# Botticelli - April, 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [April 4, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789 "2013-04-04T01:10:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/161 "2013-04-23T22:00:41Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > DQ: > > 1. Were you in the movies? > > I’ll save the other two until I think of better questions. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > Best known for creative arts? (usual definition) > Died since 1950? > > Two DQs reserved. J 1. Female 2. Dead 3. Not American 4. Real 5. European 6. Not a military figure 7. Did not die before 1900 8. Not royalty 9. First name starts with J 10. Not British 11. Not in the movies 12. Best known for creative arts 13. Died since 1950 ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/162 "2013-04-23T22:10:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Ser Jaime Lannister, in _Game of Thrones_. > The odious King Joffrey. > Jackie Joyner-Kersee. It occurred to me this morning that this might be a _GoT_ reference, but I’ve never watched the show, and while my sister-in-law gave me the first two books for Xmas, I haven’t read them yet. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you command the British fleet at the Battle of Jutland? > Did you negotiate a controversial early American treaty? > Did you briefly assume command in Capt. Picard’s absence? Not Admiral Jellicoe or Thomas Jefferson. DQ for Star Trek. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/163 "2013-04-24T00:12:21Z")
I think the treaty refers to John Jay. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/164 "2013-04-24T04:41:56Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you command the British fleet at the Battle of Jutland? > Did you negotiate a controversial early American treaty? > Did you briefly assume command in Capt. Picard’s absence? > [@SCAdian](#): > > Not Admiral Jellicoe or Thomas Jefferson. > DQ for Star Trek. Correct as to Adm. Jellicoe. The ST question is Capt. Jellico (slightly different spelling - I always wondered if he was a descendent of the British officer). > [@etv78](#): > > I think the treaty refers to John Jay. Yes, but it’s customary to allow the person who posed the IQ to provide the answer. DQs: Actress? French? Two DQs still reserved. IQs: Were you Benedict Arnold’s handler? Was this his _nom de guerre_? Did your campaign insist, on a button, that a vote for you was a vote for _you?_ ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/165 "2013-04-24T12:06:43Z")
DQ 1. Singer? (Still saving one DQ) IQs: 1. Were you the wife of famous fictional transcontinental royalty? 2. Are you the protagonist of Currer Bell’s novel? 3. Are you the best known female detective in mystery literature? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/166 "2013-04-24T21:21:53Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you Benedict Arnold’s handler? > Was this his _nom de guerre_? > Did your campaign insist, on a button, that a vote for you was a vote for _you?_ Not Major Andre. DQs for the other two. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you the wife of famous fictional transcontinental royalty? > 2. Are you the protagonist of Currer Bell’s novel? > 3. Are you the best known female detective in mystery literature? Not Jane Marple. DQs for the other two. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > Actress? > French? > > Two DQs still reserved. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > DQ > > 1. Singer? > > (Still saving one DQ) **J** 1. Female 2. Dead 3. Not American 4. Real 5. European 6. Not a military figure 7. Did not die before 1900 8. Not royalty 9. First name starts with J 10. Not British 11. Not in the movies 12. Best known for creative arts 13. Died since 1950 14. Not an actress 15. Not French 16. Not a singer ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/167 "2013-04-24T23:54:08Z")
Let me see, Elendil’s Heir has 2 DQs left, I’ve got 3 DQ’s and we are at 16 questions. Hmmm… Oh, by the way, Jane Porter Greystoke (wife of Tarzan) and Jane Eyre (Currer Bell’s a pseudonym). think think think think think ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/168 "2013-04-25T00:37:41Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > 1. Were you the wife of famous fictional transcontinental royalty? > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Jane Porter Greystoke (wife of Tarzan) “Royalty”? He’s a mere viscount… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/169 "2013-04-25T00:44:48Z")
King of the Apes! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/170 "2013-04-25T00:52:43Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you Benedict Arnold’s handler? > Was this his _nom de guerre_? > Did your campaign insist, on a button, that a vote for you was a vote for _you?_ > [@SCAdian](#): > > Not Major Andre. > DQs for the other two… Major Andre, yes, but what was the “J” in his name? Holding back the other two DQ answers because they might give it away. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/171 "2013-04-25T04:48:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Major Andre, yes, but what was the “J” in his name? > Holding back the other two DQ answers because they might give it away. John, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/172 "2013-04-25T12:08:33Z")
DQ: Painter? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/173 "2013-04-25T13:00:16Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > John, I believe. Right you are. The other two answers are John Anderson and… John Anderson (the 1980 independent candidate; his campaign was reacting to the perception that a vote for Anderson would actually be a vote for Ronald Reagan, hurting the incumbent, Jimmy Carter). DQs: Best known for the visual arts (painting, sketching, photography, sculpture, etc.)? Born west of the Rhine River? Two DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/174 "2013-04-25T13:05:34Z")
Well, if Elendil’s heir is asking “best known for the visual arts”, I’ll retract my DQ to avoid duplication. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/175 "2013-04-25T14:11:01Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > DQ: Painter? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > Best known for the visual arts (painting, sketching, photography, sculpture, etc.)? > Born west of the Rhine River? > > Two DQs reserved. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Well, if Elendil’s heir is asking “best known for the visual arts”, I’ll retract my DQ to avoid duplication. That’s okay - normally I answer the questions in the order they’re asked, but since I received both your questions at the same time and the answer to his is “No,” I was just going to ignore yours anyway. 🙂 **J** 1. Female 2. Dead 3. Not American 4. Real 5. European 6. Not a military figure 7. Did not die before 1900 8. Not royalty 9. First name starts with J 10. Not British 11. Not in the movies 12. Best known for creative arts 13. Died since 1950 14. Not an actress 15. Not French 16. Not a singer 17. Not best known for the visual arts 18. Not born west of the Rhine River Only two DQs left, so to save a little effort I think I’ll just mumble something about Austria under my breath… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/176 "2013-04-25T14:34:36Z")
…you know, I thought I’d be good at this… ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/177 "2013-04-25T14:36:16Z")
Think how I feel when they start talking about models and sports stars and post-1960s television… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/178 "2013-04-25T14:54:12Z")
Thanks for the hint. OK, so we have an Austrian-born woman, first name starts with J, died since 1950, involved in the creative arts but neither an actress, singer, visual artist or involved in the movies. Hmmm. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/179 "2013-04-25T15:03:45Z")
Yeah, I know. I’ve googled writers, dancers, choreographers, ballerinas, directors, theater critics, and all I’ve got is Jane Doe! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789/180 "2013-04-25T20:00:39Z")
…and the real bugger is, I know I’m overthinking this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2013/654789.md?page=10)