# Botticelli, April 2012 - Le Ministre de l'au-delà, chooser; initial Q

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**Created:** [March 30, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325 "2012-03-30T21:21:50Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/121 "2012-04-06T16:25:28Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> DQ: Are you European?  
> DQ2: Are you famous as a politician or statesman?

I am European.  
I am not famous as a politician or statesman.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> DQ: Were you born after 1900?

No, I was not born after 1900.

Summary:

1. M is the first letter of my last name.
2. I am real, not fictional.
3. I am male.
4. I am not alive.
5. My field is not related to the arts.
6. I am not North American.
7. I am European.
8. I am not famous as a politician or statesman.
9. I was not born after 1900.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/122 "2012-04-06T16:51:38Z")

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IQ1: Did a popular 1960s rumor have you on the receiving end of a Mars candy bar?  
IQ2: Did the same rumor have you on the giving end of same Mars bar?  
IQ3: Were you credited with making the trains run on time?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/123 "2012-04-06T17:12:42Z")

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**ChockFull** , your first two questions were already addressed in this round.

> [@Spoons](#):
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> …
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> Summary:
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> 1. M is the first letter of my last name.
> 2. I am real, not fictional.
> 3. I am male.
> 4. I am not alive.
> 5. My field is not related to the arts.
> 6. I am not North American.
> 7. I am European.
> 8. I am not famous as a politician or statesman.
> 9. I was not born after 1900.

OK, my three DQs, then:

British?  
Born after 1700?  
Explorer or scientist?

And three new IQs:

Were you inspired by the thief of a notable artwork?  
Were you Hercules’s sweetheart in a movie?  
Are you typically shown with a pricetag in your headgear?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/124 "2012-04-06T17:35:49Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Did a popular 1960s rumor have you on the receiving end of a Mars candy bar?  
> IQ2: Did the same rumor have you on the giving end of same Mars bar?  
> IQ3: Were you credited with making the trains run on time?

Yes, as I recall, the first two of these appeared earlier. So I’ll continue with your IQ3:

No, I am not Benito Mussolini.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/125 "2012-04-06T17:46:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> OK, my three DQs, then:
> 
> British?  
> Born after 1700?  
> Explorer or scientist?

I am not British.  
I was born after 1700.  
Given a choice between explorer and scientist, I’d have to say scientist.

Summary:

1. M is the first letter of my last name.
2. I am real, not fictional.
3. I am male.
4. I am not alive.
5. My field is not related to the arts.
6. I am not North American.
7. I am European.
8. I am not famous as a politician or statesman.
9. I was not born after 1900.
10. I am not British.
11. I was born after 1700.
12. Given a choice between explorer and scientist, I’d have to say scientist.

> [@](#):
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> And three new IQs:
> 
> Were you inspired by the thief of a notable artwork?  
> Were you Hercules’s sweetheart in a movie?  
> Are you typically shown with a pricetag in your headgear?

No ideas on the first two. Take two DQs.

On the third; no, I am not Minnie Pearl.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/126 "2012-04-06T18:36:50Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …And three new IQs:
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> Were you inspired by the thief of a notable artwork?  
> Were you Hercules’s sweetheart in a movie?  
> Are you typically shown with a pricetag in your headgear?

Sherlock Holmes’s nemesis Prof. James Moriarty was inspired by Adam Worth, thief of the famous Gainsborough portrait of the Duchess of Devonshire.  
Megara was the strongman’s true love in the Disney movie _Hercules_.

DQs:

French?  
Born after 1800?

IQs:

Did you first build the cars that now have a distinctive three-armed logo?  
An Italian, did you build the high-performance sports cars that are now among the most costly in the world?  
You’re right about Minnie Pearl, so I’ll revise my question: Are you, a dude, typically shown with a pricetag in your headgear?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/127 "2012-04-06T21:04:42Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Megara was the strongman’s true love in the Disney movie _Hercules_.

:smack: And here I was trying to recall all those old sword-and-sandal movies with Steve Reeves! :smack:

> [@](#):
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> DQs:
> 
> French?  
> Born after 1800?

I am not French.  
I was born after 1800.

Summary:

1. M is the first letter of my last name.
2. I am real, not fictional.
3. I am male.
4. I am not alive.
5. My field is not related to the arts.
6. I am not North American.
7. I am European.
8. I am not famous as a politician or statesman.
9. I was not born after 1900.
10. I am not British.
11. I was born after 1700.
12. Given a choice between explorer and scientist, I’d have to say scientist.
13. I am not French.
14. I was born after 1800.

> [@](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you first build the cars that now have a distinctive three-armed logo?  
> An Italian, did you build the high-performance sports cars that are now among the most costly in the world?  
> You’re right about Minnie Pearl, so I’ll revise my question: Are you, a dude, typically shown with a pricetag in your headgear?

IQ1: All I can think of are Mercedes-Benz cars, but that was Karl Benz. From what I understand, the “Mercedes” part was the name of his daughter. If I’m wrong, which is likely, take a DQ.

IQ2: No, I am not Maserati.

