# Botticelli, April 2014

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513
**Category:** Thread Games
**Created:** [April 6, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513 "2014-04-06T23:17:14Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/141 "2014-04-17T19:45:54Z")

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IQ1: Have you portrayed a Knight of the Round Table, a Roman prefect, and a passenger aboard the Titanic?  
IQ2: Are you a fictional character who was named “Mortimer” until your creator’s wife convinced you to change the name?  
IQ3: Are you a musician whose mother invented a type of correction fluid?

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/142 "2014-04-17T20:48:24Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you play Rollin Hand on _Mission: Impossible_?
> 2. Did you play Peter Pan opposite Cyril Ritchard?
> 3. Did you regularly bombard Capt. Kangaroo with ping-pong balls?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno the first, but no, I’m not Mary Martin or Mister Greenjeans.

#1 was Martin Landau. Correct on #2. #3 was Mr. Moose, not Mr. Greenjeans.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/143 "2014-04-17T21:50:23Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you observe that “they also serve who only stand and wait”?
2. Did you compose _Night on Bald Mountain_?
3. Were you a 12th Century Sephardic philosopher?

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/144 "2014-04-18T03:42:43Z")

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IQ1: Did you change your name because your guru said you’d do better if it started with an ‘R’?  
IQ2: Were you and #1 just a-catchin’ fire?  
IQ3: Did your parents mention #1 and #2 in a song?

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/145 "2014-04-18T04:11:40Z")

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Been away for a few days–looks like I’ve missed a lot. Anyway, we’re on to M?

IQ1: Did you try to assassinate Gerald Ford in 1975?  
IQ2: Did you play Whitey Marsh in “Boys Town”?  
IQ3: Did you play Teri Garr’s boss in “Mr. Mom”?

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### Author: ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/146 "2014-04-18T04:40:09Z")

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IQ1: Are You Weasel?  
IQ2: Do you famously have a problem with making a decision between two options, having originally chosen from three?  
IQ3: Have you ever written a feature film known for prominent depictions of raccoon scrotums?

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/147 "2014-04-18T05:43:48Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Have you portrayed a Knight of the Round Table, a Roman prefect, and a passenger aboard the Titanic?  
> IQ2: Are you a fictional character who was named “Mortimer” until your creator’s wife convinced you to change the name?  
> IQ3: Are you a musician whose mother invented a type of correction fluid?

Not Michael Palin or Prof. Moriarty; dunno the third.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you observe that “they also serve who only stand and wait”?
> 2. Did you compose _Night on Bald Mountain_?
> 3. Were you a 12th Century Sephardic philosopher?

Dunno the first; not Mussogorsky (sp?) or Maimonides (sp?).

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you change your name because your guru said you’d do better if it started with an ‘R’?  
> IQ2: Were you and #1 just a-catchin’ fire?  
> IQ3: Did your parents mention #1 and #2 in a song?

Take three DQs.

> [@Spoons](#):
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> …  
> IQ1: Did you try to assassinate Gerald Ford in 1975?  
> IQ2: Did you play Whitey Marsh in “Boys Town”?  
> IQ3: Did you play Teri Garr’s boss in “Mr. Mom”?

I remember Squeaky Fromme but not the other lady; dunno the second either; not Michael Keaton.

> [@Roland\_Orzabal](#):
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> IQ1: Are You Weasel?  
> IQ2: Do you famously have a problem with making a decision between two options, having originally chosen from three?  
> IQ3: Have you ever written a feature film known for prominent depictions of raccoon scrotums?

Take three DQs.

M.

1. fictional
2. male

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/148 "2014-04-18T07:07:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I remember Squeaky Fromme but not the other lady; dunno the second either; not Michael Keaton.

Squeaky Fromme did try to assassinate President Ford, but the other wannabe-Ford-assassin was Sara Jane Moore.

Mickey Rooney played Whitey Marsh in “Boys Town.”

Michael Keaton did play Teri Garr’s _husband_ in “Mr. Mom,” but her _boss_ was played by Martin Mull.

DQ: Last name start with M?  
DQ: From a work of literature?

One DQ reserved.

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### Author: ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/149 "2014-04-18T07:10:22Z")

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IQ1 answer: Michael Dorn, voice of I.M. Weasel on “I Am Weasel”  
IQ2 answer: [Monty Hall](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem)  
IQ3 answer: Hiyao Miyakazi, screenwriter of Pom Poko (a.k.a. “the raccoon nuts movie”)

DQ1: Are you alive as of the end of your canon?  
DQ2: Could you conceivably have existed in the real world? (That is, you don’t have magical powers, or exist on a planet that isn’t Earth, etc.)  
DQ3: (Crap, original question ninja’d.) Is the fictional work that you come from of American origin?

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/150 "2014-04-18T10:54:31Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you change your name because your guru said you’d do better if it started with an ‘R’?  
> IQ2: Were you and #1 just a-catchin’ fire?  
> IQ3: Did your parents mention #1 and #2 in a song?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Take three DQs.

