosita in order to find buried treasure? > > IQ2: Did you take steps to ease the life of a man described as a pachyderm? The first is Terry-Thomas in It’s a _Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World_, and the second is Sir Frederick Treves, of “Elephant Man” fame. DQs: Are you best known as a soloist, or as part of an ensemble? Were you born before 1950? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/388 "2012-04-23T17:29:45Z")
Right on Bernie Taupin. The filmmaker was Terrence malick, who only puts out a very few highly regarded films. I’ll reserve my DQ for a moment, until the outstanding DQs are answered. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/389 "2012-04-23T17:39:45Z")
IQ1: Did you play Sal Futurevillian in a film that also starred the Bee Gees; Earth, Wind, and Fire; and George Burns? IQ2: Do you and your men order whiskey for yourselves, but beer for your horses? IQ3: Did you compose a song whose video featured scenes from Fritz Lang’s _Metropolis_? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/390 "2012-04-23T18:02:02Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > IQ1: Did you play Sal Futurevillian in a film that also starred the Bee Gees; Earth, Wind, and Fire; and George Burns? > > IQ2: Do you and your men order whiskey for yourselves, but beer for your horses? > > IQ3: Did you compose a song whose video featured scenes from Fritz Lang’s _Metropolis_? I’m not Toby Keith (2). If I knew all the members of Queen, I wouldn’t be #3, but I’m not sure who wrote _Radio Ga Ga_, and I have no idea about Sal Futurevillian. Take two more DQs. DQ Answers: 1. I am male 2. I am a real person 3. I am alive today 4. I am famous in a way that relates to the arts 5. I am not American 6. I am European 7. I was born before 1960 8. I am related to some sort of musical area (encompassing instrumental, vocal, and technical) 9. I am a citizen of Great Britain. 10. ‘T’ is the first initial of my last name. 11. I am best known as an instrumentalist. 12. I am best known by my own name as opposed to a part of an ensemble 13. I was born before 1950 Outstanding DQs: le Minstre (2) Elendil’s Heir (4, assuming you remember whoever it was had mom issues) Spoons (2) Wargamer (1) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/391 "2012-04-23T18:16:16Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > I’m not Toby Keith (2). If I knew all the members of Queen, I wouldn’t be #3, but I’m not sure who wrote _Radio Ga Ga_, and I have no idea about Sal Futurevillian. Take two more DQs. Correct on Toby Keith. Sal Futurevillian, front man of the Future Villian Band, was played by Steve Tyler (and the band was played by Aerosmith) in the film _Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band_. Roger Taylor, the drummer for Queen, wrote _Radio Ga Ga_. I’ll reserve my DQs until the outstanding ones have been answered. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/392 "2012-04-23T18:18:34Z")
I’ll take my DQ: Were you born before 1935? IQ1 Were you a renowned as a studier of English languages? IQ2 Were you adopted off the street and rise to become a high ranking member of your family? IQ3 Did you become the first Vice-President to succeed to the highest office in the land? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/393 "2012-04-23T18:26:23Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > I’ll take my DQ: Were you born before 1935? > > IQ1 Were you a renowned as a studier of English languages? > > IQ2 Were you adopted off the street and rise to become a high ranking member of your family? > > IQ3 Did you become the first Vice-President to succeed to the highest office in the land? I was not born before 1935. I’m not _consiglieri_ Tom Hagen of the Corleone crime family or President John Tyler. Take another DQ for the linguist. DQ Answers: 1. I am male 2. I am a real person 3. I am alive today 4. I am famous in a way that relates to the arts 5. I am not American 6. I am European 7. I was born before 1960 8. I am related to some sort of musical area (encompassing instrumental, vocal, and technical) 9. I am a citizen of Great Britain. 10. ‘T’ is the first initial of my last name. 11. I am best known as an instrumentalist. 12. I am best known by my own name as opposed to a part of an ensemble 13. I was born before 1950 14. I was not born before 1935. Outstanding DQs: le Minstre (2) Elendil’s Heir (4, assuming you remember whoever it was had mom issues) Spoons (2) Wargamer (1) ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/394 "2012-04-23T18:34:50Z")