IQ3: No, I am not the Mad Hatter, from the Alice in Wonderland stories.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/128 "2012-04-06T21:31:17Z")

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IQ1: Did you write a series of hard-boiled crime novels?

IQ2: Were you prosecuted for war crimes in the early 21st century?

IQ3: Were you a Phrygian ruler associated with legendary wealth?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/129 "2012-04-06T22:15:10Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write a series of hard-boiled crime novels?
> 
> IQ2: Were you prosecuted for war crimes in the early 21st century?
> 
> IQ3: Were you a Phrygian ruler associated with legendary wealth?

IQ1: No, I am not Mickey Spillane. (Pretty sure that you’re looking for Spillane–if I’m wrong, take a DQ.)

IQ2: No, I am not Slobodan Milosovic.

IQ3: No, I am not King Midas.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/130 "2012-04-07T00:20:25Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> …IQ1: All I can think of are Mercedes-Benz cars, but that was Karl Benz. From what I understand, the “Mercedes” part was the name of his daughter. If I’m wrong, which is likely, take a DQ.
> 
> IQ2: No, I am not Maserati.
> 
> IQ3: No, I am not the Mad Hatter, from the Alice in Wonderland stories.

Oll Korrect.

IQs:

Were you half of a famous legal directory pair?  
Did perhaps your best-known movie character have an eye problem?  
Were you the Swiss-born governor of a New England state?

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/131 "2012-04-07T02:35:35Z")

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IQ1: Did you pioneer the study of genetics with experiments on pea plants?  
IQ2: On the TV show _Home Improvement_, did Tim Taylor end up with your steering wheel?  
IQ3: Are you a famous sunglass-wearing comedian with an unusual delivery whose content contained a lot of one-liners, non sequiturs, and drug references?

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/132 "2012-04-07T02:49:03Z")

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For my DQ:

Was your field of study biology?

IQ: Could you be nicknamed ‘Sweet Pea’ because of your studies?

EDIT: Gah, beaten to the punch by\*\* Baffle\*\*.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/133 "2012-04-07T13:12:09Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a jazz guitarist from Missouri?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> No idea; take a DQ.

**Pat Metheny** is from Lee’s Summit, a suburb of Kansas City, Missouri.

DQ: Are you German?

IQ: Did you develop the table of the elements?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/134 "2012-04-07T19:39:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you half of a famous legal directory pair?  
> Did perhaps your best-known movie character have an eye problem?  
> Were you the Swiss-born governor of a New England state?

IQ1: No idea; take a DQ. (To save a little face, I _do_ use Black’s and Barron’s, but admit to unfamiliarity with others.)

IQ2: All that comes to mind are Snake Plissken and Mad-Eye Moody, neither of whom were played by “M” actors. Take a DQ.

IQ3: No idea; take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/135 "2012-04-07T19:42:34Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> IQ1: Did you pioneer the study of genetics with experiments on pea plants?  
> IQ2: On the TV show _Home Improvement_, did Tim Taylor end up with your steering wheel?  
> IQ3: Are you a famous sunglass-wearing comedian with an unusual delivery whose content contained a lot of one-liners, non sequiturs, and drug references?

IQ1: No, I am not Gregor Mendel.

IQ2: Not sure, but I think I recall that wheel as belonging to Mario Andretti. If I’m wrong, take a DQ.

IQ3: No idea; take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/136 "2012-04-07T19:45:51Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> DQ: Are you German?

No, I am not German.

Summary:

1. M is the first letter of my last name.
2. I am real, not fictional.
3. I am male.
4. I am not alive.
5. My field is not related to the arts.
6. I am not North American.
7. I am European.
8. I am not famous as a politician or statesman.
9. I was not born after 1900.
10. I am not British.
11. I was born after 1700.
12. Given a choice between explorer and scientist, I’d have to say scientist.
13. I am not French.
14. I was born after 1800.
15. I am not German.

> [@](#):
>
> IQ: Did you develop the table of the elements?

No, I am not Dmitri Mendeleev.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/137 "2012-04-07T20:03:40Z")

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IQ1: Are you a Russian mathematician who worked on random processes?

IQ2: Were you Snoopy’s nemesis when he was perched on top of his doghouse?

IQ3: Are you a Nobel Prize winning, Colombian novelist?

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/138 "2012-04-07T20:28:20Z")

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IQ: Did you pioneer work on the wireless?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/139 "2012-04-07T20:36:38Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a Russian mathematician who worked on random processes?
> 
> IQ2: Were you Snoopy’s nemesis when he was perched on top of his doghouse?
> 
> IQ3: Are you a Nobel Prize winning, Colombian novelist?

IQ1: No idea; take a DQ.

IQ2: No, I am not Manfred von Richtofen, otherwise known as the Red Baron.

IQ3: No, I am not Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2012-le-ministre-de-lau-dela-chooser-initial-q/617325/140 "2012-04-07T20:39:06Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ: Did you pioneer work on the wireless?

I did indeed, because I am…

Guglielmo Marconi!

Well done, **Wargamer** , and congratulations! Take us into another round.

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