# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q

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**Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/61 "2012-04-03T17:31:31Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the title character of a Verdi opera?
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> IQ2: Do people sing your name in ‘Blazing Saddles’?
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> IQ3: Are you a saxophone colossus who is still playing at the age of 80-something?

IQ1: I’m not Rigoletto.

I should remember Blazing Saddles better, but it’s been too long … .

And as for the last one, I’m stumped. Please take two DQs.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/62 "2012-04-03T17:37:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did the ship on which your bride sailed to meet you later end up as a Hawaiian cruise liner?  
> Did your arm stink after a battle wound didn’t quite heal?  
> Were you the first Attorney General of the United States?

I’m baffled by all of these. Take three DQs.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/63 "2012-04-03T18:10:31Z")

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IQ1: Are you a singing brakeman?

IQ2: Were “your” royal children actually fathered by your wife’s brother?

IQ3: Did you learn the hard way to say “yes” when someone asks if you’re a god?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/64 "2012-04-03T18:12:39Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the title character of a Verdi opera?
> 
> IQ2: Do people sing your name in ‘Blazing Saddles’?
> 
> IQ3: Are you a saxophone colossus who is still playing at the age of 80-something?

> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> IQ1: I’m not Rigoletto.
> 
> I should remember Blazing Saddles better, but it’s been too long … .
> 
> And as for the last one, I’m stumped. Please take two DQs.

Absolutely right on Rigoletto.

Cleavon Little as the sheriff says “You’d do it for **Randolph Scott**.” The townspeople take off their hats and say ‘Randolph Scott’ in an awed whisper, then they all stand and sing ‘Ran-do-olph Sco-o-o-tt’ like the ‘amen’ at the end of a hymn. Surely it must be on YouTube somewhere…

Ah, and **Sonny Rollins** - one of his early 1950s albums as bandleader was titled ‘Saxophone Colossus’; the name has stuck, with good reason. He is still playing, and will turn 82 this September.

So, then -

DQ1: Were you born after 1900?

DQ2: Is ‘B’ the initial of your last name?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/65 "2012-04-03T18:23:19Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a singing brakeman?
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> IQ2: Were “your” royal children actually fathered by your wife’s brother?
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> IQ3: Did you learn the hard way to say “yes” when someone asks if you’re a god?

No idea on the first two.

IQ3: I’m not Ray (can’t remember his last name) from _Ghostbusters_.

Take two DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/66 "2012-04-03T18:23:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did the ship on which your bride sailed to meet you later end up as a Hawaiian cruise liner?  
> Did your arm stink after a battle wound didn’t quite heal?  
> Were you the first Attorney General of the United States?

Prince Rainier’s soon-to-be-wife Grace Kelly came to Monaco in 1956 aboard the SS _Constitution_, which many years later I sailed on during a Hawaii cruise.

Roderick, Lord Blaine, was injured in the Niven and Pournelle sf novel _The Mote in God’s Eye._

Edmund Randolph was the first AG, and also the second SecState.

R.

1. real
2. male

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/67 "2012-04-03T18:25:09Z")

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IQ: Did you used to run guns to the Rebels?

IQ: Did you used to run guns to the rebels?

IQ: Even though you should have been charged with Larceny from Kevin Costner, did you escape getting charged with scene stealing back in the 90s?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/68 "2012-04-03T18:25:15Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> DQ1: Were you born after 1900?
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> DQ2: Is ‘B’ the initial of your last name?

Yes, I was born after 1900, and no, my last name does not start with B.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Born after 1900
4. Last name does not start with B

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/69 "2012-04-03T18:29:21Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ: Were you recently fired by a Big 10 basketball program?
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> IQ: Did you chide Albert for trying to put limits on the Divine?
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> IQ: Did you promise to see that japanese would be only spoken in the Afterlife?

Good Lord. I don’t know any of these.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/70 "2012-04-03T18:32:11Z")

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**Le Ministre** and Elendil’s **Heir** , thanks for clearing up those “B” leftovers. I had to :smack: on a couple of them; if I had only taken more time to think, I might have had a couple. Oh well.

Some IQs for the R game:

IQ1: Are you a movie critic who once took a turn in a film about a transsexual?

IQ2: Were you a bigwig in sports programming at ABC?

IQ3: Did you play a parimutuel teller in a 1989 film about a guy who couldn’t lose at the horse races?

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/71 "2012-04-03T18:34:51Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> Good Lord. I don’t know any of these.

Umm, that’s because I’m an idiot and was still thinking it was “B” instead of “R”.

