# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/441 "2012-04-26T20:07:00Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ1: I believe you are referring to Radio Raheem from _Do The Right Thing_, but I’m drawing a blank on the actor’s name. Take a DQ. > IQ2: Not Nancy Spungen of Sid & Nancy infamy. > IQ3: Take another DQ. It was indeed Radio Raheem, played by Bill Nunn. As director of the Hayden Planetarium, Neil deGrasse Tyson pushed against referring to Pluto as the ninth planet. DQs: 1. Are you male? If you don’t mind, I’ll reserve the second until after **Wargamer’s** questions are answered. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/442 "2012-04-26T20:28:39Z")
Way to go, **ChockFull**. Never heard of that Thompson guy myself. IQs: Were you a Southerner with a bad combover who was often discussed as a possible Presidential candidate in the Eighties? In a _Doonesbury_ cartoon, did you insist your husband’s top aide do his best to get your husband a major award? Did a recent proposal to honor you with commemorative license plates lead to controversy? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/443 "2012-04-26T20:50:06Z")
IQ1: Are you a lazy shaver? IQ2: Phil? Phil Connors? Do you remember me?? Bing! Because I sure as heckfire remember you! IQ3: Were you a perfect ‘10’ in Montreal? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/444 "2012-04-26T20:59:58Z")
Good job, **ChockFull**! So we’re on N? Okay some IQs: IQ1: Hens love roosters and geese love ganders, but who does everyone else love? IQ2: Do you light the fire while your ladyfriend places flowers in the vase that she bought today? IQ3: Are you a sportscaster known for covering the Masters? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/445 "2012-04-26T21:20:11Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Way to go, **ChockFull**. Never heard of that Thompson guy myself. [That Thompson guy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxKTzwaEa2o) - just in case you were curious. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/446 "2012-04-26T22:34:58Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > IQ3: I was actually going for Abdel Nasser, who lead Egypt to build the Aswan High Dam, which ended the Nile’s yearly flooding. > > I’ll tke 2 DQs for 1 and 2, and let you decide whether 3 merits a DQ. > > 1. Are you a real person? > 2. Is ‘N’ the first letter of your last name? When I think about it, Noah didn’t stop the flood, he just rode it out. Take another DQ. DQs: 1. No 2. No > [@Enginerd](#): > > DQs: > > 1. Are you male? Yes > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Were you a Southerner with a bad combover who was often discussed as a possible Presidential candidate in the Eighties? > In a _Doonesbury_ cartoon, did you insist your husband’s top aide do his best to get your husband a major award? > Did a recent proposal to honor you with commemorative license plates lead to controversy? 3 DQs for you. > [@Wargamer](#): > > IQ1: Are you a lazy shaver? > > IQ2: Phil? Phil Connors? Do you remember me?? Bing! Because I sure as heckfire remember you! > > IQ3: Were you a perfect ‘10’ in Montreal? IQ2: Not Ned the Head from _Groundhog Day_ IQ3: Not Nadia Comaneci Take a DQ for IQ1 > [@Spoons](#): > > Good job, **ChockFull**! > > So we’re on N? Okay some IQs: > > IQ1: Hens love roosters and geese love ganders, but who does everyone else love? > > IQ2: Do you light the fire while your ladyfriend places flowers in the vase that she bought today? > > IQ3: Are you a sportscaster known for covering the Masters? IQ1: I am not Ned Flanders IQ2: I am not Graham Nash (“Our House”) Take a DQ for IQ3 Summary: N 1. Not a real person 2. ‘N’ is not first letter of last name. 3. Male ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/447 "2012-04-26T22:46:35Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ1: I am not Ned Flanders > IQ2: I am not Graham Nash (“Our House”) > Take a DQ for IQ3. Correct on Flanders and Nash. As for the sportscaster, it is Jim Nantz of CBS Sports. He covers the Masters golf tournament every year. DQ: Are you American? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/448 "2012-04-27T01:50:06Z")
IQ1: Did you dream last night that you were on a boat to heaven, and by some chance, you had brought your dice along? IQ2: Are you the character creation of a Nobel prize-winning author who drove ambulances in WWI? IQ3: Did you tell Mrs. Brown that she had a lovely daughter? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/449 "2012-04-27T13:37:11Z")
