# Botticelli April 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 4, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845 "2015-04-04T23:29:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/281 "2015-04-20T20:29:25Z")

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Previous IQs:

A fictional character, did you give your name to a new brand of food in the past 30 years? - Dilbert: [Dilberito - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilberito)  
Did you do terrible things but remain handsome until you died? - Yes, Dorian Gray.  
Did your creator cry when he wrote of your death? - I’ll rephrase.

DQ:

Best known for dramatic roles?

IQs:

Before 1980, did your creator cry when he wrote of your death?  
Were you a monarch who wanted to get a spaceship for your planet?  
Are you an Italian woman often spoofed on SNL?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/282 "2015-04-20T20:42:31Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I am still not Olivia de Havilland.  
> Take DQs for 2 and 3.

Bette Davis, Marlene Deitrich

holding 5 DQs and pondering

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/283 "2015-04-20T20:43:54Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. American
4. Dead
5. Last Name starts with D
6. Died since 1950
7. Died before 2000
8. Known for the Arts
9. Known for the Performing Arts
10. Not known from TV
11. Best known as an actress
12. Never won an Oscar
13. Not a blonde
14. Occasionally a leading lady, but not always
15. Never nominated for an Oscar
16. Not best known for dramatic roles

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/284 "2015-04-20T20:48:01Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ1) Did you best known co-star claim (probably wrongly) that you were a brilliant sidekick precisely because you didn’t understand his humor at all?

Yes! I am indeed Margaret Dumont, best remembered as a foil for Groucho’s humor. And, yes, she did know what was going on.

Trivia notes: she was raised by her godfather, Joel Chandler Harris, author of the Uncle Remus stories; she was the widow of a millionaire, and did occasionally do dramatic parts, as well as comedic roles where she was a daffy airhead (think Billie Burke).

Well done yet again, astorian! Congrats.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/285 "2015-04-21T00:37:31Z")

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All right, **astorian**! Well done.

Previous IQs:

Before 1980, did your creator cry when he wrote of your death? - Little Dorrit, created by Charles Dickens (hey, another D!).  
Were you a monarch who wanted to get a spaceship for your planet? - The title character in Niven and Pournelle’s _King David’s Spaceship_.  
Are you an Italian woman often spoofed on SNL? - Donatella Versace.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/286 "2015-04-21T16:24:07Z")

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Margaret Dumont was probably the greatest “straight woman” ever. I actually considered using her months ago, so I’m glad someone else did.

Okay, I have one… P

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/287 "2015-04-21T16:43:51Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you marry Michael Jackson?
2. Were you aka Baron du Vallon de Bracieux de Pierrefonds?
3. Did you play Bluebottle and other characters on the BBC’s _The Goon Show_?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/288 "2015-04-21T17:21:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you marry Michael Jackson?
> 2. Were you aka Baron du Vallon de Bracieux de Pierrefonds?
> 3. Did you play Bluebottle and other characters on the BBC’s _The Goon Show_?

Not Lisa Marie Presley  
Not… Peter Sellers?

Take a DQ for #2 (and for 3 if Sellers is wrong).

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/289 "2015-04-21T17:22:45Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you marry Michael Jackson?
> 2. Were you aka Baron du Vallon de Bracieux de Pierrefonds?
> 3. Did you play Bluebottle and other characters on the BBC’s _The Goon Show_?

> [@astorian](#):
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> Not Lisa Marie Presley  
> Not… Peter Sellers?
> 
> Take a DQ for #2 (and for 3 if Sellers is wrong).

Correct on Lisa and Peter.  
#2 was Porthos, of the Three Musketeers.

DQ: Real?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/290 "2015-04-21T17:25:25Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you Gargantua’s son?
2. Are you Rick Riordan’s main protagonist?
3. Were you Candide’s teacher?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/291 "2015-04-21T18:04:23Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real person

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/292 "2015-04-21T19:07:18Z")

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IQs:

Did a political rival, to put you down in a debate, use your real first name?  
Did you date the same girl that Mick Jagger did?  
Were you JFK’s plump press secretary?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/293 "2015-04-21T20:17:40Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you Gargantua’s son?
> 2. Are you Rick Riordan’s main protagonist?
> 3. Were you Candide’s teacher?

Not Pantagruel, Percy Jackson or Pangloss

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/294 "2015-04-21T20:19:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did a political rival, to put you down in a debate, use your real first name?  
> Did you date the same girl that Mick Jagger did?  
> Were you JFK’s plump press secretary?

Not Pierre “Call Me Pete” DuPont  
Not Pierre Salinger

I don’t know #2, but since it has to be a Pierre… did Margaret Trudeau date Mick Jagger? I’ll say “Not Pierre Trudeau.”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/295 "2015-04-21T22:42:22Z")

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Correct on all three.

IQs:

1. Did you invent a machine that made people think they were upside down?
2. Were you John Hamilton’s best remembered role?
3. Did you rule over the lost Christian Nestorian nation?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/296 "2015-04-21T22:54:16Z")

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IQ1: Did you brothers step in to take your place in your latest movie after your death?  
IQ2: Are you a college football coach who got your nickname because you wrestled a bear when you were 13?  
IQ3: Were you lead singer for The Jam and The Style Council?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/297 "2015-04-22T03:27:31Z")

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Correct as to all three Pierres, but it was the future Bianca Jagger who dated Pierre Trudeau, IIRC.

IQs:

Were you First Speaker of the Second Foundation?  
Are you the best-known person to have been born on Corfu?  
Were you the trainer of heroes in ancient Greece?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/298 "2015-04-22T14:17:42Z")

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IQ1: Did you write “The Wedding Song (There is Love)”?  
IQ2: Were you that person’s partner?  
IQ3: Did you record “Hot Diggity (Dog Ziggity Boom)”?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/299 "2015-04-22T15:49:06Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Correct on all three.
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you invent a machine that made people think they were upside down?
> 2. Were you John Hamilton’s best remembered role?
> 3. Did you rule over the lost Christian Nestorian nation?

Not Professor Pepperwinkle from the 1950s Superman TV show!  
Not Perry WHite, from the same show!

Take a DQ for #3

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/300 "2015-04-22T15:50:16Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you brothers step in to take your place in your latest movie after your death?  
> IQ2: Are you a college football coach who got your nickname because you wrestled a bear when you were 13?  
> IQ3: Were you lead singer for The Jam and The Style Council?

Not Paul “Bear” Bryant or Paul Weller

Take a DQ for #1

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