# Botticelli, April 2014

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513
**Category:** Thread Games
**Created:** [April 6, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513 "2014-04-06T23:17:14Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/181 "2014-04-21T18:22:12Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> One DQ reserved.

I’ll bring this one forward now.

DQ: From a work of horror?

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### Author: ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/182 "2014-04-21T18:47:12Z")

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The man who treasured the red stapler, and a reminder that comedy’s a possibility for the genre, is Milton Waddams

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2014, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/183 "2014-04-21T22:02:31Z")

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M.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with M
4. from a work of literature
5. alive as of the end of his canon
6. could conceivably (and easily) have existed in the real world
7. from a work of American origin
8. created after 1900
9. literary work in which he appeared has been adapted for the screen, either television or cinema
10. protagonist (but not the only one)
11. created after 1960
12. from a genre, rather than from general fiction
13. not from a series of books
14. story set in the 20th century
15. not from science fiction
16. not from a mystery/detective/spy story
17. literary work was a novel
18. not a work of fantasy
19. not from a work of horror

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/184 "2014-04-22T22:26:17Z")

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…I’m just not coming up with anyone in particular. I know there have to be lots of characters named Michael or Mark or Mel, etc., but the old brain’s not clicking on it.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/185 "2014-04-23T03:30:25Z")

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A small hint: It is none of those three names.

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/186 "2014-04-23T23:59:19Z")

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I’m still blank. Where’d everybody go?

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/187 "2014-04-24T01:06:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I’m still blank. Where’d everybody go?

Still here, just as blank as you are.

Matthew? Mitch? Morris? Manny?

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2014, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/188 "2014-04-24T01:25:22Z")

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All right, last hint: none of those four, either.

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/189 "2014-04-24T21:30:33Z")

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Still blank. One last DQ to close this out:

DQ: Did the book make the top 20 in the New York Times bestseller list for fiction?

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/190 "2014-04-25T04:00:18Z")

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M.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with M
4. from a work of literature
5. alive as of the end of his canon
6. could conceivably (and easily) have existed in the real world
7. from a work of American origin
8. created after 1900
9. literary work in which he appeared has been adapted for the screen, either television or cinema
10. protagonist (but not the only one)
11. created after 1960
12. from a genre, rather than from general fiction
13. not from a series of books
14. story set in the 20th century
15. not from science fiction
16. not from a mystery/detective/spy story
17. literary work was a novel
18. not a work of fantasy
19. not from a work of horror
20. did not make the top 20 in the _New York Times_ bestseller list for fiction

Not on any lists for that year that I can see. If there’s an authoritative list of those, by year, please send me a link.

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/191 "2014-04-25T13:10:08Z")

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I don’t know of such a link, myself. My final guess (and I know it’s a throwaway):

DQ: Are you Marty McFly?

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/192 "2014-04-26T00:08:26Z")

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Pass.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2014, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/193 "2014-04-26T04:32:07Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I don’t know of such a link, myself. My final guess (and I know it’s a throwaway):
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> DQ: Are you Marty McFly?

Thanks, but no, I’m not.

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2014, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/194 "2014-04-26T06:31:55Z")

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Pass also. I have no idea.

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### Author: ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/195 "2014-04-26T16:08:12Z")

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I pass too.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/196 "2014-04-27T02:36:05Z")

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I’ll wait until noon EST Mon. for anyone to ask any final earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions, and then I’ll reveal the answer.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2014, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/197 "2014-04-29T03:40:07Z")

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OK, then. I am

Moses “Mose” Pray

from the very good 1971 Joe David Brown novel _Addie Pray_, and the different but equally good 1973 movie based on it, _Paper Moon_ (as played by Ryan O’Neal).

> **[Addie Pray](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addie_Pray)**
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> Addie Pray is a 1971 novel by Joe David Brown. It was adapted for the 1973 film Paper Moon, directed by Peter Bogdanovich. After the film's release, the novel was retitled Paper Moon. 
> The 1974 ABC situation comedy Paper Moon, which aired from September 1974 to January 1975, was based on the 1973 movie and the characters created for Addie Pray.
> The novel is narrated by Addie, an orphaned girl, who travels with confidence man Moses "Long Boy" Pray in the early 1930s, during the Great Depression...

> **[Paper Moon (1973) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070510/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)**
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> Paper Moon: Directed by Peter Bogdanovich. With Ryan O'Neal, Tatum O'Neal, Madeline Kahn, John Hillerman. During the Great Depression, a con man finds himself saddled with a young girl who may or may not be his daughter, and the two forge an unlikely...

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ORTv3jORX-I/hqdefault.jpg "Paper Moon - Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORTv3jORX-I)

Next round to start tomorrow.

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2014, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/198 "2014-04-29T11:02:30Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> OK, then. I am
> 
> Moses “Mose” Pray
> 
> from the very good 1971 Joe David Brown novel _Addie Pray_, and the different but equally good 1973 movie based on it, _Paper Moon_ (as played by Ryan O’Neal).

I vaguely recall hearing about the movie when it came out, but I couldn’t tell you anything about it - not even the actors’ names, let alone the characters’…

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2014, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/199 "2014-04-29T11:59:30Z")

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I remember _Paper Moon_ with Ryan and Tatum. I enjoyed it at the theater, but haven’t seen it since. I wouldn’t have come up with the names of the characters, but it NOW occurs to me that we only narrowed it down the the 20th Century, and that MAYBE narrowing it down to the Depression Era might have helped. Good one, EH.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2014, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/200 "2014-04-29T13:20:38Z")

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Thanks, **Prof**.

**SCAdian** , the book is very good and the movie is a classic. Check it out - you won’t regret it.

Hmm. Maybe I’ll just wait until Thurs. to start the May round?

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