# Botticelli - April, 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 4, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789 "2013-04-04T01:10:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/101 "2013-04-16T21:32:41Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the first person to call himself an anarchist?
> 2. Were you a French romantic painter of the 19th Century known for your allegorical paintings and pretentious spelling?
> 3. Were you the father of the love interest in a Neil Gaiman novel?

Not Portal. DQs for the anarchist and the painter…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/102 "2013-04-16T21:52:16Z")

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What the hell:

IQ:

Are you commonly known today as El Greco?

And just thinking out loud - how about this for a 20th DQ:

Are you still known today primarily by your name beginning with P?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/103 "2013-04-16T22:57:21Z")

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Portico, not Portal, but close enough.  
Pierre Julian Prudhon has been called the first anarchist; Pierre-Paul Prud’hon was the artist.

I’m gonna have to think about my DQs a bit.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/104 "2013-04-16T23:00:31Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> What the hell:
> 
> IQ:
> 
> Are you commonly known today as El Greco?
> 
> And just thinking out loud - how about this for a 20th DQ:
> 
> Are you still known today primarily by your name beginning with P?

Not El Greco (whatever his real name was - something Greek, 15 letters or so, and probably ending in _-poulos_).  
**P**

1. Male
2. Real
3. First name starts with P
4. Dead
5. English was not my first language
6. Associated with the arts
7. European
8. Not a writer
9. Not an actor
10. Died before 1900
11. Not associated with classical music
12. Died before 1700
13. Visual artist
14. Not Italian
15. Did not die before 1500
16. Painter
17. Not from what is now Holland
18. Not French
19. Did not die before 1600

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/105 "2013-04-17T03:58:21Z")

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Hmm. Still coming up blank.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/106 "2013-04-17T11:53:21Z")

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Okay, with a little help from my friends:

DQ:

1. Are you still known today primarily by your name beginning with P?
2. Were you Spanish?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/107 "2013-04-17T13:25:33Z")

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P

1. Male
2. Real
3. First name starts with P
4. Dead
5. English was not my first language
6. Associated with the arts
7. European
8. Not a writer
9. Not an actor
10. Died before 1900
11. Not associated with classical music
12. Died before 1700
13. Visual artist
14. Not Italian
15. Did not die before 1500
16. Painter
17. Not from what is now Holland
18. Not French
19. Did not die before 1600
20. Not still known primarily by my first name
21. Not Spanish

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/108 "2013-04-17T13:37:06Z")

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Once more into the breach, dear friends!

IQs

1. Were you the voice of Boris Badenov?
2. Were you a Russian monarch who liked to knock the hats off his advisors?
3. Were you a fictional TV count who may have partly inspired Dungeons & Dragon’s Vecna?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/109 "2013-04-17T13:40:19Z")

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Well, I’m stumped.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/110 "2013-04-17T13:43:58Z")

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Thinking out loud: Despair not, there’s all of Eastern Europe, Greece and Scandinavia. We know he was a real a 17th Century painter. It’s just a question of whether he’s a Macedonian genre painter, a Hungarian portraitist or a Swedish muralist (etc., etc.)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/111 "2013-04-17T14:01:06Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs
> 
> 1. Were you the voice of Boris Badenov?
> 2. Were you a Russian monarch who liked to knock the hats off his advisors?
> 3. Were you a fictional TV count who may have partly inspired Dungeons & Dragon’s Vecna?

Not Peter the Great. DQs for the voice and the count.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/112 "2013-04-17T15:36:55Z")

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That would be the versatile Paul Frees and Dark Shadows’ Count Petofi (who searched for his hand, now separated from his body, that he’d infused with most of his magical powers).

DQs:

1. Were you Scandinavian (Danish, Swedish, Norse, Finnish)?
2. Were you best known for your portraits?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/113 "2013-04-17T16:03:59Z")

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**P**

1. Male
2. Real
3. First name starts with P
4. Dead
5. English was not my first language
6. Associated with the arts
7. European
8. Not a writer
9. Not an actor
10. Died before 1900
11. Not associated with classical music
12. Died before 1700
13. Visual artist
14. Not Italian
15. Did not die before 1500
16. Painter
17. Not from what is now Holland
18. Not French
19. Did not die before 1600
20. Not still known primarily by my first name
21. Not Spanish
22. Not Scandinavian
23. I’ll say best known for portraits, though I did a lot of other works as well

As I recall, somebody told me these games traditionally go to 20 DQs - we’re up to 23 now. How much longer do we want to drag this out?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/114 "2013-04-17T16:08:23Z")

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Okay, as far as I’m concerned, you win! Well played. Who the HELL is this guy?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/115 "2013-04-17T18:25:20Z")

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Seconded. 20 answered DQs is the rule. Go ahead and tell us.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/116 "2013-04-17T21:33:27Z")

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Let’s wait until tomorrow morning (EST), to see if the last few DQs will be useful for etv78…

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/117 "2013-04-18T03:54:52Z")

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DQ1: German or Prussian?

DQ2: Portuguese?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/118 "2013-04-18T04:16:30Z")

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DQs??

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/119 "2013-04-18T04:18:04Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> DQs??

Your post above implied that you were throwing it out there for people to fire DQs. 😕

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/120 "2013-04-18T11:03:15Z")

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Which post implied that? 😕

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