# Botticelli April 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 4, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845 "2015-04-04T23:29:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/61 "2015-04-07T22:35:06Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the protagonist in _Stranger In A Strange Land_?
2. Were you the hostess for White House functions of the 8th U.S. President?
3. Were you a printmaker associated with the Nabis?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/62 "2015-04-07T23:28:10Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real person
2. Male
3. First name starts with V
4. Dead
5. Not American
6. European
7. Died after 2000
8. From the UK
9. Not involved in the arts as commonly defined, but there was an element of artistry in my profession
10. Not a political figure
11. Not involved in science or technology
12. Not best known for TV, but did have my own TV show at one time and did numerous TV commercials
13. Had a large business empire, though “businessman” may not be the first noun used to describe me
14. Not a criminal; my many business ventures were all completely legitimate

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/63 "2015-04-07T23:29:28Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the protagonist in _Stranger In A Strange Land_?
> 2. Were you the hostess for White House functions of the 8th U.S. President?
> 3. Were you a printmaker associated with the Nabis?

Take 3 DQs. (Wish I knew Martin Van Buren’s wife’s name!)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/64 "2015-04-08T00:23:43Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the protagonist in _Stranger In A Strange Land_?
> 2. Were you the hostess for White House functions of the 8th U.S. President?
> 3. Were you a printmaker associated with the Nabis?

> [@astorian](#):
>
> Take 3 DQs. (Wish I knew Martin Van Buren’s wife’s name!)

#1 was Valentine Michael Smith.  
#2 was Angelica Singleton Van Buren, Martin’s daughter-in-law. His wife Hannah died before he was elected.  
#3 was Edouard Vuillard.

3 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/65 "2015-04-08T01:27:23Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you refer to an older scientist as “Stinky”? - This was also Valentine Michael Smith; Dr. “Stinky” Mahmoud was on the crew of an Earth ship which visited Mars.  
Did you play the _Titanic_’s builder? - Yes, Victor Garber.  
Did your best-known character ruefully wonder why she was even eating that candy bar? - This was also Valerie Harper, playing Rhoda, who once looked at a candy bar and asked, “Why am I even eating this? I should just apply it directly to my hips.”

DQ:

Knighted?

IQs:

Were you a scruffy prophet, of sorts, in _Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell_?  
Did Picard meet you on Risa?  
Did you often date a guy with an alliterative name?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/66 "2015-04-08T02:45:05Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real person
2. Male
3. First name starts with V
4. Dead
5. Not American
6. European
7. Died after 2000
8. From the UK
9. Not involved in the arts as commonly defined, but there was an element of artistry in my profession
10. Not a political figure
11. Not involved in science or technology
12. Not best known for TV, but did have my own TV show at one time and did numerous TV commercials
13. Had a large business empire, though “businessman” may not be the first noun used to describe me
14. Not a criminal; my many business ventures were all completely legitimate
15. Was a Commander of the Order of the British Empire, if that counts as being knighted

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/67 "2015-04-08T02:48:01Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you a scruffy prophet, of sorts, in _Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell_?  
> Did Picard meet you on Risa?  
> Did you often date a guy with an alliterative name?

Take 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/68 "2015-04-08T11:42:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the 17th Earl of Oxford, an Elizabethan courtier nicknamed “The Italian Earl,” who some think actually wrote the plays of William Shakespeare?  
> IQ2: Were you the bassist for the Sex Pistols?  
> IQ3: Did you have a radio show during WWII called Sincerely Yours, where you sang songs for soldiers overseas such as “We’ll Meet Again” and “The White Cliffs of Dover”?
> 
> Not Edward de Vere or Sid Vicious  
> DQ for #3 (I know it’s Vera something…)

Vera Lynn

DQ: Is a product or service named for you?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/69 "2015-04-08T13:13:46Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real person
2. Male
3. First name starts with V
4. Dead
5. Not American
6. European
7. Died after 2000
8. From the UK
9. Not involved in the arts as commonly defined, but there was an element of artistry in my profession
10. Not a political figure
11. Not involved in science or technology
12. Not best known for TV, but did have my own TV show at one time and did numerous TV commercials
13. Had a large business empire, though “businessman” may not be the first noun used to describe me
14. Not a criminal; my many business ventures were all completely legitimate
15. Was a Commander of the Order of the British Empire, if that counts as being knighted
16. Had a line of products named after me

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/70 "2015-04-08T14:18:00Z")

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DQs:

1. Common first name?
2. Known for sports?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/71 "2015-04-08T15:32:29Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a scruffy prophet, of sorts, in _Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell_? - Vinculus  
Did Picard meet you on Risa? - Vash  
Did you often date a guy with an alliterative name? - Veronica Lodge and Archie Andrews

Three DQs reserved.

I think I’ve got it:

IQ:

Were you best known as a master hairdresser and for selling haircare products?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/72 "2015-04-08T15:41:41Z")

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**Edit:** Dammit - ninja’d by EH!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/73 "2015-04-08T16:47:03Z")

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Oh, that’s a good guess!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/74 "2015-04-08T17:41:50Z")

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Grats ahead of time, EH. 🙂

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/75 "2015-04-08T18:53:57Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real person
2. Male
3. First name starts with V
4. Dead
5. Not American
6. European
7. Died after 2000
8. From the UK
9. Not involved in the arts as commonly defined, but there was an element of artistry in my profession
10. Not a political figure
11. Not involved in science or technology
12. Not best known for TV, but did have my own TV show at one time and did numerous TV commercials
13. Had a large business empire, though “businessman” may not be the first noun used to describe me
14. Not a criminal; my many business ventures were all completely legitimate
15. Was a Commander of the Order of the British Empire, if that counts as being knighted
16. Had a line of products named after me
17. Not involved in sports
18. Very uncommon first name

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/76 "2015-04-08T18:56:16Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Previous IQs:
> 
> Were you a scruffy prophet, of sorts, in _Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell_? - Vinculus  
> Did Picard meet you on Risa? - Vash  
> Did you often date a guy with an alliterative name? - Veronica Lodge and Archie Andrews
> 
> Three DQs reserved.
> 
> I think I’ve got it:
> 
> IQ:
> 
> Were you best known as a master hairdresser and for selling haircare products?

YESSSSSS! I am\*\* VIDAL SASSOON\*\*, hairdresser to the stars (which, I think you’ll agree, is a profession requiring some artistry) in the 1960s, and later a manufacturer of stylish blue jeans and hair care products. My motto was, “If you don’t look good, WE don’t look good.”

(I thought of him because Mrs. Astorian’s longtime hairdresser is an Englishman who trained under Vidal Sassoon.)

Congrats, Elendil.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/77 "2015-04-08T20:14:13Z")

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Thanks, everyone! Our next letter is

G

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/78 "2015-04-08T21:22:26Z")

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IQ1) Were you the original lead singer of King Crimson?  
IQ2) Did you create Della Street and Lieutenant Arthur Tragg?  
IQ3) Are you the strongest of the Dinobots?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/79 "2015-04-08T22:24:13Z")

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IQ1: Did you compose _Rhapsody in Blue_ and _An American in Paris_?  
IQ2: Are you IQ1’s brother and composer of _Someone to Watch Over Me_?  
IQ3: Are you the co-writer of _Pirates of Penzance_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2015/716845/80 "2015-04-08T22:37:39Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you called the New Cincinnatus?
2. Were you an American folk artist who started painting at the age of 78?
3. Were you Saul of Tarsus’s rabbi?

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