The lazy shaver was Richard Nixon. The famous ‘lazy shave’ occurred in his televised debated with John Kennedy when his bad five o’clock shadow made him look very bad compared to the much more telegenic JFK. DQ: Did you first appear in a television show or movie? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/450 "2012-04-27T17:48:28Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > DQ: Are you American? No > [@Spoons](#): > > IQ1: Did you dream last night that you were on a boat to heaven, and by some chance, you had brought your dice along? > > IQ2: Are you the character creation of a Nobel prize-winning author who drove ambulances in WWI? > > IQ3: Did you tell Mrs. Brown that she had a lovely daughter? IQ1: Not Nathan Detroit from _Guys and Dolls_ IQ2: DQ for you. The only Hemingway I’ve read is _The Old Man and the Sea_, which didn’t have any ‘N’ character that I can remember. IQ3: Not Peter Noon from Herman’s Hermits > [@Wargamer](#): > > DQ: Did you first appear in a television show or movie? Yes Summary: N 1. Not a real person 2. ‘N’ is not first letter of last name. 3. Male 4. Not American 5. First appeared in a television show or movie. Outstanding DQs : Enginerd - 1 Le Ministre - 2 Wargamer - 1 Elendil’s Heir - 3 Spoons - 1 ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/451 "2012-04-27T18:15:48Z")
DQ: Was the original work in which you were created written in English? IQ1: Did you once apparently hire a potted palm for counsel? IQ2: Were you noted for telling folks to say ‘No.’ IQ3: Did you really, really, REALLY come to hate rock and roll music? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/452 "2012-04-27T18:41:56Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > DQ: Was the original work in which you were created written in English? Yes > [@](#): > > IQ1: Did you once apparently hire a potted palm for counsel? > > IQ2: Were you noted for telling folks to say ‘No.’ > > IQ3: Did you really, really, REALLY come to hate rock and roll music? IQ2: Not Nancy Reagan. Take DQs for the other two. Summary: N 1. Not a real person 2. ‘N’ is not first letter of last name. 3. Male 4. Not American 5. First appeared in a television show or movie. 6. Original work in which I first appeared was in English. Outstanding DQs : Enginerd - 1 Le Ministre - 2 Wargamer - 2 Elendil’s Heir - 3 Spoons - 1 ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/453 "2012-04-27T19:23:09Z")
IQ1: Oliver North, who’s attorney once whined to the Congressional Committee investigating the Iran-Contra scandal that he was not a potted palm. IQ3: Manuel Noriega, who was famously induced to surrender himself out of the Vatican City (I think it was Vatican, maybe it was the Swiss) Embassy in Panama by having the US Army surround the place with giant speakers and blast heavy metal/rock at loud volumes. DQ: Did you first appear in a television show? DQ: Did you first appear in European media? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/454 "2012-04-27T19:54:55Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you the son of Achilles? > > IQ2: Are you a Gerenian charioteer? > > IQ3: Did your sons walk backwards with a blanket to cover your drunken nakedness? > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ3: Not Noah of the Bible. Take DQs for the other 2. Absolutely right about Noah. The son of Achilles is **Neoptolemus** - in the Illiad, he laments to Patroclus that he (Achilles) is unlikely to kiss his son again. The ‘Gerenian charioteer’, also from the Illiad, is **Nestor**. No one really knows what exactly ‘Gerenian’ is supposed to mean, but it is the epithet repeatedly applied to him. It could be derived from the Greek ‘Gere’, which means ‘old’ (Nestor is constantly referred to as an older man) but no one has conclusively proved it… At any rate… DQ1: Is the work in which you appear ‘live action’? (As opposed to cel animation, claymation, stop action, computer animation, etc…) DQ2: Did you first appear after the year 1990? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/455 "2012-04-27T22:05:52Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > DQ: Did you first appear in a television show? > DQ: Did you first appear in European media? No. Well, if I wanted to interpret the question hyper-literally, my first appearance was in a failed TV pilot. But to anyone other than a super-obsessed fan, my first appearance that most people are aware of was in a medium other than a television show. No. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > DQ1: Is the work in which you appear ‘live action’? (As opposed to cel animation, claymation, stop action, computer animation, etc…) > > DQ2: Did you first appear after the year 1990? Yes No Summary: N 1. Not a real person 2. ‘N’ is not first letter of last name. 3. Male 4. Not American 5. First appeared in a television show or movie. 6. Original work in which I first appeared was in English. 7. Did not first appear in a TV show (see caveat in post 455) 8. Did not first appear in European media 9. Appeared in live action work 10. First appeared before 1990. Outstanding DQs : Enginerd - 1 Elendil’s Heir - 3 Spoons - 1 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/456 "2012-04-28T03:59:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you a Southerner with a bad combover who was often discussed as a possible Presidential candidate in the Eighties? > In a _Doonesbury_ cartoon, did you insist your husband’s top aide do his best to get your husband a major award? > Did a recent proposal to honor you with commemorative license plates lead to controversy? Sam Nunn, Democrat of Georgia. Nancy Reagan, hectoring White House Chief of Staff Don Regan to get Ronnie a Nobel Peace Prize. Nathan Bedford Forrest, ace Confederate cavalryman but a founder of the KKK, who will probably not have commemorative plates in Mississippi after all. DQs: Did you first appear in a work of science fiction? British? First appeared after 1960? IQs: Were two famous actors nearby at the time of your death? Does your statue stand outside CIA HQ in Langley, Va.? Did JFK call to wish you happy birthday just days before he died? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/457 "2012-04-28T04:36:46Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > Did you first appear in a work of science fiction? > British? > First appeared after 1960? No Yes Yes > [@](#): > > IQs: > > Were two famous actors nearby at the time of your death? > Does your statue stand outside CIA HQ in Langley, Va.? > Did JFK call to wish you happy birthday just days before he died? IQ1: DQ for you IQ2: Not Nathan “regret I have but one life to give for my country” Hale IQ3: I know I’ve heard this story before and I remember this was an IQ to me about a year or so ago, although I can’t remember the initial in that game. I’m pretty sure I haven’t done ‘N’ before. And yet, I’ve forgotten the answer again. Take a DQ. Summary: N 1. Not a real person 2. ‘N’ is not first letter of last name. 3. Male 4. Not American 5. First appeared in a television show or movie. 6. Original work in which I first appeared was in English. 7. Did not first appear in a TV show (see caveat in post 455) 8. Did not first appear in European media 9. Appeared in live action work 10. First appeared before 1990. 11. Did not first appear in a work of science fiction. 12. British. 13. First appeared after 1960. Outstanding DQs : Enginerd - 1 Elendil’s Heir - 2 Spoons - 1 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/458 "2012-04-28T12:02:53Z")
IQ1: Are you the title character of a Bellini opera? IQ2: Are you the title character of a Verdi opera? IQ3: Are you the producer of “All in the Family” and its many spinoffs? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/459 "2012-04-28T14:20:39Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ1: Not Nathan Detroit from _Guys and Dolls_ > IQ2: DQ for you. The only Hemingway I’ve read is _The Old Man and the Sea_, which didn’t have any ‘N’ character that I can remember. > IQ3: Not Peter Noon from Herman’s Hermits Correct on Peter Noone, but incorrect on Nathan Detroit. The show was indeed _Guys and Dolls_, but the character I was looking for was Nicely-Nicely Johnson, who sings “Sit Down, You’re Rocking the Boat” at Nathan’s urging. The Hemingway character is Nick Adams, who featured in a number of Hemingway stories. I’ll take one DQ now, and wait for your go-ahead on the Nicely-Nicely Johnson question. DQ: First appeared before 1975? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/460 "2012-04-28T14:47:31Z")
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