JRR Tolkien was a professor of English literature and scholar of old Anglo-Saxon in between writing his Middle Earth books. Did you front a band with your name in the band’s name? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/395 "2012-04-23T18:56:54Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > Did you front a band with your name in the band’s name? A little tough to answer. I never fronted anything like the Marshall Tucker band (fun fact: there’ve been 27 members of the Marshall Tucker Band between 1972 and today, none of whom were named Marshall Tucker), but I have participated in project(s) known by the members names (e.g. John Smith and Mike Doe). DQ Answers: 1. I am male 2. I am a real person 3. I am alive today 4. I am famous in a way that relates to the arts 5. I am not American 6. I am European 7. I was born before 1960 8. I am related to some sort of musical area (encompassing instrumental, vocal, and technical) 9. I am a citizen of Great Britain. 10. ‘T’ is the first initial of my last name. 11. I am best known as an instrumentalist. 12. I am best known by my own name as opposed to a part of an ensemble 13. I was born before 1950 14. I was not born before 1935. 15. I’ve never fronted a full band that included my name, but you should see post 395 for caveats to this. Outstanding DQs: le Minstre (2) Elendil’s Heir (4, assuming you remember whoever it was had mom issues) Spoons (2) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/396 "2012-04-23T19:36:14Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you a noted bad guy of the American Revolution? > What was the same bad guy’s slightly different name in the movie _The Patriot_? > Are you a longtime Republican U.S. senator from Mississippi? Col. Banastre Tarleton. Col. Tavington (I forget his first name). Correct as to Trent Lott, so I’ll revise the DQ: Are you a longtime Republican U.S. senator from Mississippi who never served as Majority Leader? I’m still blanking on the mom issues person. Double d’oh! Early senility, I tells ya… I don’t know any British musicians who fit the answers given so far, so I yield my two (not four) current DQs to whoever’d like to ask them. IQs: Did your mom have a purposefully counterproductive hobby? Were you the last person of your party to hold a particular top job? Did you lose your vision in one eye while living in a famous house? > [@Spoons](#): > > The first is Terry-Thomas in It’s a _Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World_… I’d already asked a Terry-Thomas question. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/397 "2012-04-23T19:51:29Z")
IQ1: Were you a guitarist with the Rolling Stones? IQ2: Did you replace Phil Collins as drummer with Genesis when Phil replaced Peter Gabriel as lead singer? IQ3: Are you one of the living members of The Who? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/398 "2012-04-23T23:19:32Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did your mom have a purposefully counterproductive hobby? > Were you the last person of your party to hold a particular top job? > Did you lose your vision in one eye while living in a famous house? Man, I have no idea who these people are, and Trent Lott is the only Mississippian congressman I know. Take (or offer up for grabs) 4 more DQs. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Were you a guitarist with the Rolling Stones? > > IQ2: Did you replace Phil Collins as drummer with Genesis when Phil replaced Peter Gabriel as lead singer? > > IQ3: Are you one of the living members of The Who? I’m not Mick Taylor or Pete Townsend. I’m not Tony Banks either (I don’t actually think he plays drums, but those prog guys always surprise me so it’s worth a guess). You probably get another DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/399 "2012-04-24T00:01:19Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I’d already asked a Terry-Thomas question. Oops! Sorry about that. Take one of my DQs, if you like. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/400 "2012-04-24T04:12:17Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did your mom have a purposefully counterproductive hobby? > Were you the last person of your party to hold a particular top job? > Did you lose your vision in one eye while living in a famous house? > > …Are you a longtime Republican U.S. senator from Mississippi who never served as Majority Leader? Every night, Telemachus’s mother Penelope undid all of her weaving from the day before to stall her many suitors while her husband Odysseus was away. Zachary Taylor was the last Whig to serve as President. Theodore Roosevelt was blinded in one eye during an amateur boxing match while President. It was kept from the public at the time. And it’s Sen. Thad Cochran. > [@Spoons](#): > > Oops! Sorry about that. Take one of my DQs, if you like. No worries. I’m still stumped! I’ll gladly return it to you - ask away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325.md?page=21)