Roger (formerly Jim) McGuinn, of the Byrds.  
Barry McGuire, of the New Christy Minstrels.  
Mackenzie Phillips’s parents, John and Michelle, mentioned the two of them in “Creeque Alley.”  
_McGuinn and McGuire just a-catchin’ fire in LA, you know where that’s at…_  
DQs reserved pending answers to those already asked.

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/151 "2014-04-18T15:14:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you observe that “they also serve who only stand and wait”?
> 2. Did you compose Night on Bald Mountain?
> 3. Were you a 12th Century Sephardic philosopher?
> 
> Dunno the first; not Mussogorsky (sp?) or Maimonides (sp?).

Correct on Modest Mussorgsky and Moses Maimonides. #1 was John Milton in his sonnet _On His Blindness_.

DQ reserved.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/152 "2014-04-18T15:40:58Z")

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M.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with M
4. from a work of literature
5. alive as of the end of his canon
6. could conceivably (and easily) have existed in the real world
7. from a work of American origin

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/153 "2014-04-18T16:04:25Z")

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DQ: Created after 1900?

IQs:

1. Did you check in on a little girl at the end of the story to see if she survived the bump on her head?
2. Were you a possibly epileptic founding father?
3. Was your brother a singer/songwriter for the group The Scaffold?

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/154 "2014-04-18T17:05:52Z")

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Not Scarecrow (I forget his Kansan farmhand counterpart’s name), James Madison, dunno the third.

M.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with M
4. from a work of literature
5. alive as of the end of his canon
6. could conceivably (and easily) have existed in the real world
7. from a work of American origin
8. created after 1900

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### Author: ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/155 "2014-04-18T17:24:50Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Have you portrayed a Knight of the Round Table, a Roman prefect, and a passenger aboard the Titanic?  
> IQ2: Are you a fictional character who was named “Mortimer” until your creator’s wife convinced you to change the name?  
> IQ3: Are you a musician whose mother invented a type of correction fluid?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Michael Palin or Prof. Moriarty; dunno the third.

Correct on Michael Palin.  
I can neither confirm nor disprove Moriaty, so I’ll rephrase.  
#3 was Michael Nesmith of the Monkees, whose mother invented Liquid Paper.

DQ: Has any literary work in which you’ve appeared been adapted for the screen, either television or cinema?

IQ1: Are you an animated character who was named “Mortimer” until your creator’s wife convinced you to change the name?  
IQ2: Were you a travel companion of Casper and Balthazar?  
IQ3: Have you been portrayed by Humphrey Bogart, Elliot Gould and Robert Mitchum?

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/156 "2014-04-18T20:25:52Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you check in on a little girl at the end of the story to see if she survived the bump on her head?
> 2. Were you a possibly epileptic founding father?
> 3. Was your brother a singer/songwriter for the group The Scaffold?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Scarecrow (I forget his Kansan farmhand counterpart’s name), James Madison, dunno the third.

1. Not the Scarecrow: Prof. Marvel was the counterpart to the Wizard, both acted by Frank Morgan.
2. Madison’s correct.
3. Mike McGrew changed his name to McGrew so he couldn’t be accused of riding on his famous brother’s coattails, namely Paul McCartney.

Thinking of good DQs…

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/157 "2014-04-18T21:02:27Z")

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DQs:

1. Protagonist?
2. Created after 1960?

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/158 "2014-04-18T21:04:48Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the Beatles’ producer for most of their albums?
2. Did you star in _The Last Remake of Beau Geste_?
3. Were you a noted British art pottery designer?

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/159 "2014-04-19T02:18:06Z")

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DQ: From a genre, rather than from general fiction?  
Two DQs reserved.  
IQ1: Is your code name Eric?  
IQ2: Were you the head of the 5307th Composite Unit (Provisional)?  
IQ3: Did your friend Lothar wear a fez and a leopard skin?

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2014/685513/160 "2014-04-19T02:58:42Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> …  
> IQ1: Are you an animated character who was named “Mortimer” until your creator’s wife convinced you to change the name?  
> IQ2: Were you a travel companion of Casper and Balthazar?  
> IQ3: Have you been portrayed by Humphrey Bogart, Elliot Gould and Robert Mitchum?

Dunno the first; not Melchior or Philip Marlowe.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the Beatles’ producer for most of their albums?
> 2. Did you star in _The Last Remake of Beau Geste_?
> 3. Were you a noted British art pottery designer?

Not George Martin or Marty Feldman; dunno the third.

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> …  
> IQ1: Is your code name Eric?  
> IQ2: Were you the head of the 5307th Composite Unit (Provisional)?  
> IQ3: Did your friend Lothar wear a fez and a leopard skin?

Dunno any of these (although I have a hunch the second one pertains to the A-bombing B-29s at the end of WWII).

M.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name starts with M
4. from a work of literature
5. alive as of the end of his canon
6. could conceivably (and easily) have existed in the real world
7. from a work of American origin
8. created after 1900
9. literary work in which he appeared has been adapted for the screen, either television or cinema
10. protagonist (but not the only one)
11. created after 1960
12. from a genre, rather than from general fiction

As to the last, definitions vary and it’s kind of a close call, but I think this is the most accurate answer.

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