:smack:

BTW, the B answers were Bruce Weber - recently fired from U. of Illinois, Neils Bohr - who told Albert Einstein to not tell God that he couldn’t play dice with the Universe, , and Bill Halsey, US vice admiral who said on December 8, 1941 that once he got through, Japanese would only be spoken in Hell.)

“R” IQs:

IQ: Did you used to run guns to the Rebels?

IQ: Did you used to run guns to the rebels?

IQ: Even though you should have been charged with Larceny from Kevin Costner, did you escape getting charged with scene stealing back in the 90s?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/72 "2012-04-03T18:35:18Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a movie critic who once took a turn in a film about a transsexual?
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> IQ2: Were you a bigwig in sports programming at ABC?
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> IQ3: Did you play a parimutuel teller in a 1989 film about a guy who couldn’t lose at the horse races?

I’m guessing that #1 is Roger Ebert, who I am not.

The other two – take two DQs.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/73 "2012-04-03T18:42:11Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a singing brakeman?
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> IQ2: Were “your” royal children actually fathered by your wife’s brother?
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> IQ3: Did you learn the hard way to say “yes” when someone asks if you’re a god?

Right on Ghostbuster Ray Stantz. The other two were Jimmie Rodgers and Robert Baratheon (from Game of Thrones).

DQs:  
5. Are you alive?  
6. Are you American?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/74 "2012-04-03T18:50:36Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> 1. Are you alive?
> 2. Are you American?

1. Real
2. Male
3. Born after 1900
4. Last name does not start with B
5. Alive
6. Not American

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/75 "2012-04-03T19:33:10Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> I’m guessing that #1 is Roger Ebert, who I am not.

Actually, no; and to the best of my knowledge, while Ebert did appear in a few films, none dealt with transsexuality. The person I was looking for was movie critic Rex Reed, who had a role in _Myra Breckinridge_.

The bigwig in sports programming at ABC was Roone Arledge.

The parimutuel teller was played by Robbie Coltrane, and the film was _Let it Ride_. Coltrane may be better known nowadays as Rubeus Hagrid, in the Harry Potter films.

> [@](#):
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> The other two – take two DQs.

I’ll take two for now, and wait for your go-ahead on the one involving Rex Reed:

1. Does your last name start with R?

2. Are you from an English-speaking country?

Some more IQs:

1. Do you not smoke it no more because you’re tired of waking up on the floor?

2. Did you play a character who only watches radar while drinking coffee?

3. Are you said to have a thousand voices in your repertoire?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/76 "2012-04-03T19:51:20Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Actually, no; and to the best of my knowledge, while Ebert did appear in a few films, none dealt with transsexuality. The person I was looking for was movie critic Rex Reed, who had a role in _Myra Breckinridge_.

Ha … I confused _Myra Breckinridge_ with _Beyond the Valley of the Dolls_.

> [@](#):
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> 1. Does your last name start with R?
> 
> 2. Are you from an English-speaking country?

1. Real
2. Male
3. Born after 1900
4. Last name does not start with B
5. Alive
6. Not American
7. Last name does not start with R
8. From an English-speaking country

> [@](#):
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> 1. Do you not smoke it no more because you’re tired of waking up on the floor?
> 
> 2. Did you play a character who only watches radar while drinking coffee?
> 
> 3. Are you said to have a thousand voices in your repertoire?

But all this is moot because I am indeed **Ringo Starr!**

Well done!

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/77 "2012-04-03T20:01:34Z")

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Nice job **Spoons**!

(my three IQs, by the way, in case anyone was wondering:

IQ: Did you used to run guns to the Rebels? A: Rhett Butler

IQ: Did you used to run guns to the rebels? A: Rick Blaine (_Casablanca_)

IQ: Even though you should have been charged with Larceny from Kevin Costner, did you escape getting charged with scene stealing back in the 90s? A: Alan Rickman

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/78 "2012-04-03T20:10:03Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> Nice job **Spoons**!
> 
> (my three IQs, by the way, in case anyone was wondering:

Sorry about skipping yours … I was posting in a chain and didn’t notice that your guesses had slipped in.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/79 "2012-04-03T20:10:05Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> But all this is moot because I am indeed **Ringo Starr!**
> 
> Well done!

Woo-hoo! I’ll be back in a bit with another letter–I do have to get some work done today.

As for my other IQs:

The character who drinks coffee while watching radar is Darth Helmet, played by Rick Moranis in _Spaceballs_.

The man of a thousand voices is impressionist Rich Little.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/80 "2012-04-03T20:23:54Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> DQ2: Is ‘B’ the initial of your last name?

Shit, piss and industrial waste, what a fwcking time to make a typo like that!!! AAAUGH!!!  
:smack:  
:smack:  
:smack:

R, **Le Fou de l’au-delà** , R.

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